(09-12-2014 10:44 AM)bigbait Wrote: Girls
1. I feel like the consensus on the forum is that a typical Jakarta experience is to bang an endless stream of 5s. This was not my experience. Yes, I banged a few 5s due to lapses in screening. I also banged a lot of girls who I thought were 8s and above. I feel good remembering them as I write this!
2. I loved the variety of girls in Jakarta. I banged Indonesian, Chinese and Arab girls. I banged Muslims, Catholics and Atheists. They had different looks and bodies. It was fun to bang a rail thin girl in the afternoon and a girl with huge tits at night.
3. I was able to have nine dates a week by working and planning ahead, but I had a high flake rate. It surprised me but the flakes were literally always considerate and initiated rescheduling. The best part was that almost every time that I was flaked on I found another girl for that night at the last minute. The last minute arrangements actually turned out to be some of the most memorable experiences and I was often really glad to get flaked on because it was more of an adventure.
4. Many girls seemed open to being fucked even though they have a boyfriend. They gave me their facebook even though they were posting photos of themselves hugging their boyfriend on a daily basis. I chose to avoid these girls just because I thought they might be drama.
5. It was possible for me but very annoying to have more than one date a night because traffic is so bad. Jakarta girls are usually 30-60 minutes late for anything, and they have little remorse for it because most locals are the same. Then again I was usually late too because I had no interest in waiting for them.
6. I found there was no harm in asking a girl to come to my place for the first date. If she didn't want to she didn't hold it against me and she would suggest another place.
7. Location in the city seemed to be very important. The second or third question a Jakarta girl asked me, in person or online, was usually "where are you staying".
8. It seemed to be hardest to schedule dates on Friday and Saturday since most girls seemed to go out with friends every Friday and Saturday.
9. It's normal for girls to go “clubbing” on Sundays but don't be fooled this is usually a tame night.
10. I needed a lot of numbers because girls were frequently traveling to Bali, Singapore, etc.
11. If a girl was at my place she was almost always going to fuck even if she gave zero signs of interest. This included girls who swore on the Koran that they never fuck guys on the first date.
12. I often got significant resistance to sex. I endured many long speeches about how Jakarta girls are an embarrassment to the city and white men are evil for treating Jakarta girls the way they do, only to fuck the girl shortly after.
13. I did not get cockblocked even once. In fact, a girl's friends would go out of their way to help her get laid.
14. Most people in Jakarta seem to think that it is even easier for westerners to fuck Jakarta girls than it is. They think I would walk into a club or a bar and the ayam and the chickens would walk right up and start grinding me. It still took work, or at least it did for me.
Online Game
1. I needed a system for keeping track of girls, ranking them, tracking when they are out of town, which of them have boyfriends, and if I am worried about their appearance.
2. I should have always asked for her facebook or instagram before meeting. They seemed to expect it. Even if they are hot in their photos facebook and instagram told me how old the photos were.
3. I should have always asked her to send me a photo of how she looks right now before meeting her.
4. Photos were sometimes deceiving in an unexpected way. Many of the hottest girls that I was with looked only cute in their photos.
5. I mostly met girls that have some money. These girls bought me drinks, they took taxis, they had cars and some had drivers. But I usually paid and most girls seemed to expect it.
6. I needed to redefine what "close by" to my place meant. Girls would often take hour long taxi rides to see me. A large radius helped with Tinder.
Clubs
1. It seemed like an incredible number of the guys were gay and they did not cockblock.
2. I hit on many girls who were in couples and several times the guys were very friendly and introduced me to their friends.
3. I had to try a few clubs until I found one that seemed right for me.
4. Jakarta is a huge city, but it seemed small when I went clubbing or to bars. I would often see people from previous nights.
Transportation
1. I started saving hours of my life by taking ojek during times of traffic.
2. It was crucial to keep my phone from dying when I was going to be an area I didn't know well. I needed google maps.
3. Memorizing the basic bahasa required to tell a taxi driver to go left, right, straight and slow down made my life a lot easier.
4. Memorizing the names of landmarks near where I was going made my life a lot easier. Taxi drivers rarely knew street names.
5. Taxi drivers responded well to being yelled at. They often would not listen to me unless I yelled.
6. Everyone told me to only take bluebird and express taxis, but I never had any problems when I was in sketchy taxis. Then again I yelled at them constantly so they may have thought I was a little aggressive.
Hey. I am just in Jakarta and read your post. In some points I do agree with you, in others, I want to give my opinion.
Girls:
1. Yeah, there is a lot 5s and 6s, and they are really really easy to get. Some of them I fucked after 10-30 minutes of talking.
