Post: #26

Imagine having to be around her for any length of time.. say your cousin started dating her and started bringing her around. Whats the over/under on time until a massive shit storm breaks out? For me I'd give it about 30 mins to an hour tops.

I had a buddy in college who dated an Asian chick like this and we got into it so often that we had to stay separated to avoid arguing. I just couldn't deal with her uptight bullshit on a consistent basis. Plus she hated me after I accidentally cracked their futon, but he told me it was her choice to buy it and that he hated it ( surprise surprise) and not to worry about repaying him.

Post: #27

I don't think guys should do daygame unless your getting massive IOIs but running up to chicks in the middle of a sidewalk and hitting on them??...fuck that shit.

Post: #28

(05-31-2018 08:47 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  I don't think guys should do daygame unless your getting massive IOIs but running up to chicks in the middle of a sidewalk and hitting on them??...fuck that shit.

Curious as to what you mean by "massive" IOIs?

Does "fuck that shit" mean you don't want to or that you don't have the balls to?

If you don't want to, what is your practiced approach method? Approaching them with your lightsaber at Star Wars conventions?

Really looking forward to your response.

Post: #29

Game rules:

1. Pay attention to what she does, not what she says.

2. See rule 1.

Proper daygame (i.e. not clown game or whatever those Street Pickup dumbasses did) is so far removed from sexual harassment that equating the two is poisoning the well.

Post: #30

I think most of this battle of the sexes is because we communicate differently.

men are more direct and literal. women are more indirect.

their indirectness a lot of times can be misread. hell even after meeting thousands of women and sleeping with hundreds I still misread non-verbals from them.

99% of guys doing daygame don't want to bother a girl but rather want to create mutual attraction. it's the demonization that both sides do to each other that's fucking shit up and it's most just a misunderstanding.

and the fact that we have different sexual strategies too which are often at odds...

Post: #31

(05-31-2018 09:24 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 08:47 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  I don't think guys should do daygame unless your getting massive IOIs but running up to chicks in the middle of a sidewalk and hitting on them??...fuck that shit.

Curious as to what you mean by "massive" IOIs?

Does "fuck that shit" mean you don't want to or that you don't have the balls to?

If you don't want to, what is your practiced approach method? Approaching them with your lightsaber at Star Wars conventions?

Really looking forward to your response.

Massive IOIs I mean a girl repeatedly looking at you and smiling, waving you over, deliberatley loitering around you, etc. I wouldnt approach a girl in broad daylight on the street without those types of IOIs.

I only approach at night at socializing venues or daytime if it's a barbecue, pool party, beach etc. IOIs may or may not come into play but it really doesn't matter since the girls are there for socializing and expect to at least talk to random guys.

Post: #32

Do you use the fedora hat tip "m'lady" approach?

(05-31-2018 10:40 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  ...
Massive IOIs I mean a girl repeatedly looking at you and smiling, waving you over, deliberatley loitering around you, etc. I wouldnt approach a girl in broad daylight on the street without those types of IOIs.
...

Friendo, those would be hookers.

Post: #33

(05-31-2018 08:47 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  I don't think guys should do daygame unless your getting massive IOIs

In other words, you don't think guys should do daygame.

Post: #34

99% of girls are cool with a standard daygame open. as far as those IOI's listed above I've either been too oblivious to them or they're too rare to count on.

that's why the game is hard. cause rejection stings and it's scary because some girl can be psycho.

that's a big reason why most guys do not have sex with a lot of beautiful women.

Post: #35

(05-31-2018 11:08 PM)Jack Gignac Wrote:  99% of girls are cool with a standard daygame open. as far as those IOI's listed above I've either been too oblivious to them or they're too rare to count on.

that's why the game is hard. cause rejection stings and it's scary because some girl can be psycho.

that's a big reason why most guys do not have sex with a lot of beautiful women.

Do you actually do DG?

You will realize IOI's do not occur often.

Most you will get is eye contact and even then that is indifference. Could or bad or good.

The amount of times on the approach where you think she is moody but turned out great - you cheered her up / she was having a bad day and ended dating the girl. Vice versa she seemed happy but then storms off after the approach. You just don't know. Nobody can read minds. Hence you approach and find out.

Post: #36

(06-01-2018 12:27 AM)tobehero Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 11:08 PM)Jack Gignac Wrote:  99% of girls are cool with a standard daygame open. as far as those IOI's listed above I've either been too oblivious to them or they're too rare to count on.

that's why the game is hard. cause rejection stings and it's scary because some girl can be psycho.

that's a big reason why most guys do not have sex with a lot of beautiful women.

