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10 Conspiracy Theories That Came True
When questioning the official narrative proved crucial

10 Conspiracy Theories That Came True
by Paul Joseph Watson

Despite the fact that the term “conspiracy theory” has been weaponized by the establishment as a perjorative slur against anyone who questions the official narrative of any government pronouncement, there are innumerable examples throughout history of conspiracies that were proven to be true.

Let’s take a look at ten examples;

1) Operation AJAX and false flag terror

The notion that governments and intelligence agencies carry out acts of false flag terrorism has long been derided by the establishment media as a conspiracy theory, despite there being a plethora of historically documented instances.

After decades of denial, in August 2013 the CIA finally admitted its role in staging the coup in Iran which led to the overthrow of Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 under the umbrella of Operation AJAX.

Under AJAX, the CIA oversaw covert operations which included acts of false flag terror which claimed the lives of some 300 people.

2) Gulf of Tonkin

On August 4, 1964, President Lyndon Johnson went on national television and told the nation that North Vietnam had attacked U.S. ships.

“Repeated acts of violence against the armed forces of the United States must be met not only with alert defense, but with a positive reply. That reply is being given as I speak tonight,” Johnson declared.

Congress soon passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which provided Johnson with pre-approved authority to conduct military operations against North Vietnam. By 1969, over 500,000 troops were fighting in Southeast Asia.

Johnson and his Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara, had bamboozled Congress and the American people. In fact, North Vietnam had not attacked the USS Maddox, as the Pentagon claimed, and the “unequivocal proof” of an “unprovoked” second attack against the U.S. warship was a ruse.

3) Operation Gladio: State Sponsored Terror Blamed on the Left

Following the Second World War, the CIA and Britain’s MI6 collaborated through NATO on Operation Gladio, an effort to create a “stay behind army” to fight communism in the event of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe.

Gladio quickly transcended its original mission and became a covert terror network consisting of right wing militias, organized crime elements, agent provocateurs and secret military units. The so-called stay behind armies were active in France, Belgium, Denmark, The Netherlands, Norway, Germany, and Switzerland.

Gladio’s “Strategy of Tension”  was designed to portray leftist political groups in Europe as terrorists and frighten the populace into voting for authoritarian governments. In order to carry out this goal, Gladio operatives conducted a number of deadly terrorist attacks that were blamed on leftists and Marxists.

In August of 1980, Gladio operatives bombed a train station in Bologna, killing 85 people. Initially blamed on the Red Brigades, it was later discovered that fascist elements within the Italian secret police and Licio Gelli, the head of the P2 Masonic Lodge, were responsible for the terror attack. Other fascist groups, including Avanguardia Nazionale and Ordine Nuovo, were mobilized and engaged in terror.

Operation Gladio ultimately claimed the lives of hundreds of people across Europe.

According to Vincenzo Vinciguerra, a Gladio terrorist serving a life-sentence for murdering policemen, the reason for Gladio was simple. It was designed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security. This is the political logic that lies behind all the massacres and the bombings which remain unpunished, because the state cannot convict itself or declare itself responsible for what happened.

4) Operation Northwoods

In the covert war against the communist regime in Cuba under the CIA’s Operation Mongoose, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff unanimously proposed state-sponsored acts of terrorism in side the United States.

The plan included shooting down hijacked American airplanes, the sinking of U.S. ships, and the shooting of Americans on the streets of Washington, D.C. The outrageous plan even included a staged NASA disaster that would claim the life of astronaut John Glenn.

Reeling under the embarrassing failure of the CIA’s botched Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, president Kennedy rejected the plan in March of 1962. A few months later, Kennedy denied the plan’s author, General Lyman Lemnitzer, a second term as the nation’s highest ranking military officer.

In November of 1963, Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas.

5) The Gleiwitz Incident

The Gleiwitz incident refers to a false flag operation carried out by the Nazis on 31 August 1939 during which SS troops staged an attack on a German radio station and then blamed Polish troops.

