(12-09-2014 02:44 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  You really think he's banged so damn many hotties and pulling 20+ hotties from the club based almost entirely on his fame?

We can agree to disagree, but it's definitely possible. Maybe not just his "fame" per se, but also his lifestyle and looks. If you ever see how women (even men) act around elite famous dudes, you'd probably agree with me too.

You can be a witty man owning the room like Clooney. Or you can be a rebel like James Dean that doesn't give a shit. Tell me Dicaprio doesn't remind you of James Dean in that interview.

(12-09-2014 02:58 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  You can be a witty man owning the room like Clooney. Or you can be a rebel like James Dean that doesn't give a shit. Tell me Dicaprio doesn't remind you of James Dean in that interview.

Fair enough, but would you say James Dean had great verbal skills? You can maybe describe him as "cool," having great body language, having a magnetic vibe, or whatever, but he doesn't stand out as having top-shelf verbal skills like a Clooney or a Bill Burr. They're actors, so you would expect to have the physical part down. But creating captivating, interesting, funny content on the spot--while being charming and disarming--is a distinct skill that requires work (and maybe some natural talent).

That's like saying Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had an amazing 3-point shot just because he's one of the greatest basketball players of all time. No, he made one 3-pointer his whole career. He had other aptitudes, and doesn't need to have been a great 3-point shooter to have been great.

That's Leo, Dean, and others without elite verbal skills. Good at other shit, but not at riffin'. He's average, at best, and that's okay. No one is taking away from his achievements, but the question was asked specifically about his verbal game.

I think with his level of fame and looks, his game is irrelevant, yet his vision matters a lot more. There are many celebrities as famous and hot as him, but because of lack of vision, they bang only one sagging middle-aged woman at a time. Being this rich, famous and charismatic, every woman will throw herself at you for a marriage. It's important to resist this temptation that many fellow man give in.

George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Christian Bale, Will Smith, Hugh Jackman, Tom Cruise, Matt Damon all married and, no matter whether their wifes are hot or not, have been banging the same woman for years, maybe with the exception of an occasional affair or two. Each of these guys can have literally thousands of young hot girls in their mansions with the snap of a finger, yet they choose to commit to one woman whose beauty is irrelevant compared to these guys' sexual market value. But not Leo. He chooses to enjoy the fruits of the bachelor life of a world-famous good looking man as he is supposed to. He is immune to oneitis. He is the last of a dying breed. That I respect him for.

Relevant to this thread:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

Quote:The halo effect is a specific type of confirmation bias, wherein positive feelings in one area cause ambiguous or neutral traits to be viewed positively.

Let's not forget what the late, great Patrice O'Neal once said: a man wants fame so he can get even with pussy.

Top shelf pussy gets stopped on the street all day and night, fielding offers from contenders and pretenders, be it directly or not. The same thing happens to famous men, but probably more aggressively, because women have no fucking game. When faced with a man clearly out of their league, they'll generally act like thirsty simps and use the only bargaining chip they were born with.

Verbals won't get you stopped on the street. Verbals won't completely change the vibe of a venue once you go in.

I wanna be famous, goddamnit.

I still think famous dudes need game maybe even more so than regular dudes. Tiger Woods, O J Simpson, Cobain, Mark Zuckerberg, Kobe Bryant, Oscar Pistorius, Chris Brown, Prince Charles, Nikolai Tesla, Usher, Nas and Kelis, Mike Tyson and Robin Givens etc etc. Fame without game = walking ATM.

Props to Leo, alpha of the month.

(12-09-2014 03:04 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 02:58 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  You can be a witty man owning the room like Clooney. Or you can be a rebel like James Dean that doesn't give a shit. Tell me Dicaprio doesn't remind you of James Dean in that interview.

Fair enough, but would you say James Dean had great verbal skills? You can maybe describe him as "cool," having great body language, having a magnetic vibe, or whatever, but he doesn't stand out as having top-shelf verbal skills like a Clooney or a Bill Burr. They're actors, so you would expect to have the physical part down. But creating captivating, interesting, funny content on the spot--while being charming and disarming--is a distinct skill that requires work (and maybe some natural talent).

That's like saying Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had an amazing 3-point shot just because he's one of the greatest basketball players of all time. No, he made one 3-pointer his whole career. He had other aptitudes, and doesn't need to have been a great 3-point shooter to have been great.

That's Leo, Dean, and others without elite verbal skills. Good at other shit, but not at riffin'. He's average, at best, and that's okay. No one is taking away from his achievements, but the question was asked specifically about his verbal game.

No Tuth you're right. I was also making the observation that game is a lot more than riffing. Now I do think that playing it too cool is an art. For me personally it is actually easier/natural to be a "riffer" and make quips constantly. I have to work on playing it cool like James Dean, and when I do accomplish it I get success. Maybe it is just because of the variety, not necessarily because it is a better strategy.

The ideal would be to have the ability to riff, while maintaining a James Dean persona for the most part. The problem is also that wit needs to be constantly sharpened, and if you get too lazy, you lose it.

(12-09-2014 03:45 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:  Let's not forget what the late, great Patrice O'Neal once said: a man wants fame so he can get even with pussy.

Top shelf pussy gets stopped on the street all day and night, fielding offers from contenders and pretenders, be it directly or not. The same thing happens to famous men, but probably more aggressively, because women have no fucking game. When faced with a man clearly out of their league, they'll generally act like thirsty simps and use the only bargaining chip they were born with.

Verbals won't get you stopped on the street. Verbals won't completely change the vibe of a venue once you go in.

I wanna be famous, goddamnit.

Fame has it's own set of problems as some guys in the know reported. Many girls - especially the 9-10s don't want to be in the papers as one new conquest of Leo or Colin Farrell. According to Lifestyle Gamers like Distant Light the unknown connectors and even cool wealthy guys get laid more there. Of course what he does not see is that many of the famous men do grand house parties and have huge orgies. Even as a wealthy man you can't get women flocking to your crib so easily.

Fame is the most powerful pre-selection tool for the female hamster, but I don't know whether it is worth the hassle starting from a certain lifestyle level on. What I mean by that is if you have great wealth already you can build mini-fame level yourself via club lock-downs, grand house-parties and connectors.

Also most famous guys don't use it to get laid, so in effect it's not much of worth to them in that field.

Theres another significant difference between Clooney and Leo, one that I think elevates Leo in stature above other Hollywood stars.

Clooney came onto the scene late. His first explosion of fame and notoriety came from ER but he was already 33 years old then. At that time, he was a slayer sure, but he was still just playing a doctor on T.V.

Leo on the other hand, had the heartthrob double whammy of Romeo+Juliet and Titanic when he was 22-23. Think about that for a moment; every single girl on Earth fell in love with him in the 90s and thereafter. I never saw Titanic and I thought Romeo+Juliet sucked, but to the women of Earth, these two movies are timeless romance classics. In guy terms, it would be like discussing First Blood or Terminator 2.

He could bomb for the rest of the career, but just having those two movies in his past puts him at or near the top of every girl's fuck list. Add that to the fact he's had a highly successful career since then and his reputation as a playboy, and that pretty much wraps it up. Verbal game? Ha! Anyone thinking that verbal game is even a factor here doesn't have a fucking clue how fame and notoriety affect women.

WHB Daisy Fuentes (would have banged), I'm guessing she's ugly wall-ish now.

(12-09-2014 04:00 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  WHB Daisy Fuentes (would have banged), I'm guessing she's ugly wall-ish now.

48 years - well past her prime, but looks remarkably good for her age. Some women have good genetics & beauty ops actually serve her well.

Leo would not bang her of course now. I might to be honest, but would have to take a look at her naked body first.

(12-09-2014 03:52 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Fame has it's own set of problems as some guys in the know reported. Many girls - especially the 9-10s don't want to be in the papers as one new conquest of Leo or Colin Farrell.

