Post: #1

I recently watched the 50 shades of a grey trailer and it made me wonder.

I want to learn how to run this type of game, when i look back on characters that women swoon for especially like grey or, bond, etc. they're all cool relaxed sauve men with strong frames and "intense" cold personalities. These guys are never "clowns" running cocky funny. They don't make girls laugh their asses off.

Is that sort of christian grey/bond type of game merely fictional? Does this sort of "intense" game exist? How do you run it? I watched the 50 shades of grey trailer and I can't imagine having his sort of vibe in any game situations.. Does this sort of game only exist because these characters are "high value" and already preselected. Can a regular guy successfully run this game?

how do you reconcile that cocky funny game style with the idealized cool sauve intense man women want.

Post: #2

Those guys have wealth and/or status, which in some circumstances can be all the Game you need.

Post: #3

If you have a nice car, get custom-suited down and are tall, you're halfway there. It's an aura, you have to have the cold look as well.

Post: #4

Just be young, handsome, well dressed and aloof.

Post: #5

Read the first paragraph

http://www.thebookspoiler.com/Spoilers/50Shades.html

A handsome 27 year old billionaire CEO..who may be her future boss.

The girl is young and is in an artificial social setting where she has to try and impress him.

You're not going to get to pull a control freak act, aka intensity, without the rest if the package.

50 shades is a male fantasy as well as a female one.

WIA

Post: #6

Makes sense.

But a lot of male game just comes down to being an "entertainer" which means you are trying to impress her with your clown act. Yet women want exactly the opposite thing, they want a man who they want to impress, the don't want a dancing clown they want an intense high smv alpha.

Is there anyway to escape the entertainer clown role?

Post: #7

You need to have perceived status so much higher than what her looks are worth she doesn't question your status.

Otherwise you will need clown game, at least enough to reel her in and bang her well enough she starts getting attached to the sex and excitement. After that you can make her chase and be a bit more intense and aloof.

Post: #8

Misread the OP

Its just a look you have

Women seem to define cold and intense differently than us

There's "creepy" cold/intense and there's making the pussy wet cold/intense

You're going to need status to pull off the later

Why are women into hat type of shit? same reason why they're attracted to drug dealers.

Post: #9

(10-26-2014 08:11 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Does this sort of "intense" game exist? How do you run it?

It does exist, but, you have to be a very good conversationalist and have the right "vibe".

You have to be very interesting and engaging to talk to

You don't have to necessarily "entertain" her but you definitely have to engage her emotions and interests.

(10-26-2014 08:11 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Can a regular guy successfully run this game?

Not really. Only a small percentage of guys have the personality and conversational skills to be able to run this type of game.

(10-26-2014 05:32 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  Is there anyway to escape the entertainer clown role?

Yes, you must be very interesting, emotionally engaging, and passion enduing in a quiet non "clownish" type of way.

Post: #10

Is this "intense" to you?





If it is then yes, you can do it too no problemo man. The dude is super cocky here but not in haha way. It's possible

Post: #11

Excellent thread, as its something I've considered a while back. Bond is the epitome of masculinity, and emulating how he gets the pussy wet is definitely the end goal for a lot of men. I think it involves a few things stated above, in money, status, and a sense of self worth. I don't want to be the clown anymore, and I enjoy the lower energy that is necessary to pull this kind of game off.

But what you also need is an ego about you. You need to know you're worth more than any guy this girl will ever have. I've heard it described as "walk around as if you've got 100mil in your bank account, and a 12 inch cock between your legs." You've just got to know you're better than any other guy on any given day, and carry that confidence, those thoughts, and that swagger all the time.

Post: #12

This is a great thread, you guys answered a bunch of questions I didn't know how to ask. In my sexcapades I've actually had sex with mysterious bondesque game but it's usually with slightly dumb 6s and 7s. By dumb I mean they emit a simple minded vibe, not a lot of snarkiness (good so far) but are incredibly gullible.

...Actually now that I've written that I guess most girls are pretty gullible for a high confidence line. The more educated and higher selfworth ones just require more confidence up front. Additionally, I just run this game when I meet a random with some level of visible interest. 8+ don't usually go for it because I'm not all that attractive.

Post: #13

(10-26-2014 08:11 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  I recently watched the 50 shades of a grey trailer and it made me wonder.

I want to learn how to run this type of game, when i look back on characters that women swoon for especially like grey or, bond, etc. they're all cool relaxed sauve men with strong frames and "intense" cold personalities. These guys are never "clowns" running cocky funny. They don't make girls laugh their asses off.

Is that sort of christian grey/bond type of game merely fictional? Does this sort of "intense" game exist? How do you run it? I watched the 50 shades of grey trailer and I can't imagine having his sort of vibe in any game situations.. Does this sort of game only exist because these characters are "high value" and already preselected. Can a regular guy successfully run this game?

how do you reconcile that cocky funny game style with the idealized cool sauve intense man women want.

