Quote: U.S. Marine has admitted drowning transgender woman in the toilet after he found out she was born a man, claim prosecutors

Prosecutor Emilie de los Santos said there was 'probable cause' that Marine Pfc. Joseph Scott Pemberton killed Jennifer Laude
Witnesses saw Pemberton check in with Laude at a motel room, where he was seen leaving shortly before the discovery of the killing
'I think I killed a he/she,' Pemberton was quoted as having told a fellow Marine



It's murder,' de los Santos told reporters after filing the charge against the 19-year-old Pemberton before a regional court. 'It was aggravated by treachery, abuse of superior strength and cruelty.'

Among the evidence submitted by de los Santos and other prosecutors were statements by Pemberton's three Marine colleagues who went bar-hopping with him on Oct. 11 in Olongapo, a former liberty town when the U.S. Navy was at the vast Subic Naval base, now a bustling commercial Freeport and recreation hub.

Pemberton and some of his colleagues later picked up women at a disco bar and separately checked in at nearby motels, then returned to their ship after midnight.

Witnesses saw Pemberton check in with Laude at a motel room, where he was seen leaving shortly before the discovery of the killing, prosecutors said in their statement to the court.

Marine Lance Corporal Jairn Michael Rose, who went out with Pemberton that night, acknowledged that the suspect later confided back at their ship that he attacked the woman he was with by choking her after discovering that she was a transgender when she undressed, according to the prosecutors.

'I think I killed a he/she,' Pemberton was quoted as having told Rose.

Pemberton, a skilled boxer, allegedly said he choked her from behind with his arm 'for a couple of minutes' until she stopped moving then dragged her into the bathroom, according to the prosecutors.

The new details are likely to spark renewed condemnation by left-wing and transgender groups, which have labeled the attack a hate crime.

The case comes after the Philippines and the United States strengthened ties with the recent signing of a defense accord that allows greater U.S. access to Philippine military camps.

The accord will help Washington's bid to reassert its presence in Asia, and enable Manila to deter what it calls China's aggressive moves to reinforce its claims in disputed South China Sea territories.

The case reignited a debate over custody of American military personnel accused of crimes.

But the looming irritant between the treaty allies over Pemberton's custody was eased after Washington agreed to move him from a U.S. warship to the Philippine military's main camp in metropolitan Manila, where he remained under American custody with an outer ring of Filipino guards.

The Philippine government said in a statement issued by its foreign affairs department that it looks 'forward to the full cooperation of the U.S. government in ensuring that justice is secured for Laude.'

Harry Roque, the lawyer of Laude's family, welcomed the prosecutors' ruling and angrily demanded that Pemberton be thrown into an ordinary jail.

The marine and victim in question

What is it with all these threads recently?
I think there should be a rvf game called spot the ladyboy.

Fuck!! honestly i would have made the same mistake as this man(the tranny looks quite convincing) but i would probably vomit in the toilet for being disgusted with myself instead of killing the conman/conwoman/con-IDK.

Gentleman what do you think about this idea:
An app that helps you identify a tranny.

Why do transgendered people think it's okay to deceive someone like this?

(12-16-2014 07:13 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  Why do transgendered people think it's okay to deceive someone like this?

"Because it's all about what's on the inside that really counts. Why should it matter that I have a penis???"



I agree with an app that would help spot a ladyboy. You take a picture and spits out a recording:

Analysis:
87% chance that protrusion on neck is an Adam's apple.
83% chance that pelvic bulge is a penis
74% chance that boobs are faked, non natural

Prognosis:

The marketing for this app will be a bit pc.

The app will tell you if you have more masculine features or more feminine features.

But only those in the brotherhood of rvf will know its true purpose.

Now if we can only find someone to make this app because i don't know how to code yet.

"it" looks bootleg as fuck. Look dudes gotta be aware of shit but sometimes you wonder if dudes knowingly like to test fate. This dude had to of known, that tranny looks goofy as fuck. The hands and proportions are way out of wack and the trannys face is all fucked up. Now I don't know the Philippines that well, but I do know Flip people like crazy and the broads never look that rugged and manly, even the stumpy ones.