Totally right. As PhilE says in this thread about rich black simps and their subpar conquests:

(01-01-2014 11:49 AM)PhilE Wrote:  In 2000 I started a magazine company catering to local rappers...I noticed that there was a VERY disturbing trend amongst these men and their relationship to the groupie.

1.) The women who got to VIP were more times than not 6's and 7s. That is because they were the MOST Aggressive. 8s, 9+s weren't going to fight other women, security, and their pride of appearing feminine to get to VIP. In any club we were at, they BADDEST chicks were on the dance floor looking up while these plain jain skeezers were in VIP because they were "by any means necessary" chicks

2.) These guys were EXTREMELY lazy, egotistical and RARELY approached women. So as a result they would just shoot the fish in the barrel instead of going out to sea to capture the big fish (8 and 9+s). Even though they KNEW it would still be relatively easy for them they just enjoyed the extreme adoration these aggressive groupies would give them.

Famous dudes have to screen extremely tightly, lest they mistakenly bang a Jackie of recent UVA fame. But I do agree that having a certain lifestyle, once you make a ton of cash, is probably enough. Everyone likes a good party, so it's not unbelievable that at a certain level, some guys can go toe-to-toe with the 'traditionally' famous herbs that don't always leverage their fame to the max.

I imagine the cost per notch of this strategy to be pretty damn high though, and I could never afford it in my line of work.

(12-09-2014 03:55 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Leo on the other hand, had the heartthrob double whammy of Romeo+Juliet and Titanic when he was 22-23. Think about that for a moment; every single girl on Earth fell in love with him in the 90s and thereafter. I never saw Titanic and I thought Romeo+Juliet sucked, but to the women of Earth, these two movies are timeless romance classics.

When titanic came out i remember every girl saying that he looked like "just a boy" and kinda gay.
If i remember correctly everyone on titanic got praised for his performance but him, so im not so sure about that one.
And nobody watched romeo+juliet, definitely not a classic.
He never looked like a masculine handsome man, i wouldnt be surprised if he struggled to make guy friends all of his life. Only recently he started looking like a playboy.

Just imagine the bitching and backstabbing going on in the other rooms back at his pad,"Kaylin is such a slut, she was hogging his cock and made sure everyone knew it, oh and Mandy only did that cause she's got her periods"
Pillow talk at evenings end would be interesting with 20 girls cuddled up beside you too!
Go Leo

(12-09-2014 02:56 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 02:44 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  You really think he's banged so damn many hotties and pulling 20+ hotties from the club based almost entirely on his fame?

We can agree to disagree, but it's definitely possible. Maybe not just his "fame" per se, but also his lifestyle and looks. If you ever see how women (even men) act around elite famous dudes, you'd probably agree with me too.

Yes, his lifestyle and looks definitely play into it as well as the two specific movies that Veloce posted (Titanic + Romeo/Juliet). I thought about this some and watched some more interviews (like the below) and I'm still pretty convinced that he's above average in the charisma/conversationalist department.

I suppose since he's a superstar in the other departments he'd only need no game and only be able to speak really basically in order to get laid with that caliber of girl. Maybe I'll meet him some day...hopefully on his yacht surrounded by extremely beautiful/sexy women while Clooney is going through his 2nd divorce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBOn_ZQg_8k

(12-09-2014 01:48 AM)Basement Dweller Wrote:  ^^^Whenever I see these Dan Brazilian type photos I always wonder how fucking boring it must be surrounding yourself with all these boneheads.

I mean once you've done fucking what do you talk about all day?

That's a nice "problem" to have.

(12-09-2014 06:37 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 01:48 AM)Basement Dweller Wrote:  ^^^Whenever I see these Dan Brazilian type photos I always wonder how fucking boring it must be surrounding yourself with all these boneheads.

I mean once you've done fucking what do you talk about all day?

That's a nice "problem" to have.

That dynamic is never really boring - you need only one other good friend and be surrounded with 5-10 girls to have a grand time. Teasing the girls and having a good laugh together with your buddy is ample entertainment value for days.