Yes you can do it, in fact you do it whilst daygaming.

Post: #14

You should find the game that fits your personality and uses your strengths. You can only find this out by trial and error. There is no easy way.

Post: #15

Like others have said, if your perceived status is high, you practically just need to show up and stare at girls to make them melt. My dance instructor pulls like that. He is also the DJ, ripped, nice beard, dance god. I saw him simply wink at a girl and she leaves with him.

Otherwise the intense game is simply both a female and male fantasy. The girls want a guy so high value that will overwhelm her senses but in reality those guys wouldnt look at them. The guys want to be that guy because you dont have to do any work and still get laid.

I think you can do it but the context have to be right. You need to already isolate her when gaming her so the intensity builds and she s got no social escape (friends, other guys cockblocking). Given that all girls are cock-ADHD these days I doubt it will work.

In the modern scene where you rarely get time alone with her in a private space, the "strong silent alpha" guy will simply not do well compared to a crowd catcher. Thats the whole point of game anyway.

Post: #16

I think the problem with reconciling different types of game comes from the fact that Mystery lead to Neil Strauss led to Roissy led to Roosh led to ...

There is more than one type of game. More than one type of woman. The cultural meme of the Manosphere is there's a one type fits all woman and a one type fits all game. It's not correct.

That's not to say Roosh and Roissy (and other people who are obviously better at game and know what they're talking about far more than I do) are wrong, just that their approach isn't the only one.

The aloof, cocky funny approach is successful in most cases, so that's the current ruling paradigm. In MMA, the current ruling paradigm is dirty boxing and wrestling: It's the most successful combination by far, and nearly all the champions use a similar style.

Is it the only one though? No. Lyota Machida has a different strategy. Cruz has a different strategy. Back to game: you're going to be that different strategy. You might want to look up XSplat's blog. He's very much an intense, emotional, fall-in-love-possessive guy. Completely different approach to cocky-funny game.

It isn't about reconciling the two and having a mix of the two. It's about picking which strategy for which girl (or guy or business.) Keep the two different, run split tests and see which one suits you better. Then tihnk about drilling down for more specific techniques and tricks.

Post: #17

My experience is this game works a lot better in sober day-time situations. At a party or out on the town, no one wants to talk too much with the serious guy - they want to have fun.

In the everyday world, though, this type of game works genius because you're not specifically saying anything too outlandish, but your eyes, tone, and demeanor are signaling everything your words aren't.

One of my signature moves when I was younger in the western world was if a girl would be trying to joke around with me I'd look right into her eyes, look her up and down, and meet her eyes again (throw a bit of bedroom eyes into it), without cracking a smirk. It's bold, but trust me that when the timing is right, it can instantly get her wet. It won't get you laid in itself, but this has often put balls in motion that I profited on later on down the road. Learning to use your eyes on a woman is powerful.

I remember all the way back in high school, this girl was sitting across the classroom from me and her and some other girls had been giving me a hard time because they'd caught me walking out of my house with hickeys all over my chest the weekend before. She was laughing with one of her friends (about me obviously) and made a gesture from across the room for me to take off my shirt - being flirty but trying to embarrass me. I caught her eyes, looked her up and down, and with a completely serious expression mouthed the words "You first."

Her face turned bright red and she couldn't even look at me. I went back to the paper I was working on. Not much later she was blowing me everyday, and I remember her recounting that moment as the one that really turned her on and made her decide she wanted me.

These types of moves weren't my bread and butter - I guess you could say fun-loving drunk guy game was - but more "grab your balls and swing moves." It's a bit of a bluff at first because not many guys are quite that confident, but if you keep doing it, the more natural it feels, like most things in life. You'll know you're doing it right when you say or do something and a woman mischeviously says, "Wow, you're cocky," even though you're not doing anything funny.

I will say that one thing with intense, serious-guy game is this. Women will often take you as the ice cold killer that you're portraying yourself as, and if they're clever or experienced at all, or even if they're just trying to impress you, they'll often throw innuendo at you that's impossible to ignore or do something bold that makes it clear they want you to kiss them - or maybe even fuck them right then and there.

It will be nerve-wracking if you've oversold yourself because she'll really throw the encounter ahead a few clicks, but if you let this moment pass by without capitalizing, she'll see right through your presentation and you've lost her. If you're going to put this fantasy out there, you have to nut up and play it out to the end, or the man behind the curtain is revealed.

As someone who drew a lot of his social confidence from booze over the years, I must admit I dropped the ball many a times when the woman got more bold than I could handle during my sober game. But it's better than not having opportunities you can learn from, so I say get out there and give it a go.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling