(10-06-2014 11:53 AM)gadabout Wrote:  Had a similar experience with a couple of existing & ex-forum members who turned out to be huge cock blockers with terrible game who's online persona was nothing like in real life. As a result I kind of lost my confidence in the forum as a whole because I just can't believe what I read anymore. Shame because I am sure there are lot of like minded guys on here that I'd probably get along with.

^ Maybe it's better to just avoid gaming when hanging out with a fellow member? I'm not sure. I understand the need to calibrate each other's game and see whether the online persona matches real life but I can see how it might create problems.

Doesn't anyone just grab a beer anymore?

Some people try to impress fellow forum members they meet, they want to show off their level of game, even if it means showing it off by trying to take away the girls the other guy wants to get.

I've been guilty of this at least once, then I realized that nobody gives a damn what my level of game is, everybody is focused on their skill only and they only care if you fuck up their night.

gadabout's post is. probably how feel after getting pumped and dumped by a couple guys that they gave their phone numbers, that seemed like relationship material.

or meeting straight up sketchy dudes.that seemed legit online.

now the chicks are jaded and don't wanna give their numbers out..or wanna talk forever before meeting up

I know some of you may be weary about meeting other forum members, and with justified hesitation. I have met many many people off here, everyone from Roosh to newbies who have only a few posts. Overall, it has been a very positive experience, and the number of people I regret meeting I can count on less than half the fingers of one hand.

The members I meet generally fall in one of four categories:

- Members I never want to see again, and actually create a net negative: very very few here, probably 5%
- Members I meet and are nice guys, just not guys I mesh with personality wise: probably 20% or so
- Members I meet and are nice guys, I enjoy hanging out with them from time to time and always welcome a meet up here and there: 60%
- Members I actually become very good friends with, talk to all the time, head out with as much as possible, ping them for life advice/game advice: 15%

You simply never know, but you can make a decent guess based on their writing and posts. Another thing about this forum is that you are with like-minded people who enjoy the same aspects of life and are very focused and successful for the most part.

I've have a few guys I've been friends with for years, who have met my family now. Others would be if it wasn't for geographic distance. This shit can run deep.

Be weary, but don't discount the chance of meeting some awesome people on here.

Just think...

The Midland TX guys are living a 24/7 RVF meet-up for months now. I bet it's reality show worthy.

I met the infamous Dash Global twice, once in Asia and once in his home town, TOP THAT! Then there was this guy who I met in BKK, he turned out to be a bit of a weirdo but overall, my experience meeting RVF guys has been pretty good.

I hung out with another member here on the forum. Great guy and enjoyed the conversations. Watching him game was incredible. Mad respect for guys like him who move that effortlessly through crowds.

I'll be honest though, my game sucks. Night game especially. I'm more of a hang out and invite people around type of guy. I stick to my social circles. I guess i probably fall into the "good looking guy game" group. I use my looks and charm to weasel my way in. The way he did it though was freaking incredible though. My game is a C/C-, his was a solid A.

While being a game forum primarily, i'm more into the gritty debates and intellectual sharpening that goes on here. This forum is really the only rabble rousing I get in my day. The majority of the people I know are either women or vag whipped guys.

What other outlet do I have for my opinions? Before I was absolutely alone and thought i was crazy, at least here I have like minded guys who are smart enough to throw a "dude bro chill out".

I don't think i'd enjoy gaming with another member. My interest in picking up chicks waxes and waves depending on what i'm interested in. I would however enjoy hanging out with a forum member with my group of friends and just shooting the shit. Real life red pill discussions are the bomb.

If we're all coming out and being honest

(10-06-2014 01:45 PM)scotian Wrote:  I met the infamous Dash Global twice, once in Asia and once in his home town, TOP THAT! Then there was this guy who I met in BKK, he turned out to be a bit of a weirdo but overall, my experience meeting RVF guys has been pretty good.

Damn...how'd that go? (Dash)

Only regrets about meeting RVF-ers was missing out on one in Seattle (Hallasan) and another in Sao Paulo (Ringo).

Sure there will be many more to come....

(10-06-2014 02:04 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 01:45 PM)scotian Wrote:  I met the infamous Dash Global twice, once in Asia and once in his home town, TOP THAT! Then there was this guy who I met in BKK, he turned out to be a bit of a weirdo but overall, my experience meeting RVF guys has been pretty good.

Damn...how'd that go? (Dash)

Only regrets about meeting RVF-ers was missing out on one in Seattle (Hallasan) and another in Sao Paulo (Ringo).

Sure there will be many more to come....

