Post: #26

@ Gringo I can help you out with any questions also on that topic. Feel free to shoot me a pm as well

Post: #27

Sent.

Post: #28

(04-05-2011 09:08 AM)Selva Wrote:  GManifesto - Okay, I will read some other data sheets and get an idea how to write one. But I use a modified Gunwitch caveman day game and after reading your blog I don't know if there is any overlap between our techniques, other than we both go after females. I do know that a stylish guy with some money would absolutely kill in Lima, in circles with the hottest girls most normal guys might not be able to break into.

"I do know that a stylish guy with some money would absolutely kill in Lima, in circles with the hottest girls most normal guys might not be able to break into."

Sounds like a green light to me. Lima added to the short list.

I look forward to the Data Sheet.

"But I use a modified Gunwitch caveman day game"

Isn't that some pick up artist guy who shot a girl?

Post: #29

(04-06-2011 12:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  "But I use a modified Gunwitch caveman day game"

Isn't that some pick up artist guy who shot a girl?

Yes, but that is one of the parts I modified.

I will put together a Lima day game data sheet later this week and try to have it posted soon.

Post: #30

Selva are you tall/white/blond/blue eyed?

That might to a certain extent explain your huge success.

I have a Peruvian colleague and she is always running after guys who look like above in the Irish pubs over here.

(04-06-2011 12:57 PM)Selva Wrote:  

(04-06-2011 12:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  "But I use a modified Gunwitch caveman day game"

Isn't that some pick up artist guy who shot a girl?

Yes, but that is one of the parts I modified.

I will put together a Lima day game data sheet later this week and try to have it posted soon.

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(04-07-2011 06:17 AM)Sirob Wrote:  Selva are you tall/white/blond/blue eyed?

That might to a certain extent explain your huge success.

I have a Peruvian colleague and she is always running after guys who look like above in the Irish pubs over here.

No, I am not tall and blonde. I am okay looking though, and get a lot of compliments on my appearance. I even had a girl are open me in the park last week with "You are handsome."

My specific strengths are:

My looks

My age - I am 40 now and I can pick from a wide age range of girls from around 18 to 40. Lately I am sticking mostly to 20 and under.

My experience - In my jobs I have worked with mostly women, so I have had a lot of experience learning what makes them tick.

My pick up skills - I studied the shit out of game stuff once I hit 30 and started having trouble picking up young college girls. I worked my ass off until I could have barely decent success in the Midwest college town where I was living.

Peru - after getting tired of all the effort in the US picking up girls I came to Peru and everything fell into place. Peruvian girls are not engaged in some war of the sexes. They want a man just like you want a woman. It's not about conquering her, it's about packaging yourself nicely so she will take you.

*Detail* - I almost NEVER cold approach a girl. I look for indicators of interest and when a girl I think is attractive shows me interest I am right on it. I am not some Superman PUA who can pull any girl he sees. I take what I am given and work it.


I have finished the outline on my Lima Data Sheet and I will try to have it online later today.

Post: #32

Selva,
Good stuff man. Looking very much forward to reading your Lima data sheet as it's been on my list to go to places in a long time. Are you living now in Lima?

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(04-07-2011 08:42 AM)Selva Wrote:  *Detail* - I almost NEVER cold approach a girl.

Then as of you read my words, know that there are about 50 women out there who were down to fuck you, and you miss out; another 50 in the next 5 years if you keep this mindset. It's up to you. Men who do not cold approach women are men who have weak inner game and still fear rejection. The most successful men just do not give a shit who they approach, and if a woman he cold approaches rejects him, he HONESTLY thinks there is something wrong with her...not him.

(04-07-2011 08:42 AM)Selva Wrote:  I look for indicators of interest and when a girl I think is attractive shows me interest I am right on it.

This is good in theory, but fact is 80% of women will not send out direct IOI's to you, (like the famous eye contact for 3 seconds) and will give more subtle indications - like merely walking by you, and not even look at you. Or, she'll just start "fixing" herself - especially the real confident ones with abundant cock reserves.

(04-07-2011 08:42 AM)Selva Wrote:  I am not some Superman PUA who can pull any girl he sees.

I don't think such a man exists. I work with celebrities, and I have seen them rejected by hot women too. No, they were not playing hard to get, they were just not interested.

(04-07-2011 08:42 AM)Selva Wrote:  I take what I am given and work it.

See my first response.

Mixx

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(04-07-2011 09:58 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(04-07-2011 08:42 AM)Selva Wrote:  *Detail* - I almost NEVER cold approach a girl.

Then as of you read my words, know that there are about 50 women out there who were down to fuck you, and you miss out; another 50 in the next 5 years if you keep this mindset. It's up to you. Men who do not cold approach women are men who have weak inner game and still fear rejection. The most successful men just do not give a shit who they approach, and if a woman he cold approaches rejects him, he HONESTLY thinks there is something wrong with her...not him.

