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(06-27-2015 03:31 PM)RickyWax Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 12:37 PM)jariel Wrote:  Miami is known as the city of beautiful people, so what happened to all of them while you were there?

Unless you spent your entire trip scoping cracked-out street whores in Overtown, I can't possibly take your comment seriously.

The city has a few small areas that are highly concentrated with dimes, and the rest of the city has a high percentage of at least fuckable women of all ages.

I've never stated that there weren't any attractive women. There are hot women but overall the average talent was low. Most of the women I saw at clubs were 6s at best.

Now I picked Miami was because like you said Miami is the city of "beautiful" people but I didn't see that. What I saw was a number of women who were probably 20lbs overweight with most of the women at 5-6 at best. And seeing 8s was rare.

For me I'm not a body guy so there weren't many girls I would consider fuckable there. And what is a "dime"? For me I didn't see that many 8s let alone 9s. Looks are also subjective. Some value ass, some value body, some face. Say for example a guy values ass. A woman with a nice wide ass but is a 5 face may be seen as a 7/8.

Instead of making broad statements about the average talent in Miami being low, can you please name names of some clubs and restaurants you went to there and name some of the neighborhoods where you spent your time? That may help us understand your posts a little better. As for Sweden, what cities did you visit there? How long did you stay there? What venues did you go to there?
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As a tourist, who has been to Miami for 3 weekends in the last 9 months or so, I can see what RickyWax is saying from the standpoint of clubs. I hit Mansion, Nikki Beach, Automatic Slims, and Dream, Clevelander, and Mangos, and thought the average would be higher although it was still pretty good especially compared to my hometown. That's only a fraction of what the city has to offer though so I won't pretend like I made an exhaustive run down on the city. My expectations were probably too high and I didn't consult a local on here beforehand, but the talent in the actual venues paled in comparison to what I saw on the beach and around the city. Mansion and Dream especially were disappointing, but since I love hip hop these were must visits for me. That's not to say there weren't very attractive women in the clubs I went to because there were a few dimes, but of course some did get snatched up by the cats with tables very quickly, so I'm sure that factored into both of our experiences. IMO if you're a tourist staying on South Beach with limited mobility, the beach is where its at not only for talent, but in terms of girls being receptive. I'm sure some of the Miami vets can chime in as well with better insight.

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(06-27-2015 08:56 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  As a tourist, who has been to Miami for 3 weekends in the last 9 months or so, I can see what RickyWax is saying from the standpoint of clubs. I hit Mansion, Nikki Beach, Automatic Slims, and Dream, Clevelander, and Mangos, and thought the average would be higher although it was still pretty good especially compared to my hometown. That's only a fraction of what the city has to offer though so I won't pretend like I made an exhaustive run down on the city. My expectations were probably too high and I didn't consult a local on here beforehand, but the talent in the actual venues paled in comparison to what I saw on the beach and around the city. Mansion and Dream especially were disappointing, but since I love hip hop these were must visits for me. That's not to say there weren't very attractive women in the clubs I went to because there were a few dimes, but of course some did get snatched up by the cats with tables very quickly, so I'm sure that factored into both of our experiences. IMO if you're a tourist staying on South Beach with limited mobility, the beach is where its at not only for talent, but in terms of girls being receptive.

It's not stated enough on the forum that South Beach is not the most consistent place. What I mean by that is that January and February are the best months that I've seen and the summer months are the worst months. If you don't like what you see in South Beach, it is probably because you are there on an off week or off month and the solution is to take a trip to Brickell or to another part of Miami-Dade. The last time I went to South Beach, I spent almost all of my time there (eleven days. A weekend is much too short and I'm convinced that is why many guys get blanked in Miami) because it was January, there was no shortage of quality girls, and my rejection rate in South Beach is extremely low, especially when compared to other parts of Miami-Dade. I've never been to Dream, Mansion, or Automatic Slims, and I see tons of grenades waiting in line to get into those places, especially in the summer. The beach, the street, restaurants, and maybe the gym is where a lot of the action is in South Beach. How many people realize that?
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(06-27-2015 09:15 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  The beach, the street, restaurants, and maybe the gym is where a lot of the action is in South Beach. How many people realize that?

