Post: #1

The game is only played by those who can actually play. That is to say, there are men out here who can get women, and there are women out here who men want to get. Those people are playing the game. Everybody else is at worst an interference, like a streaker who decides to run onto the field at halftime, and at best a spectator, watching you and hating from the sidelines, hoping that you lose so they can feel better about themselves.

Amongst the segment of women who men actually want to get, a sorority of women has quietly formed called "The Confidence Killers".

Confidence killers are fairly attractive women who are typically aged between 30-40. They have ridden the cock carousel in a variety of ways, mostly due to the fact that they have character flaws, so men will fuck them, and leave them where they found them. Their inability to belong to something while successfully sucking the other party into their world of misery, fuels their despise towards men, mostly high-quality men because those are the ones they truly desire, but know that they can't keep them around.

They're just not good enough.

So what happens when you, Mr. High-Quality Man, encounter a confidence killer?

First, she will put on a full-court press assault to win you. You are the man of her dreams. She will fall in love quickly. Then after some short period of time, she'll remind herself that there's no way she can continue on this path, and the best thing for her to do will be to hurt you so she can protect herself.

This moment typically occurs right after the first time you are intimate with her.

What will you do?

You will think that the relationship has more to it than it really does, and you will point to the level of chemistry that has been demonstrated thus far, and you will rationalize trying to figure the situation out. She will say things like, "I'm scared", "I've been hurt before", and you will try to assuage her concerns.

She really does like you, after all, you are the man of her dreams. So chances are she will keep moving forward, but two things will happen.

1. She will continue to remind you how wonderful you are, but she'll never be as open with you about her feelings as she was at the beginning.

2. She will start negging you.

The negging will throw you off because up until it starts, all you've heard is shit that sounds like you're the best thing since the invention of the wheel.

Why is she negging you?

The negging is her way to keep herself from falling too hard for you. It's the reasons she gives herself for not really wanting you and why it will never work.

Now, let's go back to the beginning, because you really have to understand what's going on here.

The confidence killer knows exactly who you are; she knows exactly what you're about. She knows that you don't really want her, you may want her in your life in some capacity, but you're just extracting what you want from her, without there really being what she wants in it for her. She knows that's as good as it's going to get, and she hates you for it.

So the confidence killer is the confidence killer because she has you playing a twisted game, in which she's the one being used for whatever it is you're using her for, mostly sex, while she's the one who develops the feelings for someone she can never have, so she's actively tries to re-engineer the situation into one in which you become the person who gets rejected, with the idea that you, the better person, will find yourself below her, the undesired.

Younger men who deal with older women will encounter the most vicious confidence killers. A guy who's in his late 20s, and has some shit going for himself couldn't possibly want some bitch in her late 30s who has three kids from two different guys and is recently divorced. But that won't stop him from wanting to tear it up from the back. Shit, she wants you to tear it up from the back, but she also wants to find herself back in an institution in which she belongs to something and that something has to deal with the misery that she has allowed to permeate her existence, and you're just not having it.

She will point to you being younger than her, less mature, and not being ready for the responsibility of all the baggage she's prepared to hoist upon your shoulders, but she knows the truth; she's just not good enough.

Think about the resentment she must feel; your dreams are going to come true, and someone else who isn't her is going to have an opportunity to be a part of them, meanwhile, while her dream is dead. It's really a reminder of how delusional she is about her own reality.

When a woman is getting pumped and dumped, it's the final word on where her value to a man lies. A high-quality woman is valuable land where a man wants to hoist his flag. A low-quality woman is worthless land where there is a "for sale" sign firmly entrenched, and there are no interested parties.

Beware, the confidence killer will try to make you believe, that you couldn't afford her anyway, and she rather have someone else possess something that you didn't want to begin with.

Post: #2

Wow, I'm surprised with the timing of this thread in relation to the happenings in my own dating life.

I'm 28 and I recently got contacted by this very bangable 35 year old 7 on POF(yeah, low class hub I know, but I stick out as a high value guy on there so get contacted by the highest of the low class!), a teacher and a single mom. A couple of back and forths later she gave me her number, made tentative plans to meet but then she throws a shit test about me being younger which I overcame and we met near a beach for coffee. In addition, she had mentioned that "she's not looking for anything serious", so I thought of it as an easy bang and went ahead.

In person, she was around a 6.5, great body and ofcourse she did not put any effort in making herself look better. Talk for about 20 minutes at a cafe, then I suggested we check out the beach, thinking it'd be easy to escalate there. There was a trail leading down the beach and it was a little rocky so I offered her my hand, thinking this would establish physical comfort and help escalate faster. Now the bitch sternly turns down holding my hand, never ever happened to me especially if the walk was not smooth, but I said whatever. Further down the trail, she slipped twice, but kept saying she knows how to walk down a trail and is very athletic. Whatever, so far.

Now I must mention, I was a little tired that day and not at the top of my game and she wasn't attractive enough to pull out my strongest game so I was taking it easy. Start walking on the beach, I'm driving the convo. About 10 minutes later, hit a pause in the convo where she announces "we're different people and it's not going to work out". I was like okay, whatever lets start heading back then. Then she follows it up with "I really didn't like when you offered to hold my hand on the walk down, I'm a really independent person and don't need to be courted"! I swear I'm not making this up, exactly her words!

I was laughing in amusement. How damaged and delusional these 30 somethings bitches are! And perhaps as a pattern, I have never done well with them(especially if they are mid to late 30's), have a much easier time with much hotter 20 somethings.

Post: #3

Nothing to do you whatsoever, Screw her.

Post: #4

That's why I don't even talk with single women over 35 (close family members are exception of course).

Post: #5

I think there is a dynamic with many women in their mid to late thirties, particularly those that have no kids or close family, whereby they decide that men are to blame for this (rather than the fact that many of them have been riding the c0ck carousel hard for ten plus years) and so tend to harbour a resentment of sorts for men under the surface, something you don't tend to get with women in their twenties or even early thirties.
In many cases, I've found they are really not worth the grief they will give you.
If you can get a few quick in and out pump and dumps, or establish a low maintenance FWB situation, then great, but in general my advice would be steer clear of these broads.

Post: #6

I agree completely with the OP.

Whenever I find myself around women of this age group, I love deliberately dropping comments that shatter their universe. Since I am not actively trying to fuck anyone in this age group I figure its good for amusement.

Examples:
Her: so and so female celeb is still single omg blah blah
Me: yeah she needs to find a man before she dries up inside and no one wants her anymore

Her: I can't date a man with lower income than me
Me: I couldn't date a girl past 24. They just lose that sparkle in their eyes and don't have that feminine essence. *glances her over real quick with a disappointed look*

Post: #7

It's not even exclusive to 30-40 year olds, not by a long shot. If any girl feels that she isn't good enough for you, she will start to do the above. At 15 years old I had my first girlfriend, and she attempted to kill my confidence in the most manipulative ways possible. But in the end, after fucking her multiple times out of the relationship just for fun, the truth came out that she didn't believe she was good enough for me, and I won the petty little game.

Beware any girl that starts to dog on you in this manner, because it will send you to hell in a hand basket. That was one of the most bitter times of my life, but thank god for it, it brought me to the red pill and where I am now.

Post: #8

This year I've had 6 girls in the 28-30 range. Exactly what you described above. It was starting to become a pattern with these girls and I couldn't quite put a finger on it. After reading the post it's exactly what is going on. Lesson learned. Don't date above 25 or single moms.

Post: #9

I had two of this type of women going at once and amazingly, it appears as though both of them decided to cut off all contact with me at about the same time that Jariel made his original post. Both always answered my calls and promptly responded to my texts but that all stopped last night. One thing that I don't think was mentioned here is that they generally realize that a guy with strong game is unlikely to start bombarding them with nasty/threatening calls and text messages or stalk them after they cut the guy off, which makes the women all the more likely to do what they do.

Post: #10

(09-25-2014 09:43 PM)jariel Wrote:  A high-quality woman is valuable land where a man wants to hoist his flag. A low-quality woman is worthless land where there is a "for sale" sign firmly entrenched, and there are no interested parties.

Quoted for truth.