[img]cdn2.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/jennifer-laude-sueselbeck/jennifer-laude-sueselbeck-33.jpg[/img]

[img]cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Transgender-patay-US-Marine-iniimbestigahan-YouTube-665x385.png[/img]

[img]pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz3Mp-xCQAACqas.jpg[/img]

Very convincing? How so...

Look at those hands. The hands will always be a fudemental give away. Man hands are forever man hands.

Don't get duped by a processed photo at a angle. Look at that thing for what it is. It is way to obvious. If you google photos of the "Jennifer Laude" you can see it was well known as it is photographed with other men and shit.

The story seems like a case of extreme buyers remorse more then some dude waking up to tranny. Dudde had to of known and just snapped when he couldn't handle it anymore.

Dude is a loser and deserves whatever comes at him. The tranny is a loser too. Likely how they found each other.

(12-16-2014 07:13 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  Why do transgendered people think it's okay to deceive someone like this?

They can always say, "I thought you knew!"

This is OLD NEWS!!! This happend back in October and was reported on Philippine TV pretty much 24/7 for at least two weeks. Jennifer's "fiancee," a German guy, later attempted to storm a military prison in Quezon City to "confront" the murderer. This led to a big scandal with him having his visa revoked.
Can't believe you missed this...

Most ladyboys are mentally ill as a general rule. They live a lie and do mental gymnastics everyday to justify their own existence. It's obvious when you look at the suicide stats that they are some seriously fucked up people. If a person is this delusional then simply not telling random hookups what they are is way down on the list of violated moral/ethical personal boundaries.

This marine was pretty dumb though. He should have just kicked the shit out of it instead of murdering it. Now he's in a shitload of trouble and i'm not even sure the military will be able to save him for what's about to come. He'll do hard time for sure.

(12-16-2014 07:13 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  Why do transgendered people think it's okay to deceive someone like this?

Because they are mentally ill.

Trannies get killed all the time.

There are "techniques" on how to dump ladyboys out there in the Manosphere and sex-tourism sites for a reason. They are psycho. I have read some of the stories expats have posted about their relationships with these and they are almost always cringe worthy. There are even some websites out there that have photos and rap sheets for "bad ladyboys" (like Escort services customer reviews) with warning reports like:

1. She tried to stab me

2. Will try to steal your money.

3. Screamed and cried in the bathroom the whole night.

4. Be careful brothers, some nights she is okay, some nights she is crazy as hell.

5. She was unshaven and tried to fight me when I met her at her door.

I read these stories for hours because they were so captivating and strange. This is just a small sample of the worst ones.

Alot of these ladyboys use Estrogen and other hormones to soften their features (like their adam's apple) and lactate milk from their breasts. As a result, they can become extremely unbalanced mentally. Guys that hunt for ladyboys in Thailand and the PI have all had at least one funky situation or so and will tell you that it can be somewhat dangerous. Now you all know why.

This happened on a drunken club night. He is not supposed to look for little clues like big hands, fake boobs etc. Neither are we. The name of the game isn't supposed to be 'Screen out the fake women'. This is just sad. Now we are to compete and win against the rapidly-accelerating plastic surgery science that aims to make trannies look as real as possible. Pretty soon they will be impossible to distinguish. None of us are safe until trannies are charged with sexual assault for not disclosing their gender before any sexual advance.

On the other hand, they don't disclose it because most men they encounter don't care about it. I bet she was even surprised by this marine's reaction, asking like ''Hey what's wrong?'' while her dick was swinging under her skirt. (I use ''her'' to avoid confusion) For every healthy, honorable man like this marine, there are 10 sick weirdos out there who are willing to fuck a hot woman with penis.

(12-16-2014 08:03 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  This happened on a drunken club night. He is not supposed to look for little clues like big hands, fake boobs etc. Neither are we. The name of the game isn't supposed to be 'Screen out the fake women'. This is just sad. Now we are to compete and win against the rapidly-accelerating plastic surgery science that aims to make trannies look as real as possible. Pretty soon they will be impossible to distinguish. None of us are safe until trannies are charged with sexual assault for not disclosing their gender before any sexual advance.