I sometimes managed to go out with a buddy and 4 or more girls to clubs. Not only was nightclub game quite interesting to say the least, we had a grand time observing and making fun of the girls themselves - who by the way liked it. Then I went into one of my monologues about life and truth (and philosophical crap like that) and they all sat and looked at me like bambis in the headlight.

But I will concede that it can get boring if you are the only man surrounded by girls. But I never experienced it for more than one night or a 2-day trip, so who knows - I am sure there is plenty of topics to discuss - none of them overly serious.

(12-08-2014 07:53 PM)JJ Roberts Wrote:  Nobody does it like Leo.

Note : Those women who are so "disgusted" by him in the comments would follow him out of the club like he was the pied piper.

What makes them feel like this is the fact that they will never be young and attractive enough to be selected into the harem of one top "1", the way these women feel is the same way teenage boys feel when the teenage girls are ignoring them, and are going for older guys with sport cars or a motorcycle, and has a tattoo.

Women hate the fact that a man can rise his value with fame and money, while women only go downhill, day after day, year after year, it is like being in a closed room with a leaking poison pipe that you can't seal, you just have to let it happens.

(12-08-2014 07:55 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  ^ Leo is a pimp, but he is political and has been visiting the Alberta oil sands, making speeches and working on a documentary.

I like Leo for his way with women, he lives the life any man would be doing is his position, but he is a political hypocrite, he talked at UN about global warming but he himself like many others celebrities in Hollywood, pollute more in a week that an entire family in a year.

He tweeted this


and travels like this

That and giants yacht do not use rainbow to run, he can travel and enjoy his money, I would be doing the same, but do not go around telling common people about global warming while you have 5 luxury homes than burns more carbon than a third world country.

(12-08-2014 09:49 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 07:53 PM)JJ Roberts Wrote:  Note : Those women who are so "disgusted" by him in the comments would follow him out of the club like he was the pied piper.

This is exactly the first thing I thought.

It's funny that masculine men react to another man's success with mostly positive affirmation. "Right on man." "Good for you!". Deep down we might have a bit of envy, but that's called being human.

Women (and bitch-made men) on the other hand, go fully bitter on a player. If she's not part of his selection pool, then clearly he is the most disgusting and revolting man alive.

I'm sure that's what those hot pieces of ass were thinking when they left the club with him

Those women are the same one whom would not give the time of the day to a fat ugly awkward guy, they are 3s and 4s but believe they deserve a top tier man, they are as entitle as the men they shame.

(12-08-2014 10:04 PM)monster Wrote:  I wonder Leo's verbal game is like.

I wonder if the girls do all the talking, or what little tid bits he lets out to charm em all.

For example, what do you think he's saying here:



This is the girl whose (ex?) husband offed himself after this photo came out.

Was he whispering "I can cast you in my next movie with Martin Scorcese" or was he telling her "My drink's OK but what I really wanted was a whiskey" or is he saying "wait till you see my next moves on this dance floor."

What do you think?

Quote:Innocent discussion: While the actor was seen whispering in Katie's ear, her representative insists they were talking about animal conservation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/art...-life.html

The type of shit the hamster comes out with.

(12-08-2014 10:22 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:04 PM)monster Wrote:  I wonder Leo's verbal game is like.

I suspect it's don't-fuck-up game for the most part, punctuated with straight-through-the-front-door stories from his fabulous, international, Hollywood lifestyle. I would bet a huge sum of money that I have better verbal game than he does--pound for pound. In fact, a lot of the seasoned guys on the forum do. But I don't have the looks, fame, money, acting talent, travel, hot-bitch resume, wardrobe, jewelry, palatial house, hair products, high-profile friends, access etc. that he does. Verbal skills are a product of necessity. I need them. Leo don't.

Interviews tell you a lot about a guy's verbal game. Check out how these bitches react to him, but also check out his rather primitive riffing skills and content. It's all factual stories from his movie career, not particularly well-told:





Contrast that with a top-rate comedian, who has top-shelf riffing and story-telling skills. This interview with Bill Burr (an unrehearsed one, not network-TV panel) is a good example. It's long, but any few minutes will do (e.g., @13:38-15:40).