2. Absolutely agree
3/5. Same like me in my first 2 weeks. But this fact after a couple of days really started to annoy me. Actually you could have 2 dates during weekdays, what I absolutely tried to bring into reality - but its just not possible because of the girls. If you come home at 6 or 7, and you are appointed for 7.30, it will mostly end up that you will meet at 8 or 8.30. So no bang before 9-9.30 and most of the girls go to bed early (not after 11), when they have to work the next day, so they wont show up. Flake rate very high, but they always cancell, at least. There were some occasions I waited for 30-60 minutes for girls, but they still appeared. Can imagine that there are also ones, who will tell you they cant come now. It turned also out, that planning in advance is really difficult, as people here are just very spontaneous and just dont want to plan further than one or two days. You really have to get used to that, I didnt until now, so the girls here are really pissing me off when it comes to their general attitude towards dates. Make sure your date comes close to your place and dont start, before they dont tell you they are arrived. Turn the game around.
6. Hadnt that much successwith that. Almost every girl wants to meet outside (maybe its different when you have good apartment or residence, Im living just in a single room). I think best chances for that kind of bang are on weekend, as all the horny girls are going to party both days, and if they didnt find a white cock in there + are drunk, they are more open for that. I had 2 bangs like that, both from tinder), another girls came during the week, but I couldnt fuck her.
7. I think its more about value. They oftenly drive hours for you, I think thats not that important. They just want to check out, if you are rich and have a nice accomodation. Maybe they also ask because they want to know if its possible to come there without being seen and scoffed by locals.
8. Most girls do go out yeah, but in my experience, they are more open to meet on weekend. Some of them just dont like party, some of them prefer to have a safe fuck (maybe?) and some of them take it as prep for party. I really dont like those party girls, as they are just stupid and close minded (in my opinion). I asked a girl to meet, and she was open to meet actually, but she even snobed me to ask her for meeting on weekend. It was like "What?! Its Friday night, I want to party and get drunk" -> Not really my thinking.
11. Absolutely disagree. I fucked like 6-7 out of 10 girls coming to my place. I think there are three different kind of girls in here.
1) The religious ones, suffering from strict parents. They are not going to fuck at all and most of them is still virgin. But they are still open to meet strangers, at least some of them. Its probably because they feel honoured by the interest, so they are more or less playing with you. But, of course, just degreding for you, if you maybe play your best possible game, bring them to your home and they just dont care about it. Fortunately, its not that many of them, but they are often very pretty. I think I should better chose, as those girls are mostly very sceptical concerning place of appointment and plans for the date.
2) Girls, who just want to fuck. Very much of them, mostly 5s and 6s, but also a lot of 7s and 8s (i even had a few 9s), who are a little bit harder to get, but still open to fuck on first date. There are also some of the 1) girls, who just cant resist to fuck. But they will just let you fuck in their asses (religious thing). I think, compared to the poplation, that it is just a small number of girls like that. But the city is so big, that thereis still enough. But I guess that is also why you said that you always meeting the same people. I fucked a girl from Tinder and saw her one night later in X2. I have already seen 3 girls on facebook, who have the same white friend together.
3) "Normal" girls. They want to fuck, as well - but still have their rules, and maybe are open to fuck after 2-4 dates. Takes more of effort, though. Some of them are worth it, some of them not. In some cases they will try to bring you into a relationship, before fucking - but its in most cases probably still possible to fuck anyway (but needs more effort, that I mostly didnt invest, due to the huge choice of easy girls). These girls mostly have spent some time outside of Indonesia and have western behaviour. They lie less and are the girls you should go for, if you want quality girls (concerning character and looks). Still most of them show some of the bad character things Indonesian just have.
12. Hmm, yeah - some of them show that. I think its the 3rd kind girls mostly. Freezing them out could help.
13. Made different experiences. Maybe they dont get cockblocked, but especially in clubs I have the feeling, that girls are scared in front of their friends. I have been to 2 clubs (Colosseum and X2) and as there were very less people these days, almost the whole club could see you approaching. I didnt see any hook ups in both night, although I almost went home with one girl. Also had a night, where there was an Indonesian alpha, who scared of losing his girls in the group as they showed interest in me and my white friend, so he was constantly mocking the girls. Didnt understand him but I guess it was about blaming them for wanting to have sex with us...really annoying, i tried to make him a friend...but just not possible he was ridicoulous, so we quit the group finally.
Generally, I think its everything, but paradise in here. Sure, you can fuck a lot, you can fuck hot girls and everybody here will love you. But its annoying, because its just because youre white. I was in front of immigrant and saw some arabic guys leaving with goodlooking girls. We took the same elevator and I heard what they say. They behaved like little children, even the girls they had were annoyed - but still stayed with them. I thought in this moment, that these guys wouldnt get one lay in Europe for 3 years...so yeah...if you have some looks and some communication skills, you will feel it is in many cases just too easy. Additionally, the girls of category 1) and 2) absolutely dont mind to let you wait for hours and to lie to you straight into your face. If you look for reliable girls, youre definitely wrong. I war bored by the girls here after my first week, in which I fuck 8 girls/7 days. Im here for 5 weeks now, and I stopped to date as many girls as possible already after my first week. Try to find some more quality girls in here, but thats really more of a task.
If you just want to fuck, its a good place. But be careful, many of the 2) category girls dont want too dominant guys, especially when you text with them. Be more straight, a lot of them have at least a good sense of humour, if their English is good enough to understand.