On the other hand, they don't disclose it because most men they encounter don't care about it. I bet she was even surprised by this marine's reaction, asking like ''Hey what's wrong?'' while her dick was swinging under her skirt. (I use ''her'' to avoid confusion) For every healthy, honorable man like this marine, there are 10 sick weirdos out there who are willing to fuck a hot woman with penis.

There is nothing honorable about this Marine. He is a moron. You don't kill a person just because they tricked you. That is a serious lack of judgement and self control. He should have laughed it out, took that L, and told her bye bye and left. If you get tricked like that, let it go. Sex acts with a ladyboy won't kill you.

Guys have to learn how to lose. We cannot always win every situation in life in ever regard. Handling defeat admirably will take you to the next level, so that the next time it happens, you can prevent it easily. Him killing her over that tells me alot more about his thirst, his immaturity, sense of entitlement, and his lack of humility. Being a tranny never justifies murder, let's keep shit in perspective.

Damn right Kai.

Ridiculous over-reaction.

Yeah, I almost fell for one very good LB but my sense were off. Good loking asian who acts like a nympho? Ding ding ding!

Not once did it figure in my mind to kill them. Only sick fucks with mental issues would do such a thing. He deserves prison time. A perfect example of some guy with mental issues being trained as a killer.

I have to admit that this "woman" looks fairly convincing. Judging just from this picture, I would have also been fooled up to the moment of truth.

That said, while it's ridiculous and wrong for a transsexual person to go around deceiving people, only a massive psychopath would react to that with murder. This guy deserves whatever harsh punishment is coming his way (I'm guessing dishonorable discharge plus 20+ years in prison). I hope the military doesn't decide to save face by sheltering him and giving him a slap on the wrist.

(12-16-2014 08:40 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I have to admit that this "woman" looks fairly convincing. Judging just from this picture, I would have also been fooled up to the moment of truth.

That said, while it's ridiculous and wrong for a transsexual person to go around deceiving people, only a massive psychopath would react to that with murder. This guy deserves whatever harsh punishment is coming his way (I'm guessing dishonorable discharge plus 20+ years in prison). I hope the military doesn't decide to save face by sheltering him and giving him a slap on the wrist.

If you side with the feminists on "rape" by deception, then this ladyboy was attempting to rape Pemberton. I hope he argues self-defense.

I think he knew, was into it, and then killed him/her/it out of shame/conflict. I doubt he made an honest mistake on a single ladyboy (but it's somewhat possible I'll acknowledge), but to pick up two at the same time and not have any idea? Bullshit. He went to a tranny bar.

Quote:"According to local authorities, Pemberton was on shore leave in Olongapo City, about an hour from Manila, when he took Laude and another transgender woman named Barbie to a motel."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...woman.html

(12-16-2014 08:19 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:03 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  This happened on a drunken club night. He is not supposed to look for little clues like big hands, fake boobs etc. Neither are we. The name of the game isn't supposed to be 'Screen out the fake women'. This is just sad. Now we are to compete and win against the rapidly-accelerating plastic surgery science that aims to make trannies look as real as possible. Pretty soon they will be impossible to distinguish. None of us are safe until trannies are charged with sexual assault for not disclosing their gender before any sexual advance.

On the other hand, they don't disclose it because most men they encounter don't care about it. I bet she was even surprised by this marine's reaction, asking like ''Hey what's wrong?'' while her dick was swinging under her skirt. (I use ''her'' to avoid confusion) For every healthy, honorable man like this marine, there are 10 sick weirdos out there who are willing to fuck a hot woman with penis.

There is nothing honorable about this Marine. He is a moron. You don't kill a person just because they tricked you. That is a serious lack of judgement and self control. He should have laughed it out, took that L, and told her bye bye and left. If you get tricked like that, let it go. Sex acts with a ladyboy won't kill you.

Guys have to learn how to lose. We cannot always win every situation in life in ever regard. Handling defeat admirably will take you to the next level, so that the next time it happens, you can prevent it easily. Him killing her over that tells me alot more about his thirst, his immaturity, sense of entitlement, and his lack of humility. Being a tranny never justifies murder, let's keep shit in perspective.

I'm shaking my head in disappointment by this reaction.


You have a wrong image about how this interaction went down.

Quote:He should have laughed it out, took that L, and told her bye bye and left. If you get tricked like that, let it go. Sex acts with a ladyboy won't kill you.