Warning: The feminist-looking co-host is a pain in the ass.

If you want to see a good dominance and verbal skills, Wladimir Klitschko take total control of this bitch without even rising his voice and including a compliment between lines.





Unlike Leo and Cloony, Klitschko, he does not pretend for a living, also the guy comes from Ukraine, a very different culture.

Just for the sake of it I made this, bitch moving her face like a clown, he straight face like "WTF"

(12-08-2014 10:59 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  Too bad those FB comments have no pictures next to them. I'm willing to bet each and every one of them trashing him is a fat troll jealous that they cannot get that kind of man. Off to POF they go, uploading myspace angle pictures of their "curvy" body, positing in their profile "where have all the good men gone?"

(12-08-2014 11:50 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  Good for him. I'm just thinking about all the Alpha Widows he is creating in his wake. It must be in the hundreds, if not more.

Can you imagine, 10 years from now, one of these washed up broads getting bought dinner by her BB husband, a little drunk, she lets that little treat slip out.

"There was that one time with Leo."
"Leo?"
"Oh yeah, Leonardo Dicaprio"
"You had sex with Leonardo Dicaprio?!" he shrieked, dropping his fork in his bed of pasta
"Oh, it was only that one time," muttering, taking a long pull from her wine glass that hid her disgust
"Was he good?"
"There were 20 other girls there. Don't worry about it, I love you so much more baby."
He leaned his arms on the table, trying to keep from placing his head in his palms, but failing, dragging them across his white face. All he could imagine was his wife gladly receiving Leo's dick, only to be pushed aside for the next toy to be cast away and forgotten. Poor girl, he thought, she didn't know that Leo was going to do that to her.
"It's okay baby, I love you" he proclaims, wimpily, stretching across the table to kiss her
She receives the kiss, going through the motions with her mouth, eyeing the tiramisu on the dessert menu--an aching dryness spreading between her thighs.

And she refuses to do blowjob, maybe his birthdays if he is lucky, because is "gross"

(12-09-2014 01:48 AM)Basement Dweller Wrote:  ^^^Whenever I see these Dan Brazilian type photos I always wonder how fucking boring it must be surrounding yourself with all these boneheads.

I mean once you've done fucking what do you talk about all day?

Those women are there to entertain you, not you to them, they are the one that should be lucky to be in your company, because when you can next her so easily and she knows it, you can spend the whole day without saying a word and they should be okay with it.

Or be like Brazillian, use them like toys to play around

(12-09-2014 03:04 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 02:58 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  You can be a witty man owning the room like Clooney. Or you can be a rebel like James Dean that doesn't give a shit. Tell me Dicaprio doesn't remind you of James Dean in that interview.

Fair enough, but would you say James Dean had great verbal skills? You can maybe describe him as "cool," having great body language, having a magnetic vibe, or whatever, but he doesn't stand out as having top-shelf verbal skills like a Clooney or a Bill Burr. They're actors, so you would expect to have the physical part down. But creating captivating, interesting, funny content on the spot--while being charming and disarming--is a distinct skill that requires work (and maybe some natural talent).

That's like saying Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had an amazing 3-point shot just because he's one of the greatest basketball players of all time. No, he made one 3-pointer his whole career. He had other aptitudes, and doesn't need to have been a great 3-point shooter to have been great.

That's Leo, Dean, and others without elite verbal skills. Good at other shit, but not at riffin'. He's average, at best, and that's okay. No one is taking away from his achievements, but the question was asked specifically about his verbal game.

When you are that high in the in the social market place, you can say "I shit my pants" and would be okay.

(12-09-2014 03:45 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:  Let's not forget what the late, great Patrice O'Neal once said: a man wants fame so he can get even with pussy.

Top shelf pussy gets stopped on the street all day and night, fielding offers from contenders and pretenders, be it directly or not. The same thing happens to famous men, but probably more aggressively, because women have no fucking game. When faced with a man clearly out of their league, they'll generally act like thirsty simps and use the only bargaining chip they were born with.

