Post: #76

(12-21-2014 10:19 AM)IvanDrago Wrote:  The Christmas Special is on YouTube, I watched it this morning just to spite monster. I even laughed a few times!

That was good and I did not see the surprise ending coming.

Post: #77

Netflix has picked it up.

New season coming up.

Here is the trailer

Post: #78

Season 3 is coming out on the 20th.

Post: #79

Saw the series. I do it while working on less mentally consuming things.

Either way - it is excellent - bigger budget than before and better writing.

It has of course the usual predictive programming with plenty of propaganda embedded, but it tells you well where the elite is going with the world.

As usual the makers are highly versed and initiated:

Quote:1 "Nosedive" Joe Wright Story by : Charlie Brooker
Teleplay by : Rashida Jones & Mike Schur 21 October 2016
Starring: Bryce Dallas Howard, Alice Eve, James Norton and Cherry Jones
9 2 "Playtest" Dan Trachtenberg Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016
Starring: Wyatt Russell, Hannah John-Kamen, Wunmi Mosaku and Ken Yamamura
10 3 "Shut Up and Dance" James Watkins Charlie Brooker & William Bridges 21 October 2016
Starring: Alex Lawther & Jerome Flynn
11 4 "San Junipero" Owen Harris Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016
Starring: Gugu Mbatha-Raw & Mackenzie Davis
12 5 "Men Against Fire" Jakob Verbruggen Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016
Starring: Malachi Kirby, Michael Kelly, Madeline Brewer & Sarah Snook
13 6 "Hated in the Nation" James Hawes Charlie Brooker 21 October 2016

The entire series has the conventional talking points of diversity, gay marriage, gay weddings and social media top-down control embedded in it, but the main points of each show are interesting and very telling:


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1) Social media control where everyone can rate anyone and the ones with the highest social media scores win the game getting perks, prices and better jobs. This is already being implemented in China! The people get negative scores for being non-PC or even associating with non-PC people online or real life!

2) There are many memes about euthanasia, about brutally applied eugenics. Euthanasia should go hand in hand with a transcendence to a perfect virtual reality. That is one big theme of the elite supposedly, but I seriously doubt this will pan out. Super-intelligent family inbreeding did not work for them as they attempted to in the 19th century - the big guys are sometimes wrong on certain things. Of course maybe they will be able to convince a few blokes to 'upload' themselves online and then let themselves be killed. But if you are dumb enough to fall for it, then you deserve to be killed.

3) There is one example of advanced implant-brain conditioning where soldiers in wars will see the target - even if harmless women and children - as terrible screeching monsters and can pull the trigger easily. Dehumanizing the enemy not only via past propaganda, but via life-gaming style alteration of reality.

4) You also get a glimpse into modern warfare technology and one big reason why I never ever fear a global caliphate. You see in one episode what self-reproducing tiny military-grade bots can do against a WWII-style military - essentially you can have billions of them produced and swarm out against even one billion soldiers. That technology is not even far off - if at all far away.

Also there ubiguitous nods to the full surveillance state that we live in. Among those one of the reasons why Zuckerberg-sugarmountain blocks his notebook mics and camera (like I do - well not the mic, but at least the camera).

Either way - a great show that the big boys are showing us - all clad in entertainment that will just familiarize us with the future - as they are planning something that is a mixture of all that is shown.

Post: #80

(10-22-2016 07:46 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  1) Social media control where everyone can rate anyone and the ones with the highest social media scores win the game getting perks, prices and better jobs. This is already being implemented in China! The people get negative scores for being non-PC or even associating with non-PC people online or real life!

You can already see this in the United States with Yelp and seasoned Yelpers getting discounts, etc. at restaurants for positive, weighted reviews. I appreciated the nuance of this episode in the fact that not all 5-stars are equal, e.g. a 5-star from someone of lower standing doesn't carry the safe effect as a 5-star from one with a higher standing. Pretty much quantifying years of clique social conditioning.

Lots of nuanced humor in that first episode, too - the airport security, the sad 'bloop' of the outdated rental car, etc.

Post: #81

Starting season 3 now!

Post: #82

Just watched the first episode of season 3 - absolutely incredible. It feels like we might be 5 years or less away from that, with google glass type tech rather than contact lenses.

Post: #83

watched the first two eps of season three. First one is brilliant, second one is decent. Such a worthwhile series, one of the best sci fi shows of all time.

Post: #84

Damn! Can't wait, there are still a few episodes from Season 1&2 that pop into my head to haunt me.

Such a clever show.

Post: #85

Watched second episode of the third season. Mindblown, IMO its on par with White Christmas. Regarding the first one, yeah, that shit is gonna probably be integrated in society sooner or later.

Post: #86

The one with the two lesbians was really good. I like how they made every era real as hell, the 1990's and early aughts had me reminiscing....

Post: #87

The second episode in the third season was intense.. that was some dark stuff.

Post: #88

dupe dupe

Post: #89

(12-22-2014 05:43 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:47 PM)Teedub Wrote:  All I'm saying is that I think some people on here think Brooker is sympathetic to what we talk about here...when he is actually on the opposing team when it comes to feminism and stuff like that.