As if he got tricked by a salesman or got Big Mac with extra pickles when he ordered with no pickles. He met a woman in the club, made out, brought her to his hotel room, made out some more, got naked and suddenly he felt a dick where there was supposed to be a wet pussy. This is how it probably went down:




He did NOT consent to kiss a guy. He did NOT consent to get naked with a guy. He did NOT invite a guy to his hotel room. This is not some harmless form of trickery. This is the most despicable form of fraud. She tried to get a healthy heterosexual male to fuck her by pretending to be a woman when she had a swinging dick. She tricked a heterosexual male into crossing the line to homosexuality. She tricked a NORMAL MAN to change his sexual preference for a night without knowing. You think this doesn't justify murder? This is raping a heterosexual male. This is no different than prison rape. If some tranny raped you in the ass, would you be peaceful and try to punish her in a court of law? You would just

Quote:learn how to lose

?How dare you advocate a tranny who conned a man into making love with her? How dare you soften this subject by talking about handling defeat in life and learning to take it easy? What sort of political agenda are you trying to run here?

Another reason I am a fan of big real boobs.

Our Platoon Sergeant always used to tell us to make sure we grab checked girls before taking them home. I'm not kidding.

The kind of kids that join the military need a lot guidance and good red pill leadership, but with a more feminized military they don't get it because leaders can't stand in front of a formation and talk about how to grab check, where to pick up girls, how to use craigslist safely, share a hotel room to save money because it doesn't matter if you rail out chicks in the same room as your buddy, etc.

(12-16-2014 09:13 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:19 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:03 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  This happened on a drunken club night. He is not supposed to look for little clues like big hands, fake boobs etc. Neither are we. The name of the game isn't supposed to be 'Screen out the fake women'. This is just sad. Now we are to compete and win against the rapidly-accelerating plastic surgery science that aims to make trannies look as real as possible. Pretty soon they will be impossible to distinguish. None of us are safe until trannies are charged with sexual assault for not disclosing their gender before any sexual advance.

On the other hand, they don't disclose it because most men they encounter don't care about it. I bet she was even surprised by this marine's reaction, asking like ''Hey what's wrong?'' while her dick was swinging under her skirt. (I use ''her'' to avoid confusion) For every healthy, honorable man like this marine, there are 10 sick weirdos out there who are willing to fuck a hot woman with penis.

There is nothing honorable about this Marine. He is a moron. You don't kill a person just because they tricked you. That is a serious lack of judgement and self control. He should have laughed it out, took that L, and told her bye bye and left. If you get tricked like that, let it go. Sex acts with a ladyboy won't kill you.

Guys have to learn how to lose. We cannot always win every situation in life in ever regard. Handling defeat admirably will take you to the next level, so that the next time it happens, you can prevent it easily. Him killing her over that tells me alot more about his thirst, his immaturity, sense of entitlement, and his lack of humility. Being a tranny never justifies murder, let's keep shit in perspective.

I'm shaking my head in disappointment by this reaction.
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You have a wrong image about how this interaction went down.

Quote:He should have laughed it out, took that L, and told her bye bye and left. If you get tricked like that, let it go. Sex acts with a ladyboy won't kill you.

As if he got tricked by a salesman or got Big Mac with extra pickles when he ordered with no pickles. He met a woman in the club, made out, brought her to his hotel room, made out some more, got naked and suddenly he felt a dick where there was supposed to be a wet pussy. This is how it probably went down:

He did NOT consent to kiss a guy. He did NOT consent to get naked with a guy. He did NOT invite a guy to his hotel room. This is not some harmless form of trickery. This is the most despicable form of fraud. She tried to get a healthy heterosexual male to fuck her by pretending to be a woman when she had a swinging dick. She tricked a heterosexual male into crossing the line to homosexuality. She tricked a NORMAL MAN to change his sexual preference for a night without knowing. You think this doesn't justify murder? This is raping a heterosexual male. This is no different than prison rape. If some tranny raped you in the ass, would you be peaceful and try to punish her in a court of law? You would just

Quote:learn how to lose

?How dare you advocate a tranny who conned a man into making love with her? How dare you soften this subject by talking about handling defeat in life and learning to take it easy? What sort of political agenda are you trying to run here?