German operatives dressed in Polish military garb seized the radio station, located near the Polish border, before broadcasting a short propaganda message in Polish. They then killed concentration camp victims who were also dressed in Polish uniforms and left them at the scene, making the incident look like an act of Polish aggression. The very next day Germany invaded Poland, with Hitler citing the incident as one of the pretexts.

Nine days before the incident, Hitler had told his generals, “I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn’t matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth.”

6) Tobacco companies deliberately added addictive chemicals to cigarettes

Conspiracies are not always of a governmental nature, they can also be targeted at consumers. As the BBC reported, tobacco companies in the United States were caught deliberately engineering cigarettes for addiction by including chemicals that artificially increased the addictive kick of the product and made it taste better.

Clive Bates, director of ASH, said the discovery exposed a “scandal in which tobacco companies deliberately use additives to make their bad products even worse”.

7) Operation Fast and Furious

Operation Fast and Furious, under which the Obama administration smuggled weapons to Mexican drug lords in an apparent effort to trace the guns and bust the drug gangs, was in fact part of a conspiracy to demonize the second amendment.

Documents obtained by CBS News in December 2011 prove that ATF agents discussed how they could tie guns involved in Mexican violence to gun dealers based in the U.S with a view to passing stricter gun control regulations.

One law enforcement source told CBS News that the emails suggested the ATF created the problem itself as part of a political ploy.

“It’s like ATF created or added to the problem so they could be the solution to it and pat themselves on the back. It’s a circular way of thinking,” the source said.

8) NSA spying & mass surveillance

In the 1990′s, when anti-surveillance activists and media personalities were warning about the NSA’s huge domestic spying operation, they were treated as paranoid conspiracy theorists.

Well over a decade before the Snowden revelations, the NSA was busy intercepting and recording all electronic communications across the entire world under the Echelon program.

In 1999, the Australian government admitted that they were part of an NSA-led global intercept and surveillance program called Echelon in alliance with the US and Britain that could listen to “every international telephone call, fax, e-mail, or radio transmission,” on the planet.

In addition, a 2001 European Parliament report stated that “within Europe all e-mail, telephone and fax communications are routinely intercepted” by the NSA.

9) CIA Drug Trafficking

The Central Intelligence Agency has been implicated in drug trafficking operations all over the world as well as domestically, most notably during the Iran-Contra affair, under which Contra personnel smuggled cocaine into the U.S. with the blessing of the CIA which was then distributed as crack cocaine in Los Angeles, with the profits being funneled back to the Contras.

Former Los Angeles Police Department officer Michael Ruppert also testified that he had witnessed CIA drug trafficking.

Top Mexican drug lords like Jesus Vicente Zambada Niebla have also gone public to assert that they were hired by the U.S. government for drug trafficking operations. There is a voluminous body of evidence that confirms the CIA and U.S. banking giants are the top players in a global drug trade worth hundreds of billions of dollars a year, information made public by the likes of Gary Webb.

10) The CIA’s heart attack gun

During Senate testimony in 1975 into illegal activities by the CIA, it was revealed that the agency had developed a dart gun capable of causing a heart attack. “At the first televised hearing, staged in the Senate Caucus Room, Chairman Church dramatically displayed a CIA poison dart gun to highlight the committee’s discovery that the CIA directly violated a presidential order by maintaining stocks of shellfish toxin sufficient to kill thousands,” a Senate web page explains.

“The lethal poison then rapidly enters the bloodstream causing a heart attack. Once the damage is done, the poison denatures quickly, so that an autopsy is very unlikely to detect that the heart attack resulted from anything other than natural causes. Sounds like the perfect James Bond weapon, doesn’t it? Yet this is all verifiable in Congressional testimony,” writes Fred Burks.