I don't think he's really on any particular team. I think it's quite possible for someone to be sympathetic to parts of the world view expressed here and hostile to others.

You mean intelligent discrimination about ideas?

We can start doing that by abandoning absurdly vague, subjective epithets like "SJW", "Liberal", "Conservative" and "wing-nut" ( my personal favorite.).

They have as much descriptive precision as "Counter-revoloutionary" did in Stalin or Mao's day.

They provide nothing to on which to base concrete and productive policy discussions and are only useful as name-calling tools.

Thanks for the tip, I think Twilight Zone was probably the best TV show ever.

Post: #90

Something that really rubbed me the wrong way in Episode 3 (Shut Up and Dance) is the implication that any man who is nice to kids (the guy giving the girl the toy in the beginning) could be a pedophile. There's already enough of that climate and this shit doesn't help.

Other than that, like the seasons before, this one is highly entertaining but about as subtle as a sledgehammer and doesn't really offer any substantial insight into anything except "technology scary". Certain concepts like all the social media stuff are starting to get really repetitive too (and arguably SUAD is a retread of White Bear). Hoping for more creativity for the next one.

Post: #91

He jerked off to pictures of young kids, not a pedophile?

Post: #92

(10-24-2016 08:00 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  He jerked off to pictures of young kids, not a pedophile?

The point is that the scene where he gives back the toy was supposed to foreshadow the pedophilia twist. Which is ridiculous.

Post: #93

(10-24-2016 06:16 AM)atlant Wrote:  Something that really rubbed me the wrong way in Episode 3 (Shut Up and Dance) is the implication that any man who is nice to kids (the guy giving the girl the toy in the beginning) could be a pedophile. There's already enough of that climate and this shit doesn't help.

Other than that, like the seasons before, this one is highly entertaining but about as subtle as a sledgehammer and doesn't really offer any substantial insight into anything except "technology scary". Certain concepts like all the social media stuff are starting to get really repetitive too (and arguably SUAD is a retread of White Bear). Hoping for more creativity for the next one.

I very much agree, this season just does not have the same terrifying subtleties as the others. Season 1 and 2 didn't have to resort to clichees in the same way. It's not all that creative either. Season 1 had some really disturbing episodes like the one with the black guy and rest in this consumerist dystopia.

I thought Episode 1 had a good premise, but stuck to clichees and a happy ending. Episode 2 was full of clichees, obtuse and didn't really say much about tech either way. Episode 3 (lesbian romance?), was not a tech episode at all.

Post: #94

(10-24-2016 08:12 AM)atlant Wrote:  

(10-24-2016 08:00 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  He jerked off to pictures of young kids, not a pedophile?

The point is that the scene where he gives back the toy was supposed to foreshadow the pedophilia twist. Which is ridiculous.

Ah, that is what are you talking about. Regarding that, I can't really make up my mind, maybe it was intentional foreshadowing, maybe just a some sort of implant to make us believe he really is a "nice guy".

Post: #95

The only indication we got that he jerked off to pictures of kids was his mom at the end. The hackers fucked them all over equally, and knew that he wouldn't really have any backlash from just masturbation.

I read that bit as just them fucking him over a bit more. But I suppose it could be him being a pedo, but I doubt it.

Post: #96

I'm pretty sure he was meant to be a pedo all along. His complete overreaction to the video being released made it clear. Besides, the whole point of the episode is vigilante justice and the idea that we are sympathizing with someone who turns out to be a horrible person in the end. All of them did something wrong and they were definitely not fucked over equally - since only the pedos had to fight to the death.

Post: #97

Watched episode 5 just now, definitely see something like that implemented in future.

Post: #98

I am not as impressed by S3 as I was with S1. S1 has some episodes that fucked with my head for years. This season, not much.

Perhaps I need to walk down to the neighborhood dispensary. Last time around that got the brain juices flowing and had my imagination pinned at 11.

Still, brilliant show. Hope to finish it this week.

*edit: And yes the teenager was a pedo. In the car scene, the guy was like "the fuck kid, who cares? Everyone whacks it. In my case, they will take away my kids!!!!"

But the kid was terrified. He knew it was not so simple and he would go to prison.

Post: #99

(10-24-2016 09:51 AM)atlant Wrote:  I'm pretty sure he was meant to be a pedo all along. His complete overreaction to the video being released made it clear. Besides, the whole point of the episode is vigilante justice and the idea that we are sympathizing with someone who turns out to be a horrible person in the end. All of them did something wrong and they were definitely not fucked over equally - since only the pedos had to fight to the death.

Frankly the one with the escort did the least wrong. That is why you get a woman and make it clear that fucking other women is part of the deal - if she wants, then she gets to be part of a threesome, but no more.

The rest is the usual desperation that divorced men feel since wives have them by the balls in our system.

Post: #100

The 1st episode of season 3 was the cringiest episode that I have ever watched. The fakeness oh man, its painfully realistic since much of it is already happening now.

At least it had a relatively happy ending.

Episode 2 was some dark shit about VR.


Episode 3 Really nasty and chilling. The only thing left for the "Protagonist" is permanent exile after release from jail and the salvation of his soul if God existed in his universe. If vigilantes haven't already tracked him down and killed him.