Yes, I need to quit limiting myself. That was exactly what I was thinking all those times I was standing in line at the pharmacy to buy Viagra because my dick wasn't keeping up with the 1 or 2 chicks I was boning every day

Thanks for the input. I have read a lot of your posts here and I have learned a lot from you. I am sure I can do better at the game following your advice.

Post: #35

(04-07-2011 09:32 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Selva,
Are you living now in Lima?

No, right now I live in a crappy city on the edge of the jungle. It is a horrible place for picking up women and everything I learned about how to play the game in Lima is worthless here.

I am finally figuring out how to game chicks here but it is too much effort for too little pussy and as soon as I can I will be back in Lima.

Post: #36

Selva,

What do you do for money? How are you living in Peru full time?

Mixx,

The selective approaching might not be as bad in a large populous city like Lima. You will get enough IOI's to keep you more than busy! lol But yea your right def missing out on some bangs!

Post: #37

Has anyone any doubt about which country would I recomend?

Post: #38

(04-07-2011 11:18 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  Selva,

What do you do for money? How are you living in Peru full time?

I live in Peru almost full time. I have an internet marketing consultation business and I am starting up an ecotourism business here in the jungle and going back to Lima to start a city concierge business. I am spending all my money trying to get this going but my life broke in Peru is way better than when I had money in the US.

Here is a link to my Lima (Miraflores) Data sheet: /thread-4157.html

Post: #39

Quote:Finally I found some threads about the Gunwitch Method, which is summed up in one sentence: "Make the ho say no." Basically you approach a girl who has shown interest and really try to ramp up the sexual tension and push for a same day lay. Don't shoot the shit with her, try to get her horny and get her isolated. This is a ballsy play and if you don't have rock-solid inner game you can blow her out easy, but if you are confident and get the message across without being a dick you get a lot of lays, fast.

Isn't Gunwitch the same fat bastard who shot some chick in the face a few months ago? Sounds very similar to Mode One with being High Risk/High Reward. The thing with Caveman like methods is that at least from my experience and from what I have personally observed is that they only really work on women who are really feeling you from the get go.

but I digress, I actually like Peru, quality wise the women just don't stack up with the Colombianas and Brazilians. However, they more than make up for the lack of bodies and faces with friendliness and overall pleasant attitude. Back to the OP question if I had to pick from the three, I would probably stick to Colombia because 1. lots of cheap flying options from the US. 2. imho Spanish is easier to learn and more useful than Portuguese(2 countries speak it vs 25+ countries), 3. Colombia is a little more expensive than Peru but no where near as much as Brazil. 4. Like Mixx has said plenty of times, Colombia guys aren't really overly aggressive towards women as compared to Argie and Brazilian guys so that translate to less drama at least when it comes to approaching.

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(04-09-2011 01:51 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Isn't Gunwitch the same fat bastard who shot some chick in the face a few months ago? Sounds very similar to Mode One with being High Risk/High Reward. The thing with Caveman like methods is that at least from my experience and from what I have personally observed is that they only really work on women who are really feeling you from the get go.

I knew I was going to deal with this when I mentioned his name, but I am giving credit where credit is due. Gunwitch laid out a plan back in the day for a guy who just wants to fuck without jacking his jaws or performing magic tricks

To make it work you really have to calibrate her interest. I know within a couple minutes if a girl is down to fuck and if so I keep working. If I think she is probably down but not tonight I'll lay the groundwork, then disengage and try to caveman her again some other time.

If I think she will take some work I go into a modified beta lameass mode that gets me nothing, like the 20 y.o. cutie who shut me down yesterday after a week of playing kissyface.

That is why I got Bang and started reading this forum. Here in the jungle the men are all cavemen or beta so you have to have another plan to set yourself apart or you might as well stock up on Jergens. Obviously I need to keep reading.

Post: #41

(04-09-2011 03:21 PM)Selva Wrote:  

(04-09-2011 01:51 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  Isn't Gunwitch the same fat bastard who shot some chick in the face a few months ago? Sounds very similar to Mode One with being High Risk/High Reward. The thing with Caveman like methods is that at least from my experience and from what I have personally observed is that they only really work on women who are really feeling you from the get go.

I knew I was going to deal with this when I mentioned his name, but I am giving credit where credit is due. Gunwitch laid out a plan back in the day for a guy who just wants to fuck without jacking his jaws or performing magic tricks

To make it work you really have to calibrate her interest. I know within a couple minutes if a girl is down to fuck and if so I keep working. If I think she is probably down but not tonight I'll lay the groundwork, then disengage and try to caveman her again some other time.

If I think she will take some work I go into a modified beta lameass mode that gets me nothing, like the 20 y.o. cutie who shut me down yesterday after a week of playing kissyface.

That is why I got Bang and started reading this forum. Here in the jungle the men are all cavemen or beta so you have to have another plan to set yourself apart or you might as well stock up on Jergens. Obviously I need to keep reading.

i use a similar style to this that works wonders in brazil