“The dart from this secret CIA weapon can penetrate clothing and leave nothing but a tiny red dot on the skin. On penetration of the deadly dart, the individual targeted for assassination may feel as if bitten by a mosquito, or they may not feel anything at all. The poisonous dart completely disintegrates upon entering the target.”

Burks suggests that Mark Pittman, a reporter who predicted the financial crisis and exposed Federal Reserve misdoings which led to a Bloomberg lawsuit against the bankster cartel, may have been assassinated with the CIA weapon.

http://www.infowars.com/10-conspiracy-th...came-true/

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Whenever I see Infowars mentioned, I rewatch this and have a laugh.

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Tendentious. Partly true, mostly bullshit framed in the usual anti-American way.

For example, the part about "Gladio operatives" bombing the Bologna station.

And why would the US care if people knew about the Gleiwitz incident? We fought a war against Nazi Germany.

A lot of crap being thrown into the forum lately. Check your facts.

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you can't dismiss this poster's claim with sheer anger. If you're not ok with it, you gotta counter argue it with logic.

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(08-28-2014 04:23 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  And why would the US care if people knew about the Gleiwitz incident? We fought a war against Nazi Germany.

I think the point of examples like that is to show that governments are most definitely capable of false flag attacks. I agree the Nazis aren't the best example, though, for the mere reason that they are so demonized that people don't take those examples seriously. They should, in my opinion.

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Americans are arrogant about their government - they've never lived under and official dictatorship and they think it will never happen. The American government has lied. It has deliberately harmed people for its own ends. It has used false flag attacks. Often people will dismiss those facts with, "But it was against the Nazis!" or "That was when the government was racist - besides it was only against Indians!".

My question is - "What happens when the US Government runs out of Indians, Nazis, and Terrorists to fight?"

They aren't just gonna retire.

Wald

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A lot of these are questionable, but this one is true:

Quote:7) Operation Fast and Furious

Operation Fast and Furious, under which the Obama administration smuggled weapons to Mexican drug lords in an apparent effort to trace the guns and bust the drug gangs, was in fact part of a conspiracy to demonize the second amendment.

Documents obtained by CBS News in December 2011 prove that ATF agents discussed how they could tie guns involved in Mexican violence to gun dealers based in the U.S with a view to passing stricter gun control regulations.

One law enforcement source told CBS News that the emails suggested the ATF created the problem itself as part of a political ploy.

“It’s like ATF created or added to the problem so they could be the solution to it and pat themselves on the back. It’s a circular way of thinking,” the source said.

At the beginning of Obama's presidency the narrative was that most guns flowing into Mexico were coming from US gun dealers (the implication being that nefarious dealers were behind it and not straw purchasers) and that we needed more gun control laws to prevent it. When Fast and Furious came to light they realized they couldn't say that shit anymore. The ATF forced gun dealers to sell guns to bad guys.

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(08-28-2014 05:37 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(08-28-2014 04:23 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  And why would the US care if people knew about the Gleiwitz incident? We fought a war against Nazi Germany.

I think the point of examples like that is to show that governments are most definitely capable of false flag attacks. I agree the Nazis aren't the best example, though, for the mere reason that they are so demonized that people don't take those examples seriously. They should, in my opinion.

False flags are definitely still possible, but citing an incident from 1939 isn't the best evidence. A stunt like that would be much more difficult to pull off today.

I'm surprised they included that over Operation PBS, or the 1954 Guatemalan coup. It ended Guatemala's first successful democracy and led to forty years of chaos that left 250,000 dead. In terms of importance Gulf of Tonkin should probably be #1, it was a known lie that led to 2,000,000 dead. I was only 13 or so when that was declassified, but I was amazed at how little Americans cared. I guess we already knew, and were distracted with the "WMDS" in Iraq, our own little Gulf of Tonkin.

I know Obama got some criticism in 2011 for delaying the declassification of the Bay of Pigs information. I forget the exact quote but it was something about how it would "confuse" Americans. I can only imagine what kind of fucked up shit went down. It's too be expected though, people in power will always be ready to break the rules, thankfully they are usually too incompetent to fully get away with it.

