Post: #1

I think that when you a guy make the decision to change to another bar in the right moment, is probably the best way to see if he has game.

Since i was in school i rembember this guys who always managed to drag the girls on the right moment, and then they just had to avoid screw things to get isolated. It's what GLL called it killer instinct

I have been out of it's effects for a long time because i was playing in a place very dinamic where people tend to stay to get the full experience. So i had that stuff in control, and was friend with the organizers too, so i had a cool group anyways.

I was banned recently from that place and started to go out solo, and have been loosing a lot of girls that are receptive because some dude just flirt to one of the friends of the girl that i'm into and drags the whole group.

What i mean is that if you are with a group of 5 guys, if you tell to three girls: "hey we are going to this place now, you should come", you have a lot more chance than one men, just the fact that there are a big group generates social pressure. And the fact that i don't really know another spots nearly as good as the locals doesn't help either.

So, you approach a girl, she is into you, her friends are in their stuff and a group of four guys approach them, the two girls like them, you have two against one. It is just an expample but there are a lot of scenarios like this, i know, it's stupid, but i'm not used to deal with it.

The other night i was like fuck it i'm sticking to the group, and the guys started to get pissed off until we almost fight. I probably would do the same, but the fact is that is not ideal to follow another group to not loose the girl.

So the only solutions that i find are:
1. Drag them frist, seems complicated, and still let the question open. What happens if one of them proposes first and the girls like the idea?
2. Go out with a wingman or a group lol, i would do it but i have not find that so easy, people don't trust in everybody or are broken/socially awkward, precisally, the people who you would like to go out already have their circles, and in general people just don't go out as much as i'm able to.

Have any of you guys experienced this? what can you recommend?

Post: #2

Isolate, escalate, venue change

If she's into you, isolate asap