Verbals won't get you stopped on the street. Verbals won't completely change the vibe of a venue once you go in.

I wanna be famous, goddamnit.

Say that and "I wanna have money" in front of women and see the hamster spin fast, in order to not look like one of "those" other girls that go around famous rich guys, they will tell you "to be yourself " fallowed with around 20 questions of how, and why you wanna be famous and rich, fallowed by a refusal about how girls really "don't like that".

(12-09-2014 03:55 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Theres another significant difference between Clooney and Leo, one that I think elevates Leo in stature above other Hollywood stars.

Clooney came onto the scene late. His first explosion of fame and notoriety came from ER but he was already 33 years old then. At that time, he was a slayer sure, but he was still just playing a doctor on T.V.

Leo on the other hand, had the heartthrob double whammy of Romeo+Juliet and Titanic when he was 22-23. Think about that for a moment; every single girl on Earth fell in love with him in the 90s and thereafter. I never saw Titanic and I thought Romeo+Juliet sucked, but to the women of Earth, these two movies are timeless romance classics. In guy terms, it would be like discussing First Blood or Terminator 2.

He could bomb for the rest of the career, but just having those two movies in his past puts him at or near the top of every girl's fuck list. Add that to the fact he's had a highly successful career since then and his reputation as a playboy, and that pretty much wraps it up. Verbal game? Ha! Anyone thinking that verbal game is even a factor here doesn't have a fucking clue how fame and notoriety affect women.

He is one of the few male actors that have survive after being a teen idol

(12-09-2014 04:36 PM)dog24 Wrote:  

(12-09-2014 03:55 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Leo on the other hand, had the heartthrob double whammy of Romeo+Juliet and Titanic when he was 22-23. Think about that for a moment; every single girl on Earth fell in love with him in the 90s and thereafter. I never saw Titanic and I thought Romeo+Juliet sucked, but to the women of Earth, these two movies are timeless romance classics.

When titanic came out i remember every girl saying that he looked like "just a boy" and kinda gay.
If i remember correctly everyone on titanic got praised for his performance but him, so im not so sure about that one.
And nobody watched romeo+juliet, definitely not a classic.
He never looked like a masculine handsome man, i wouldnt be surprised if he struggled to make guy friends all of his life. Only recently he started looking like a playboy.

Many child actors have a very hard childhood, it is hard to have such schedules and be involved in in such huge industry, many at that age do not even really know what they really into, the only friends they have are usually other kids in the industry.

(12-09-2014 10:52 PM)Soberane Wrote:  If you want to see a good dominance and verbal skills, Wladimir Klitschko take total control of this bitch without even rising his voice and including a compliment between lines.

That video is a fucking clinic. Minimal movement, refusal to jump through her hoops, the way he reads her intentions behind the questions like an open book, and masterfully dodging her agenda, etc. So many good points. Thanks for sharing it.

The Klitschko interview is impressive. It's clear that he's in complete control of his emotions both in and out of the boxing ring.

(12-09-2014 10:52 PM)Soberane Wrote:  For example, what do you think he's saying here:



This is the girl whose (ex?) husband offed himself after this photo came out.

Was he whispering "I can cast you in my next movie with Martin Scorcese" or was he telling her "My drink's OK but what I really wanted was a whiskey" or is he saying "wait till you see my next moves on this dance floor."

What do you think?

Of course those celebrities are hypocrites regarding the fake global warming agenda. There has not been any warming since almost 18 years now, which is why they changed the name of the agenda to climate change and now even to climate disruption. But that is another matter - the elite wants you to live in property - it should not influence their live-like-10.000-of-you lifestyle.

Now regarding that pic in the nightclub: - likely he has his hard dick pressed against her ass - at least a quickie was very likely. She was not fooling anyone with her assessments that they are just friends talking about poor furry animals.

Also great gif - Sobrane - very funy:

God that woman was fucking annoying but mastery from Klitschko

Great example with Klitschko.

Engaged to Hayden Panettiere.