Post: #26

(12-16-2014 02:10 AM)anal? Wrote:  I guess the below 5 cocks talk is not based on girls living in the US?. As OGN said,you are lucky to find a chick here in America between the 6-8 range who went to college away from home,has lived alone post college and ofcourse gone through a slutty phase which i consider 18-22 to have had a notch count below 15 cocks. Let's not forget the miss butter face 5 with the banging body and a face you'll just like keep hidden beneath the pillow and bang along.This chick because of her insecurity,addiction to facebook,has had a POF and Okstupid account for 5years and is logged on daily,has a slight drinking and drug problem would bang any dick within a 5mile radius of her vagina for validation.

Then we have the 8s and 9s who has 3200 friends on facebook,has 120 likes from each dumb post from her obiters.Has been in a few threesomes and has played with the cocks of a few alpha dudes from most of the popular dudes on a few of the fraternities on campus.Then there are those trips she went to Africa or the Caribbeans for "charity",which she promptly banged a local or two. Then we take into account a few of the alpha dudes always suited down who she though she would lock down for marriage but ended getting her heart broken.

So as a wise man once said here,the average American chick has had more dick in her than Michael Jordan can dunk on if put together.So yea i'd say 10-15 dicks is the best we can hope for a 28 year old American.In closing,you my sweet 28year old darling is not suitable for a LTR and will just be used for your cum dumping responsibilities.

98% of the time, yes.

Post: #27

(12-16-2014 05:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The n-number is only of comparative approximately useful value.

Of course after some number in the high double digits I don't expect anything good coming from a girl, because her threshold is just too low and she did not make any effort to be in a LTR in her prime. When a 28 year old has had 20+ men, she would have to be a veritable angel and a 8-9 to make it up.

But on the other hand I've had girls who have had n-counts of 5, who were nuts. One recently was cute, very innocent, sex was completely new to her and her n-count was 1 (one boyfriend), since she really did not know what to do with a dick and she grew up very catholic. But that very girl is still crazy in so many emotional aspects that one would be crazy to marry her - never mind if she can be faithful.

A girl can be bat-shit crazy after just one guy or even while being a pent-up virgin, who marries you, but then lets loose after the wedding fucking everyone willy nilly, because she had all this feminist slut-walk energy inside her. Plenty of traditional Christian guys have stories like that. The old virgin = stable marriage meme does not work so well, because women are encouraged to "explore their sexuality" and to sample a wide assortment of bad boys, bikers, ex-cons, porn-stars etc. A virginal bride will feel that she missed out on something and will cheat on you. In the past there was the entire chaste society and shaming mechanism in place that kept the female sexuality in check. Now all bets are off.

My personal take:

The number is a guideline and important, but not absolute. If she is 21, super-hot and came to her senses in her fucking prime and decides to be a good girl after banging 15 dudes between 15 to 20, but realizes AT THE PRIME AGE OF 21, that this does not make her happy, then I would take such a girl. I actually met one such girl in Gdansk, Poland in a club. She told me that she was recently engaged to a catholic youth leader and they are getting married in 6 months. She was a high 8 and I could sense that she had been slutting around before. But then she talked 20 minutes about the bible and it all made sense. Most girls have an epiphany at ages of 27-33 - their "realizations" then are useless. If she reached the same level at 21, I would take her, if I were interested in long bible-talks interrupted by deep dicking with a smoking hot 21 year old.

Just as with everything in life, there are no absolutes - use your head & your gut instinct - intuition to the best of your Red PIll awareness.

Lots of common sense and truth written here. Things like this need a case-by-case analysis. But personally, I can't see myself getting serious with a chick of an N = 15. If she was young and THAT gorgeous, MAYBE a mini-relationship. But for a LTR or marriage/kids, disqualified. 15 cocks is going to equal baggage/drama of some sort. Not interested.

The N is not the factor in assessing a woman's worth, but it's a pretty important one. And there's no way around it - a person's history is a useful tool on how a they will act/behave/perform in the present and in the future.

Post: #28

(12-16-2014 04:52 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 04:03 AM)peterthephoenix Wrote:  Hah you really believe those stats?