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Infowars, clearly a source of information with little or no bias.

Fact and background checking, gentlemen.

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Glad that you mentioned Gary Webb.

He killed himself with two bullets to the head.

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InfoWars, where crackpot conspiracy theories abound.

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I tune out as soon as I see the term "false flag."

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(08-30-2014 12:01 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I tune out as soon as I see the term "false flag."

I agree. But does the recent Anita Sarkeesian incident qualify as a "false flag"? Or would that be a different phenomenon?

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(08-30-2014 02:18 PM)ryanf Wrote:  But does the recent Anita Sarkeesian incident qualify as a "false flag"?

A majority of people also consider that it does.

Also another known recent false flag
is the taking down with rockets
by Ukrainian army
the Malaysian Airlines MH plane flight from Netherlands,
and then blamed on the "russian rebels"

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I used to argue with conspiracy theorists on other internet forums. It's impossible. Conflicting evidence just makes them believe harder.

It's a shame that they're less critical about their source material, since the crazy shit on Gary Webb seems somewhat plausible.

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(09-02-2014 03:31 AM)Hades Wrote:  I used to argue with conspiracy theorists on other internet forums. It's impossible. Conflicting evidence just makes them believe harder.

It's a shame that they're less critical about their source material, since the crazy shit on Gary Webb seems somewhat plausible.

So you're against all conspiracy theories? That's as irrational as being for all conspiracy theories. Each one has to evaluated on its own merits.

That seems to be as hard a position to take as "I don't know", but those two approaches are the most intellectually honest ones.

As far as the list in the OP goes, they are for the most part simply statements of events on the public record which are not even argued against, just ignored. For example, no one doubts NATO cooperation in false flag bombings in Europe (Operation Gladio) or the James Bond weaponry put on the public record in the Church Committee CIA hearings.

Once you study just what is on the record about the activity of the Western security/intelligence forces in the 50s to the 70s (they got a lot better at keeping things secret after the Church Committee) then you realise that their capability to mold the narrative and do all kinds of outrageous things was (and presumably, still is) off the charts.

The personal result of my study - a lot of uncertainty regarding specific events. But zero trust in the narrative served up by media and government.

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Operation Northwoods is what first sold me on the idea that the US government would indeed be willing to harm its own citizens. I used to be as establishment as one could get until researching these things myself. Infowars can produce some good historical info from time to time, but their news should be taken with a grain of salt. Alex Jones is a sensationalist.

Northwoods though. There is no denying what was discussed and written. The fact that high ranking people in power can sit around and come up with "A remember the Maine incident could be arranged in several forms" and "We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba" is disturbing. (Pg 11). This document alone should give anyone reason to question any narrative coming out of DC. And also be open to the idea that a group of powerful people may just kill their own citizens for political gain. To say otherwise is just ignorant denial. If the Joint Chiefs of Staff could think this way in 1962, politicians sure as hell can now and always have. I used to think the US government could do no wrong. Then I grew up.

Operation Northwoods PDF from the national archives
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010...hwoods.pdf

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(08-28-2014 05:21 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  you can't dismiss this poster's claim with sheer anger. If you're not ok with it, you gotta counter argue it with logic.

True.

We on RVF should be much better than the feminists who are always attacking the source, labeling as "sexist" or "mysoginist"
and never discuss the actual facts...

A lot of false flags hapenned in the last 20 years as well,
you will have the official confirmation about them, in detail,
sometimes over 50-100 years or so...

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Infinite amount of conspiracy theories proved to be correct.

I think being shamed into "conspiracy" is as good argument against people who propose such theories, as being shamed into "misogyny" is against red pillers.

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(09-02-2014 05:00 AM)RawGod Wrote:  For example, no one doubts NATO cooperation in false flag bombings in Europe (Operation Gladio) or the James Bond weaponry put on the public record in the Church Committee CIA hearings.