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(06-27-2015 08:56 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  As a tourist, who has been to Miami for 3 weekends in the last 9 months or so, I can see what RickyWax is saying from the standpoint of clubs. I hit Mansion, Nikki Beach, Automatic Slims, and Dream, Clevelander, and Mangos, and thought the average would be higher although it was still pretty good especially compared to my hometown. That's only a fraction of what the city has to offer though so I won't pretend like I made an exhaustive run down on the city. My expectations were probably too high and I didn't consult a local on here beforehand, but the talent in the actual venues paled in comparison to what I saw on the beach and around the city. Mansion and Dream especially were disappointing, but since I love hip hop these were must visits for me. That's not to say there weren't very attractive women in the clubs I went to because there were a few dimes, but of course some did get snatched up by the cats with tables very quickly, so I'm sure that factored into both of our experiences. IMO if you're a tourist staying on South Beach with limited mobility, the beach is where its at not only for talent, but in terms of girls being receptive. I'm sure some of the Miami vets can chime in as well with better insight.

The problem for tourists is that they experience the city like tourists which causes them to cross the paths of other tourists.

I try to show people when they come here how to do things like a local, which is why in none of my posts do I co-sign spots like Nikki Beach and Dream.

I talked about the South Beach club game rather extensively in the Ballers show thread on the EE board, a game most tourists will be playing from behind for a variety of reasons.
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(06-27-2015 08:14 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Instead of making broad statements about the average talent in Miami being low, can you please name names of some clubs and restaurants you went to there and name some of the neighborhoods where you spent your time? That may help us understand your posts a little better.

Why humor him?

It's hard to take a comment that "Miami girls are ugly" as a serious comment, especially from a tourist who's mostly going to experience SoBe because that's what tourists come here to do.

I don't hit SoBe hard anymore because I'm a local who knows better, but even if I were not a "body guy", I'd have a hard time stating the women here are ugly.

You have to make an effort to go to parts of the city where you'd see the types of women who wouldn't even able to get into SoBe clubs, something that again, a tourist wouldn't do.
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(06-27-2015 04:25 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I would say Cuba..

There are lots of 5-7's but seldom did I see an 8-10. Of course, the easy explanation is that the hottest girls figure out a way to get off the island or connect with the rich 1%

But considering the Cuban heritage of mixed races, I would expect a better overall average quality.

There is a lack of access to cosmetics, quality dentistry etc, which brings a lot of girls down from their true potential.

I usually invest in a girl I date their for a while...extensions, nails, keratine etc...to try to maximize their looks.

Also, to the guy saying Miami sucks for girls...he must be blind or not be into Latinas whatsoever.
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IMO, the hottest Italians are in NYC and they are usually mixed with Irish, British or German.
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(02-12-2016 04:01 AM)vilevigilant Wrote:  IMO, the hottest Italians are in NYC and they are usually mixed with Irish, British or German.

Is it me or are Italian Argentine and Italian American women both better looking than Italian women from Italy? Women from Italy are nicer and more friendly than Argentines. Hands down. Also, I think the Italian/Northern European mixed people like me are much more common in New Jersey than in New York. In New Jersey, we're all over the place. Probably 90% of the people I know fit into that category.
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(06-27-2015 09:49 PM)Travesty Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 09:15 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  The beach, the street, restaurants, and maybe the gym is where a lot of the action is in South Beach. How many people realize that?

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RE: Places with Surprisingly Ugly Girls
Japan, South Korea, Philippines, and Thailand

Everyone always rave about Japanese and Korean women being attractive. But when I went to both Japan and South Korea, I didn't see that many attractive Japanese and Korean women.

When I was at Japan, I noticed the majority of the women that I saw on the streets are not that attractive. Even the Japanese women that I saw at Tokyo are not that attractive on average. Few are attractive, most are not. To me, Japanese women are overrated. The only good things about Japanese women are they are very clean, have pleasant personalities, and well dressed.

South Korea is also similar story with Japan, I didn't see any physically attractive women there, even at Seoul. And I also don't like the fashion, I find Korean women fashion to be rather too artificial looking. Korean women are overrated, they and the Japanese women are most overrated.

Thai women and Filipinas are also nowhere as good looking as people portrayed them. I find the majority of Filipinas to be unattractive, I have met a lot of them at Singapore. Even my father who had been to Philippines a year ago told me that many Filipinas are not attractive, except for the mixed-blooded Filipinas. Thai women are surprisingly plain looking, even the Thai women that I saw at Bangkok are plain looking.
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I don't understand where does the hype of Japanese and Korean women come from, they are so overrated. Even Japanese and Korean men are overrated. I am not a big fan of Korean men because they look too girly and they are sexist. Japanese men are well-dressed and nice, but physically speaking not as attarctive as people said they are.
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Guys don't go to the Phils for the hotness of the women, they go to rack up a huge notch count of 5s and 6s. Everyone knows this is your typical Filipina so it's rated just as it should be.
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Fortaleza, Recife, Belem, Manaus - for every 1 hot girl you have 5 average-looking and 40 really really ugly ones. Never been to the Phils, but I guess it's even worse.
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(02-12-2016 04:22 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  
(02-12-2016 04:01 AM)vilevigilant Wrote:  IMO, the hottest Italians are in NYC and they are usually mixed with Irish, British or German.

