Post: #1

Hi guys,I am interested in hearing if you guys started game before or after being an a LTR.Also if you think being in a LTR and all the crap that comes with that better prepares you for game.Or if you just started off with game from the offset and not caring for LTR's let me know your thoughts......P.s my keyboard is shagged!!!!

Post: #2

I'm divorced... I picked up chicks before, but knew nothing about game until after my divorce.

I think it depends. I broke up with all three of my exes, so my breakups were not self-confidence shattering like those of guys who have been cheated on, ect. If you're dumped, you may have to work out whatever fallout there is from that and it could impact your game negatively.

(10-16-2014 06:11 PM)Harbinger Wrote:  Hi guys,I am interested in hearing if you guys started game before or after being an a LTR.Also if you think being in a LTR and all the crap that comes with that better prepares you for game.Or if you just started off with game from the offset and not caring for LTR's let me know your thoughts......P.s my keyboard is shagged!!!!

Post: #3

I learned game to get a LTR with someone up to my standards.

After that first real LTR, my game shot through the roof. I stop pedestalizing women after spending that much time with a "hot" one, and learned to see myself as the prize.

I began to see them as sexual conquests and anything more than that, work that they had to work to earn and keep.

That shifted things a lot for me.

Post: #4

Being in a LTR doesn't make your game better unless you were significantly game aware before you got into the LTR.

I was in multiple LTRs before I'd asked a girl out/for her number. I was pretty useless with girls afterwards until I learned game.

Post: #5

Your LTR will fall apart pretty quickly without "game". Anywhere between three months and five years.

Post: #6

(10-17-2014 07:19 PM)CaptainCrazy Wrote:  Your LTR will fall apart pretty quickly without "game". Anywhere between three months and five years.

due to a decreasing interest level on her part the more beta you act.

Post: #7

I was in my first LTR for about 9 months from 2012-2013. I did the most beta shit anyone could think of and I was the epitome of hen packed, pussy whipped you name it

Had a few mini relationships after that and by chance, I stumbled upon rvf and im now laughing at the beta chodes I call my peers who willingly profess their love for their girlfriends

Post: #8

(10-17-2014 07:24 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

(10-17-2014 07:19 PM)CaptainCrazy Wrote:  Your LTR will fall apart pretty quickly without "game". Anywhere between three months and five years.

due to a decreasing interest level on her part the more beta you act.

True.

Women follow. By default. Your beta comes first, then she's not interested.

It can be reversed, if you aren't too deep in beta and she's fucking around already.

Some women are weak and fall into "fucking around" mode pretty quickly. Some are decent enough to give you several years to "prove yourself".

In my 15 year LTR I acted all the way through super-beta to an asshole. Now I stay somewhere in the middle, closer to asshole though.

Can you imagine you own wife trying to LJBF you? Happened to me.

Well, not anymore. Not even an option. Than's goodness I discovered Ross Jeffries shit in ~2003.