Post: #1

We all talk about red pill in relation to girls we game and also random tattooed fat feminists on the internet - but have you ever had an incident where red pill philosophy effected the way you view or treat women that are family members or friends or on good terms with? I'm writing because there's a couple of girls that I'm friendly with who went on a vacation abroad and two of them pretty much acted in the way the RP would have expected them to act. The most hilarious thing is that one of the girls I had actually discussed a lot of red pill ideas with and she would always pull the NAWALT defense and tell me to "stop judging all women by your misogynistic websites" and she's the one that most perfectly lived up to the predictions.

For me, seeing RP ideas play out like this with people I know in real life has really made the lessons hit home with me. I've always agreed with a lot of the ideas on an intellectual level since they made sense to me and lined up a lot with what I had personally observed in day to day life but seeing someone I know well behave exactly the way any experienced guy on these forums would have predicted if they knew her and her background really drove home the point. When just passively reading these articles I think a lot of us unconsciously think that all of these points only apply to people that we don't know "Oh SHE would never act like that, not like those other chicks" but when it hits home, that's when you really realize how true a lot of these ideas are.

Post: #2

Unfortunately seeing things for what they are also means that you have to acknowledge on some intrinsic level that the world is pretty fucked up and people are also extremely predictable most of the time. At times it's hard not to feel a certain amount of contempt for people's behavior you know is due in part to just being weak willed with lack of common sense. I think the best thing you can do in these situations is to look at the angles and see how it can benefit you the most. It's pointless to expose your position or worldview to those that can't see the truth for themselves. I'd say that it's even harmful because weak vindicative people will try and use these things against you if you ever have a falling out.

Post: #3

It has improved my relationships with women in general. I recognize the hamster so I'm better tuned with emotional responses from my mom, female friends, etc. Red pill thinking has shifted my entire view of the world, not just my relationships with females.

Post: #4

(08-08-2014 12:54 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Unfortunately seeing things for what they are also means that you have to acknowledge on some intrinsic level that the world is pretty fucked up and people are also extremely predictable most of the time. At times it's hard not to feel a certain amount of contempt for people's behavior you know is due in part to just being weak willed with lack of common sense. I think the best thing you can do in these situations is to look at the angles and see how it can benefit you the most. It's pointless to expose your position or worldview to those that can't see the truth for themselves. I'd say that it's even harmful because weak vindicative people will try and use these things against you if you ever have a falling out.

I agree with Chinito Loco. Engage whatever strategies and tools that you wish, but it is generally NOT fruitful to discuss with others what tools you are using with them. Hone your skills and practice with everybody, and some tools and strategies work better with some people.

Also, if you are dealing a women and you are NOT gaming her, you can still apply some of the tools, but in some situations, you have to use common sense b/c you will realize that it is just NOT practical in those circumstances to attempt to use the skills b/c you are NOT trying to bang her or to otherwise win her over to you.

For example, with your mom or your grandma or your aunt, it may play to your advantage to just let them have their way with everything, even if you may NOT play your cards that way with a girl that you are considering banging.

Post: #5

Yes but red pill changes your view on everything in life not just the women. In fact I've found my relationships with certain girls have got better and worse with some. Naturally it's the feminine girls who my relationships have improved with.

Post: #6

My family respects me more and it has made me more successful in all avenues. Some of my friends hate me now, but to hell with them, they need to get a life.

Post: #7

More success in all aspects of life, I instinctively stay away from certain friends and they do the same to me. Family members respect me a lot more. In general life is a lot more enjoyable when you have a humanist outlook.
I don't have the time for women unless I find them very attractive and we start hooking up, or if they are genuinely interesting people, that I can talk politics etc with.

All this political correctness and the culture that goes with it, really is anti self improvement. It makes everything a lot more complicated and gives you bad ideas which destroy your soul. Really I just don't give a fuck anymore.

Post: #8

It's given me far more sympathy for the women in my life - especially the family members. I'm a lot kinder and more understanding. Use the red pill as a tool to understand the people you love not to change them.

Post: #9

It has. It has made me look at my circle of friends and see who is "red pill" and who is "blue pill." Sadly, most are blue pill and it is an uphill battle just to get them to accept basic red pill principles/concepts in their lives. I talk to the ones that are red pill and we just shake our heads... they just dont get it.

It sucks because you know they could be living more enriched lives if they listened to you. You want to help them since they are your friends. It is frustrating.

Post: #10

When you go redpill, you develop a strong urge to start telling others about it or you try to convince people that women should be more feminine, American women suck, politics is BS etc. Don't. You won't achieve shit. Reserve that energy in order to focus on yourself. That's what I'm currently doing.

The other thing that tends to happen is you begin to look down on others (bluepillers). "Look at that beta" "That fat girl is disgusting" etc. And again, that shit is wasted energy. I know because I've done it and still continue to do sometimes.

Save your energy and keep moving. That's a big part of the redpill for me.

Post: #11

I feel like I understand women of all sorts better, understand their motivations and goals better, and am more able to communicate with them amicably as a result.

I sometimes run into a real ball-buster of a woman in a totally non-sexual way, the kind who if you were hitting on her would just blow you out and you'd just move on and be happy you're no longer talking to her.

I try to be my usual self and just get shut down. In terms of game you'd just move on and not be bothered, but in real life these people may be your co-workers or whatever, and I need to learn to deal with women who are more masculine, because it's a growing group of them for sure.

Post: #12

(08-08-2014 04:55 AM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  

(08-08-2014 12:54 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  Unfortunately seeing things for what they are also means that you have to acknowledge on some intrinsic level that the world is pretty fucked up and people are also extremely predictable most of the time. At times it's hard not to feel a certain amount of contempt for people's behavior you know is due in part to just being weak willed with lack of common sense. I think the best thing you can do in these situations is to look at the angles and see how it can benefit you the most. It's pointless to expose your position or worldview to those that can't see the truth for themselves. I'd say that it's even harmful because weak vindicative people will try and use these things against you if you ever have a falling out.

I agree with Chinito Loco. Engage whatever strategies and tools that you wish, but it is generally NOT fruitful to discuss with others what tools you are using with them. Hone your skills and practice with everybody, and some tools and strategies work better with some people.

Also, if you are dealing a women and you are NOT gaming her, you can still apply some of the tools, but in some situations, you have to use common sense b/c you will realize that it is just NOT practical in those circumstances to attempt to use the skills b/c you are NOT trying to bang her or to otherwise win her over to you.

For example, with your mom or your grandma or your aunt, it may play to your advantage to just let them have their way with everything, even if you may NOT play your cards that way with a girl that you are considering banging.

Yeah, but what if i'm trying to bang my mom, grandma, or aunt?


The Red Pill has left me feeling resentful towards my parents (mostly my mom). I had a very tough time during my school years because of a learning disability, and neither of my parents really giving a fuck how I did on my report cards. My mom constantly criticizes my decisions, because subconsciously she does not want me to be more successful than her. At least that is what I believe her motive is. It really gets on my nerves, and I pretty much tune out anything she has to say.