Dash is a decent guy, his real life personality doesn't really match his online one, he's a bit reserved and pretty chill, which I didn't really expect, I thought he was gonna be a complete whack job in person but he's legit, a cool guy to have drinks with.

To go for a move like this in a legit bar, it really shows a complete lack of social skills. It remembers me of a friend of mine who was kind of a nocturn dug addict, who sometimes asks me to leave the club to get some coke precisely at the moment our stakes are higher. It's the type of guys you really don't want as your partners in crime. In relation to the forum, he still probably is above average

(10-06-2014 02:28 PM)Frank Mackey Wrote:  To go for a move like this in a legit bar, it really shows a complete lack of social skills. It remembers me of a friend of mine who was kind of a nocturn dug addict, who sometimes asks me to leave the club to get some coke precisely at the moment our stakes are higher. It's the type of guys you really don't want as your partners in crime. In relation to the forum, he still probably is above average

I agree. If a guy really wanted to do P4P (I'm not judging), there are a million places he could go where that could be easily done with no real negative impact on other people. What Kamaki did either showed a complete lack of common sense and/or social skills or he intentionally cockblocked Roosh. I would have reacted the same way Roosh did. Foreigners in other countries have enough of a negative reputation as being sex tourists without having a guy who really is a sex tourist making the situation worse.

Bit suprised but not shocked about all this. Can't believe the guy wouldn't have the sense to just tone it down when out with Roosh but then again I guess a lot of people on the forum saw it coming and people can't help be themselves.

I'll admit that I enjoyed many of Kamaki's posts given how outrageous and/or funnily worded they were and his interesting (to say the least) views on EE. But meeting up with Roosh, trying to offer up P4P on a legit girl and cockblocking him in the process is just so far out there it's almost crazy. The forum is about game and if you're winging the main man you should have the sense and decency to be extra cautious and a good wing to say the least.

Quote: Can't believe the guy wouldn't have the sense to just tone it down when out with Roosh Huh

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I'm sure there are multiple fake "personalities" on this forum.

We try to spot them but a few always slip through through the cracks.

Mixx was once the one most highly repped members of the forum. He was a "fake" personality. (still, we did learn some things from the "personality")

G Manifesto is widely popular and he admitted that his "persona" was an "artistic expression". (I enjoyed and learned from the "persona".)

Three have been many others.

Many people lie in real life. The anonymity of the internet only increases the lying, I believe.

Greek Kamaki had some interesting things to say. I'm sure some guys learned a thing or two.

But, I'm glad he was exposed, For me, truth is superior to entertainment. And, truth is stranger than fiction.

I remember one guy who called GK out immediately and had a large discussion about his shady gift giving and money throwing techniques. This discussion went so far that names were called and temp bans were placed. There was even a thread where posters could discuss and/or vote to keep GK on or of the forum.
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-10999.html

The majority wanted to believe in GK's extrordinairy game and kept praising him for it while in my opinion even a blind man could see his whoremongering. This has always baffled and me.

The guy who called GK our from the start was me and it is with great pleasure I can say to you naieve believers "told you so!"

Truth be told: he has a good sense of humor.

Neil.

The guy had a lot of rambling and weird posts, not that surprised. I am surprised at all the reps, but they do seem to be given out for lots of different reasons.

I've met some whoremongers over the years, particularly while living in Bangkok. In the beginning, I didn't hold it against them, but after a while I stopped completely to associate with them, since they unfortunately often have a very negative and cynical worldview, while at the same time living an illusion. Often they will concoct these grand theories to fit their world view. It does rub off if you go along and you feel like you have a stamp on your forehead saying 'whoremonger' when around normal girls. I can understand Roosh on that one for sure.

I don't really care about the level of game of people if going out hunting lizards, if they're just decent people and not completely socially clueless and cockblocking. I'm not on the rep game or notch count league. As long as I'm having a good time and we're hitting up some local cute girls, then all is good. Wouldn't be apprehensive about meeting people from here at all, hope to do so some time in the future.

(10-05-2014 03:55 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  The persian and the greek are never well in intermixing. Eternal grudge held for the invasions of Alexander.

bahahahahahaha
I can't believe no one has commented on this yet - perfect response!

(10-06-2014 04:30 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I'm sure there are multiple fake "personalities" on this forum.

We try to spot them but a few always slip through through the cracks.

Mixx was once the one most highly repped members of the forum. He was a "fake" personality. (still, we did learn some things from the "personality")

G Manifesto is widely popular and he admitted that his "persona" was an "artistic expression". (I enjoyed and learned from the "persona".)

Three have been many others.

Many people lie in real life. The anonymity of the internet only increases the lying, I believe.