Good luck finding a girl close to 25 who has taken less than 3 dicks. Especially the hot ones. There's a few who held on to it for boyfriends only, or they got into something long term and just got out of it. But I'm thinking I don't want a girl who spent 4-8 years with a guy, too much bonding.

In Asia you can easily find girls who have had less than 3 cocks. The girls tend to fall into two extremes there. You get the minority of mega whores who will sleep with random guys at the club, every tourist cock, online cock, etc..

You will also have many more traditional minded and sexually conservative good girls looking for stable relationships.

It's like the polar opposite in the west where most women act and look like whores and there's only a small minority of actual good girls.

This thread is a bit depressing because it seems a lot of guys have never been exposed to a culture with actual decent women. Girls who have taken loads of cocks like in the anglosphere is not a normal thing in many countries.

Thanks I forgot to check this thread again. You said it perfectly. Well said my man.

Post: #29

just judge how they behave when with you. you're not the first and you wont be the last.

and if you're going to LTR them, wait a year before you do that.

Post: #30

More than 5 and less than 10.

I think some of us have to be realistic and not to be a hypocrite. We want high numbers but want to get serious with a girl that has only "3" partners.

If she is half attractive she will get approached constantly. Men will do all sort of things to get with a girl.

Post: #31

(12-17-2014 12:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  More than 5 and less than 10.

I think some of us have to be realistic and not to be a hypocrite. We want high numbers but want to get serious with a girl that has only "3" partners.

If she is half attractive she will get approached constantly. Men will do all sort of things to get with a girl.

That's why in the past you had the wide majority of low-n counts of wives versus the small number of whores, mistresses and sluts. Most men had to pay to get some side pussy.

Women have eliminated that effectively.

Post: #32

(12-17-2014 12:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  More than 5 and less than 10.

I think some of us have to be realistic and not to be a hypocrite. We want high numbers but want to get serious with a girl that has only "3" partners.

If she is half attractive she will get approached constantly. Men will do all sort of things to get with a girl.

Context counts

Are you in the US?
The West?
How old are you?
How old is she?
Education level?
Upbringing?
Religion?
Attractiveness?
Naivete?
Body issues?

You got guys in the Red Flag post talk about not doing anal is a deal breaker.

A chick who's only been with 2 other guys is probably not gonna let you assault her shitter.

A virgin will gag when she tries to swallow your load.

A lot of these young chicks have very unreal expectations of relationships.

Guys will want what they want, but experience has taught me a lot about inexperienced chicks.

WIA

Post: #33

According to various studies, girls of a conservative leaning have 1 or 2 sexual partners by age 23.

These girls also have less emotional baggage.

Therefore, if you're in the US, and want a girl with less emotional baggage and whose not been on the cock carousel, go for college-aged girls of conservative leanings in the US.

If you want a long-term match, you need to think about your personality type, its weaknesses and strength and find a girl who complements you in areas where you're weak and who is naturally drawn to your temperament.

Post: #34

At 28 anything under 10 would be fine by me. However if I were specifically pursuing a girl for marriage, kids, kinky sex, or icecream she would have to be about 10 years younger then 28.

I banged some virgins and girls with super low notch counts in Asia... so if its really that big of a deal to you to find a girl with a low notch count then catching the yellar fever and heading to Asia is always a option.

Post: #35

I need a slut to be a slut. I'm the post-doc university of slutdom. if a chick hasn't gone thru slut elementary, middle, high school, college and grad school - she isn't going to be the kind of slut i need.

i've accepted this lately.

I need a slutty girl. A real slut. A take it in the ass and smile slut. A love it when I shove her head down between my legs slut, a go out and find us a third slut.

Low count chicks don't usually cut it for me.

Post: #36

"Love as a kind of innocence and as a capacity for illusion, as an aptitude for epitomizing the whole of the other sex in a single loved being rarely resists a year of sexual immorality, and never two. In reality the successive sexual experiences accumulated during adolescence undermine and rapidly destroy all possibility of projection of an emotional and romantic sort; progressively, and in fact extremely quickly, one becomes as capable of love as an old slag." -Houellebecq

Sluts are great, etc., but I think the above is true.

Post: #37

I think that a "normal" number would be something around 1 for every year of adult life.

It is a bit silly to focus on something as simple as a number, but also my absolute max is pretty much N=6.