Doesn't matter how he was tricked. We do not advocate murder or violence on this forum. Roosh has made this very clear time and time again. He insta-banned a guy who laughed at a girl losing her eyesight and he banned another guy for advocating the beating of women.

We are not monsters in here. You need to back off this position before you lose complete respect from the others or worse, get banned yourself. This was not a self defense situation and his life was not at risk. Blatant murder can never be justified. Your support of this guy is what gives our enemies fuel to make us look like misogynistic monsters.

(12-16-2014 06:37 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  

Quote: U.S. Marine has admitted drowning transgender woman in the toilet after he found out she was born a man, claim prosecutors

Prosecutor Emilie de los Santos said there was 'probable cause' that Marine Pfc. Joseph Scott Pemberton killed Jennifer Laude
Witnesses saw Pemberton check in with Laude at a motel room, where he was seen leaving shortly before the discovery of the killing
'I think I killed a he/she,' Pemberton was quoted as having told a fellow Marine



It's murder,' de los Santos told reporters after filing the charge against the 19-year-old Pemberton before a regional court. 'It was aggravated by treachery, abuse of superior strength and cruelty.'

Among the evidence submitted by de los Santos and other prosecutors were statements by Pemberton's three Marine colleagues who went bar-hopping with him on Oct. 11 in Olongapo, a former liberty town when the U.S. Navy was at the vast Subic Naval base, now a bustling commercial Freeport and recreation hub.

Pemberton and some of his colleagues later picked up women at a disco bar and separately checked in at nearby motels, then returned to their ship after midnight.

Witnesses saw Pemberton check in with Laude at a motel room, where he was seen leaving shortly before the discovery of the killing, prosecutors said in their statement to the court.

Marine Lance Corporal Jairn Michael Rose, who went out with Pemberton that night, acknowledged that the suspect later confided back at their ship that he attacked the woman he was with by choking her after discovering that she was a transgender when she undressed, according to the prosecutors.

'I think I killed a he/she,' Pemberton was quoted as having told Rose.

Pemberton, a skilled boxer, allegedly said he choked her from behind with his arm 'for a couple of minutes' until she stopped moving then dragged her into the bathroom, according to the prosecutors.

The new details are likely to spark renewed condemnation by left-wing and transgender groups, which have labeled the attack a hate crime.

The case comes after the Philippines and the United States strengthened ties with the recent signing of a defense accord that allows greater U.S. access to Philippine military camps.

The accord will help Washington's bid to reassert its presence in Asia, and enable Manila to deter what it calls China's aggressive moves to reinforce its claims in disputed South China Sea territories.

The case reignited a debate over custody of American military personnel accused of crimes.

But the looming irritant between the treaty allies over Pemberton's custody was eased after Washington agreed to move him from a U.S. warship to the Philippine military's main camp in metropolitan Manila, where he remained under American custody with an outer ring of Filipino guards.

The Philippine government said in a statement issued by its foreign affairs department that it looks 'forward to the full cooperation of the U.S. government in ensuring that justice is secured for Laude.'

Harry Roque, the lawyer of Laude's family, welcomed the prosecutors' ruling and angrily demanded that Pemberton be thrown into an ordinary jail.

The marine and victim in question

This is why you escalate quickly and always reach for the moist bits early-on.

Also, a good reason to stick to short, younger girls. I don't think I've ever seen a (non-asian) short tranny. They all seem to be tall.

That would be awful, though, if you were going for a slump-buster and it's packing full gear. I like to think that I wouldn't be rattled too much after such an experience, but take sex away for a long time, for a really long dry spell, and I don't know. I'd definitely try to find a really feminine girl to take down immediately.

(12-16-2014 09:25 AM)General Mayhem Wrote:  Our Platoon Sergeant always used to tell us to make sure we grab checked girls before taking them home. I'm not kidding.

The kind of kids that join the military need a lot guidance and good red pill leadership, but with a more feminized military they don't get it because leaders can't stand in front of a formation and talk about how to grab check, where to pick up girls, how to use craigslist safely, share a hotel room to save money because it doesn't matter if you rail out chicks in the same room as your buddy, etc.

A grab-check. Brilliant.