Greek Kamaki had some interesting things to say. I'm sure some guys learned a thing or two.

But, I'm glad he was exposed, For me, truth is superior to entertainment. And, truth is stranger than fiction.

You realize GK never pretended to be otherwise?

He sponsors girls. When he was younger he gamed girls. I think he was quite honest. He said all of this in the past. No big expose here. Since everyone knew this..no harm done. He spoke in the travel thread NOT the gaming thread..thank god!

Hooligan Hairy said GK culturally sees things different but who knows, seems a lot of the guys from that area are similar.. TBH I only think that he generalized too much..way to much. It was as if he saw them as robots and that everyone had to learn how a girl will behave differently based on longitude and lattitude of the date of the menstrual cycle.

Many of his points were in BANG Ukraine..so obviously Roosh saw eye to eye about a few things. I think as long as he didn't lecture or advise p4p that he was harmless on this site.

If one takes the stand that a guy who 'sponsors' girls or talks about it is bad in countries where it is common(FSU, Thailand), one could also extend the list to include married guys, guys with less than 3 girlfriends at one time, and certainly those who buy girls drinks in bars. Has anyone read some of the 'fashion ' threads here?(a guy once recommended male leotards). Obviously all beta-ish from some angles. Looking at this realistically he is guilty of being a bad wing with bad social skills to boot.

Go figure a guy looking for hookers is a bad wing..who would ever have thought that! lol. I am not making fun of the situation , and it was great to see what his 'game' really is, but personally I think he shouldn't have been banned since he was 'only being himself' and 'acting' like most on here expected he would act. Seems most posters who 'knew him' are NOT shocked except for the fact he acted so in front of the forum owner.

Plus bros before hoes and all of that. At least he wasn't selling a product like some of the others who have been exposed before.

He should have just been given a 'gag' order stating he can only give relevant logistical info in his posts.

Quote:ll admit that I enjoyed many of Kamaki's posts given how outrageous and/or funnily worded they were and his interesting (to say the least) views on EE. But meeting up with Roosh, trying to offer up P4P on a legit girl and cockblocking him in the process is just so far out there it's almost crazy. The forum is about game and if you're winging the main man you should have the sense and decency to be extra cautious and a good wing to say the least.

True...but he has no game or wing man skills. He uses Baltic Power as he calls it. If you remember his explanation of BP( his not mine lol)...it seems to be a very aggressive, assertive, SOLO move that he says makes him dominant and overpowers everyone else. He certainly showed us that his game hurts those around him .

In the end BP seems to be the most beta of game because it shows although he sees women as meat, that they have value and can extract from men. Ultimately his game
in regular places hurts others. Either the chicks think foreigners are pigs or they learn to use guy for something other than his wit and charm.

(10-06-2014 04:31 PM)Spike Wrote:  .

Neil.

Update please!

I imagine that a few of us, myself included, could tell some epic stories about meeting members who turned out different than expected. My experience with meeting someone with a colorful online personality was kind of like Roosh's with GK, in that all the signs were there in his posts, but you hope for the best regardless and it doesn't always pay off.

(10-06-2014 01:30 PM)slubu Wrote:  ....I have met many many people off here, everyone from Roosh to newbies who have only a few posts. Overall, it has been a very positive experience, and the number of people I regret meeting I can count on less than half the fingers of one hand.
..........
Be weary, but don't discount the chance of meeting some awesome people on here.

I agree with this comment.
I met two guys with less than 5 post on the forum and both great dudes.

(10-06-2014 04:31 PM)Spike Wrote:  The majority wanted to believe in GK's extrordinairy game and kept praising him for it while in my opinion even a blind man could see his whoremongering. This has always baffled and me.

The guy who called GK our from the start was me and it is with great pleasure I can say to you naieve believers "told you so!"

You weren't the only one haha
But I think this might be a image you were looking for

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If you guys still think G is Rob Wiser after all your posts here, and after how badly misinformed some of the other "unmaskings" have been (i.e. Fisto, 20nation) I really question your critical thinking.

(10-06-2014 07:26 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 06:38 PM)Soma Wrote:  

(10-06-2014 04:30 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  G Manifesto is widely popular and he admitted that his "persona" was an "artistic expression". (I enjoyed and learned from the "persona".)

You mean the persona wasn't just internet marketing to sell the MACK Tactics ebook?

If you guys still think G is Rob Wiser after all your posts here, and after how badly misinformed some of the other "unmaskings" have been (i.e. Fisto, 20nation) I really question your critical thinking.

Don't forget the Tuthmosis "unmasking." Someone at the Naughty Nomad Forum just posted another picture of "Tuthmosis."