Once you study just what is on the record about the activity of the Western security/intelligence forces in the 50s to the 70s (they got a lot better at keeping things secret after the Church Committee) then you realise that their capability to mold the narrative and do all kinds of outrageous things was (and presumably, still is) off the charts.

The personal result of my study - a lot of uncertainty regarding specific events. But zero trust in the narrative served up by media and government.

There was an Operation Gladio, yes. It was a NATO program to prepare "stay-behind" forces, partisans in the event of a Soviet invasion. A lot of people were involved. Some of them did other things that had nothing to do with Gladio.

Blaming bombings of some fascist activists who were marginally connected with Gladio is like blaming the U.S. Postal Service for mass shootings done by postal workers, or the U.S. Army for Major Nidal's shootings.

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(08-30-2014 12:01 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I tune out as soon as I see the term "false flag."

Why? You seriously don't think they've ever happened?

Quote:"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

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(09-02-2014 05:00 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 03:31 AM)Hades Wrote:  I used to argue with conspiracy theorists on other internet forums. It's impossible. Conflicting evidence just makes them believe harder.

It's a shame that they're less critical about their source material, since the crazy shit on Gary Webb seems somewhat plausible.

So you're against all conspiracy theories? That's as irrational as being for all conspiracy theories. Each one has to evaluated on its own merits.

That seems to be as hard a position to take as "I don't know", but those two approaches are the most intellectually honest ones.

I'm not against all 'conspiracies'. Look at the Gary Webb one for instance, the story was so outlandish that the entire world refused to believe it until the CIA did an internal investigation.

It's just very hard to take somebody over the internet seriously when they honest to God believe that Obama is a reptillian from Nbiru or that the earth is made of different layers, like an onion, and you can access lower layers where dinosaurs still like through Antarctica.

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Ok, so what now?

If I agree that a lot of skulduggery goes on by those who hold power, so what? What then?

Power has its own logic, and follows its own interests.

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(09-02-2014 09:33 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(09-02-2014 05:00 AM)RawGod Wrote:  For example, no one doubts NATO cooperation in false flag bombings in Europe (Operation Gladio) or the James Bond weaponry put on the public record in the Church Committee CIA hearings.

Once you study just what is on the record about the activity of the Western security/intelligence forces in the 50s to the 70s (they got a lot better at keeping things secret after the Church Committee) then you realise that their capability to mold the narrative and do all kinds of outrageous things was (and presumably, still is) off the charts.

The personal result of my study - a lot of uncertainty regarding specific events. But zero trust in the narrative served up by media and government.

There was an Operation Gladio, yes. It was a NATO program to prepare "stay-behind" forces, partisans in the event of a Soviet invasion. A lot of people were involved. Some of them did other things that had nothing to do with Gladio.

Blaming bombings of some fascist activists who were marginally connected with Gladio is like blaming the U.S. Postal Service for mass shootings done by postal workers, or the U.S. Army for Major Nidal's shootings.

Not so. There were a number of incidents - we're talking large bombings and shootings with the biggest killing 85 people in Bologna - in which Western security forces were either convicted (in one incidence) or accused/implicated. You think if an arrested Belgian weapons guy turns and names the CIA that the CIA will admit anything? You have to use your brain. Again, we're not talking a single incident here but a pattern. The intelligence agencies always build in plausible deniability. "It was a small group going rogue".

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(09-02-2014 12:50 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Ok, so what now?

If I agree that a lot of skulduggery goes on by those who hold power, so what? What then?

Power has its own logic, and follows its own interests.

If you can come to the point of "OK, so what now?" then you don't have to continue to dig into these murky waters of recent history. It's counterproductive.

As you say, you then follow your own interests. You mentally check out from the mainstream narrative. I "believe" in the political process, the news media, about as much as I do in the pronouncements of priests.

So "what then?" is everything else you do.