Do you actually do DG?

You will realize IOI's do not occur often.

Most you will get is eye contact and even then that is indifference. Could or bad or good.

The amount of times on the approach where you think she is moody but turned out great - you cheered her up / she was having a bad day and ended dating the girl. Vice versa she seemed happy but then storms off after the approach. You just don't know. Nobody can read minds. Hence you approach and find out.

Precisely. Statistically, you'll be more successful with assumption of false positives than true or false negatives. Each approach is new deck of cards from which you draw a card. Lose small, win big.

Post: #37

This is just horrible. People find young women attractive and tell them. If only there were a process that could stop this -- something like the passage of time and the addition of weight.

Seriously, these women should appreciate the attention because in ten years (or perhaps less) it will be gone forever.

I'm not saying this just to be cruel either. Even as a guy, I miss the compliments I got when I was in my twenties.

Don't take your youth for granted, whatever your sex. As time passes, even the bad things start to seem good.

I remember being about 23 and getting seriously stressed in my workplace because the 18-year-old high school intern had told everyone she planned on asking me to her prom. Yeah, that should be my biggest problem now: Having high school girls after me. Oh, the horror!

Post: #38

(06-01-2018 07:43 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Seriously, these women should appreciate the attention because in ten years (or perhaps less) it will be gone forever.

I'm not saying this just to be cruel either. Even as a guy, I miss the compliments I got when I was in my twenties.

Don't take your youth for granted, whatever your sex. As time passes, even the bad things start to seem good.

They do take it for granted - I wonder what complaints would be like if a ranting girl like that would not get compliments on her style, dress, looks, appearance at all. I have to deal with it - I never get compliments from women.* NEVER (despite the fact I have top lean muscular physique, pretty decent face, dress sharp, groom sharp, etc. I think you need to be in < 1% to get complimented by women (in Scotland, that is).

* I mean women with whom I'm strangers.

Post: #39

Once hot women all remember the age when they no longer turn heads / get attention. The smarter ones get married to rich guys before then.

Post: #40

There's a crucial concept here that women completely miss, and it speaks to the nature of men and women on a profound level.

The next time a girl complains about being approached by a guy, hit her with this: "If men NEVER approached women, YOU would NEVER get laid, NEVER have a boyfriend, NEVER have a husband. Any man you have ever gotten to know intimately you met through approach, whether direct or through degrees of separation. It could be through a street approach, in a bar, indirectly through the internet, through a mutual friend. Be grateful that men approach, and take the bad with the good. If men didn't approach, the species would cease to exist."

A bit heavy reply, but it gets the message across

Post: #41

(06-01-2018 12:27 AM)tobehero Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 11:08 PM)Jack Gignac Wrote:  99% of girls are cool with a standard daygame open. as far as those IOI's listed above I've either been too oblivious to them or they're too rare to count on.

that's why the game is hard. cause rejection stings and it's scary because some girl can be psycho.

that's a big reason why most guys do not have sex with a lot of beautiful women.

Do you actually do DG?

You will realize IOI's do not occur often.

Most you will get is eye contact and even then that is indifference. Could or bad or good.

The amount of times on the approach where you think she is moody but turned out great - you cheered her up / she was having a bad day and ended dating the girl. Vice versa she seemed happy but then storms off after the approach. You just don't know. Nobody can read minds. Hence you approach and find out.

yeah dude I was saying the same thing as you. perhaps you misread or didn't make myself clear? I was essentially saying I don't count on IOI's to make an approach and if I did my results would be exponentially lower. Been doing DG for 8+ years.

Post: #42

(06-01-2018 12:36 PM)Jack Gignac Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 12:27 AM)tobehero Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 11:08 PM)Jack Gignac Wrote:  99% of girls are cool with a standard daygame open. as far as those IOI's listed above I've either been too oblivious to them or they're too rare to count on.

that's why the game is hard. cause rejection stings and it's scary because some girl can be psycho.

that's a big reason why most guys do not have sex with a lot of beautiful women.

Do you actually do DG?

You will realize IOI's do not occur often.

Most you will get is eye contact and even then that is indifference. Could or bad or good.

The amount of times on the approach where you think she is moody but turned out great - you cheered her up / she was having a bad day and ended dating the girl. Vice versa she seemed happy but then storms off after the approach. You just don't know. Nobody can read minds. Hence you approach and find out.

yeah dude I was saying the same thing as you. perhaps you misread or didn't make myself clear? I was essentially saying I don't count on IOI's to make an approach and if I did my results would be exponentially lower. Been doing DG for 8+ years.

Yea thought you were saying don't approach until you get an IOI.

Post: #43