Is it me or are Italian Argentine and Italian American women both better looking than Italian women from Italy? Women from Italy are nicer and more friendly than Argentines. Hands down. Also, I think the Italian/Northern European mixed people like me are much more common in New Jersey than in New York. In New Jersey, we're all over the place. Probably 90% of the people I know fit into that category.

Coming from the US and now living in Europe this has been my experience as well... I find the Italian American women way hotter than the actual Italian girls in Italy..
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Almaty in Kazakhstan, native Kazakh girls weren't as attractive as I would have imagined, I found the chechens, tatars, ukrainian, russian, etc much better.

Romania, outside of Bucharest the talent was much lower. I did like the mixed gypsy/white girls though.

Jamaica, im not into black women but i thought I would find mostly sexy big booty bitches, sadly it was horrible. I was in kingston btw.
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Asian girls are cute when young, and then take a header off of a cliff face first as they age. As the fat recedes from their face, their dental structure and the rest of the bone structure becomes prominent. It's not classically beautiful in the manner that westerners are used to. But this generalization doesn't always hold, especially among mixed women or women that take care of themselves.

Still, really cute when young.
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^ So hard these days to find test cases for how white women age without being on a 20 year cock carousel next to an open bar.
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My bedroom last night...
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(07-13-2016 08:48 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ^ So hard these days to find test cases for how white women age without being on a 20 year cock carousel next to an open bar.

White women are hit and miss in the West, even assuming optimal genetics. The American lifestyle seems to make them all hit an early wall. With (Notheast) Asian women in Asia, it seems to be more of a matter of natural aging and so they more often look good into their fifties; especially if they work out even a little. Though,when they fall off of a cliff they really fall.

This cartoon is funny because it's often seems to be pretty accurate.

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Fat, ugly, masculine women with sun damaged skin and man-hating princess syndrome?

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(07-13-2016 10:52 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  [Image: SeHM7.jpg]

That cartoon kind of misses the point though. By the time the asian wife with a 20+ year age gap is 60 the husband is already 80+ and safe and sound in bed awaiting the warm embrace of death while she tends to his needs. She was also monogamous and had healthy kids with him early on in life when she was a young tight 20 something year old and was around during her prime of her youth for her husband. It's pretty damn hard to find a traditional western women with these values.

In short.. local asian women > western women still.
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Jamaica. I thought the women there were beasts. I didn't really see a girl there that peaked my interest.
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(07-14-2016 03:05 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  That cartoon kind of misses the point though. By the time the asian wife with a 20+ year age gap is 60 the husband is already 80+ and safe and sound in bed awaiting the warm embrace of death while she tends to his needs. She was also monogamous and had healthy kids with him early on in life when she was a young tight 20 something year old and was around during her prime of her youth for her husband. It's pretty damn hard to find a traditional western women with these values.

In short.. local asian women > western women still.

Good luck with a 20 year gap outside of the Philippines and SE Asia. You aren't likely to have that kind of success in Japan or S. Korea, where you can find some good looking women if you pick through the pool. I don't find most Asians attractive outside of those nations, and even then the numbers are in favor of ugly women. Is a Western man/native woman 20 year gap a thing in China? I have no idea, but my intuition says that it's probably unusual; at least for any woman who is good looking and/or not a low-educated farmer's daughter.

The situation that you propose sounds ideal, but a lot of these women are personality disordered nightmares irl. I agree that many women are, but Asian women tend to have the psycho brand cornered in a special way. Finding one that 1. is okay looking and a lot younger 2. Is not disordered and 3. will pair up with a westerner for marriage is pretty rare in my experience.

That being said, they exist but, from what I've seen, they tend to gravitate toward younger good looking guys.

Anyway, there are all kinds. These are merely generalizations based on my limited observation. My personal preference would be for an Iranian girl if I was going to go for the non plus ultra feminine foreigner with solid values, with EE girls from certain nations being the next best opportunity. This is controlling for looks. Uncontrolled for looks, my preference is for Euro-girls though Iranian women can also get pretty hot. You just have to be okay with a little more body hair.
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The quality was pretty low in Nicaragua but still there were plenty of bangable women. It's amazing what not being fat will do. Even though they were uglier than the average American, because they were not fat, there were still more bangable women on average.
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