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Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
We have probably all heard SJWs complaining about the microagression of asking someone about their race/ethnicity/national background. It seems that asking "where are you from?" Is something they are trying to stamp out.

I am a curious person who is interested in different cultures and countries, so it is a natural question that occurs to me when talking with anyone who is not an American.

However I have started playing the game of not asking. And in almost every interaction where I am talking with a girl for more than a few minutes, they nearly inevitably ask me. Its interesting because guys do not really ask me this question, but girls it seems, when they start considering me as a possible mate, need to know about my racial heritage.

Its funny because where I grew up I was just considered white, but my look is a bit swarthier and more mediterranean than the average white guy, so people could believe I was any number of things besides African or Asian basically.

Its hilarious messing with girls because theyll ask
"Whats your background?"
"Well my background is in law but I dont work in that now."
"No like, Where are you from?"
"Oh Im from the suburbs."
"No but your parents I mean, where do they come from?"
"Oh they were from the city."
"Noooooo i mean..."

I find that if I evrr actually tell them in any detail, they immediately get bored. My ancestry is interesting to me for a lot of reasons but girls really dont actually care, I guess they just want to know to tick off "hispanic" or "white" in their head or whatever.

Somehow, I am not offended. Should I be? Perhaps they are verbally raping me and I dont even know...

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07-31-2014 10:16 AM
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I don't concern myself with the opinions of SJWs. These are the people I used to mercilessly rip on in middle & high school and are now angry at guys like me for constantly humiliating/dominating them. They're just bitter and hide behind their keyboards.

Personally, I've never had this problem. Girls I talk to usually have no problem telling me their race/ethnicity. It's one of my personal favorite conversation sparkers, because I'm reasonably well traveled.

At this point, buzzfeed is literally a malignant wart on the ballsack of society. You can't take anything they say seriously.

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07-31-2014 10:21 AM
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RE: Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
Because taking offense is a way of gaining social status within certain settings.
07-31-2014 10:43 AM
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RE: Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
I don't think it is offensive.

If someone is offended by that, stop talking to them immediately and walk away.
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RE: Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
(07-31-2014 10:16 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  We have probably all heard SJWs complaining about the microagression of asking someone about their race/ethnicity/national background.

I first laughed and then cringed when I first heard this word. A guest on the local NPR station was prattling on about how mispronouncing a foreigner's name is a form of "microagression." For fuck's sake, don't these people have better things to do? Apparently not.

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RE: Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
Where are you from is a rather common question that everyone asks. No girl has ever asked me specifically about my ethnicity, though I suppose this is because I'm unmistakably white. I have a somewhat southern European look overall, but with lighter skin I guess? One girl remarked that I looked like I was from "Southern France or Northern Spain" which was actually pretty accurate because my maternal grandfather's family originated from Spain, but I have hair that is a brownish red tint in the sun which indicates my Britannic roots also.

I'm actually curious as to what kinds of guys get asked the question of their ethnicity and what their actual background is.

Also, Hans is right. Don't concern yourself with the opinions of SJWs. Normal, attractive, well-adjusted women are not feminists or some other kind of SJW. I even approached a woman that was married the other day and she thanked me for doing so. The only people that get offended by these small things are losers. That's why they make up these ridiculous terms like "microaggressions" in the first place.

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I ask this question a lot too because Im a curious cat. Some better ways of asking in the PC world:

-'Whats your ethnicity? Im always interested in peoples background cause Im foreign myself'

-'Thats an interesting accent/expression ( of speech)/item of clothing/food. Wheres it from?'

Followed up by 'thats a cool mix thats must mean you are ... insert safe but funny racial stereotypes'

But if I am on the rig it usually goes:

Hey Jay Z/Tiger woods pass me that hammer (Black)
This guy should be able to figure out these maths (Asian)
Did they teach ya that at Tim Hortans (Philippians)
What are ya fucking drunk? I said (Irish/Scottish)
He is doing it wrong cause hes used to working upside down- arnt ya Bruce (Ausy)

I get Irish shit all the time or English jokes from the real idiots (its the same country to them)
07-31-2014 11:35 AM
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Just cause a tiny minority of dimwits consider a question offensive doesn't actually mean it's offensive. Don't listen to those idiots. As a red piller it's your job to filter out the dimwits from the norm.

For the record "where are you from" is not an offensive question. it's a small talk question to get to know someone better.
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(07-31-2014 11:35 AM)Atlantic Wrote:  -'Thats an interesting accent/expression ( of speech)/item of clothing/food. Wheres it from?'

I actually do this a lot when I hear a girl talk in a foreign accent, but I like to play a small guessing game. You can usually hone in on the region. It's a small little way to have a bit of fun and show her that you're an interesting guy. I also combine this with an extended handshake that turns into a handhold to establish a physical connection.

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Its NOT considered offensive, by emotionally/psychologically healthy people.

It is only "offensive' to:

- race trolls
- overly sensitive people
- delusional people
- people who take themselves to serious
- people with no sense of humor
- people with poor social skills
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You both must fill out consent forms signed by lawyers from both sides in order to ask this question. Otherwise it is legally inquiry rape.
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If someone has lived in a country for say 20 years and they speak the native language better then the majority of the local population, it would be perceived as offensive. Its a throwback 40 years ago where the mentality was different, where they looked as foreigners as inferior. It is seen as someone who is pretty ignorant given the international nature of the world, these days.
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I get it all the time, I never get offended. (I'm Pakistani/Indian)

I always tell them to guess (especially if its a girl) or I'll say I'm a terrorist or a Taliban (with a grin).

I'll get Arab, Latin, Mexican usually.

I honestly think asking someone that shows a genuine interest in you.

Fuck the PC SJW bullshit.

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(07-31-2014 11:39 AM)Libertas Wrote:  
(07-31-2014 11:35 AM)Atlantic Wrote:  -'Thats an interesting accent/expression ( of speech)/item of clothing/food. Wheres it from?'

I actually do this a lot when I hear a girl talk in a foreign accent, but I like to play a small guessing game. You can usually hone in on the region. It's a small little way to have a bit of fun and show her that you're an interesting guy. I also combine this with an extended handshake that turns into a handhold to establish a physical connection.

I had a massive reply written on this but I clicked out by accident on my phone. Second time:

This is huge. A great thing to do when you have some spare time is learn the Capital and several large cities of the countries where you meet girls most from. In Canada this is Asian and Europe. The less of a popular traveling destination the better. I am sure everybody knows the major cities of Germany but what about Iran or Scotland. Then do a quick wiki read too on countries and try remembering some random facts. Start a little list and make it a habit to remember random facts.

Then you used the subtle but huge value drop when you game them.

Instead of asking if she is from Spain tell her she has a cute ‘kinda’ Barcelona accent and must be used to partying to dawn (doesn’t matter if you are right just take your best guess).

It sounds basic but when you do this to a girl from a rarer country like Norway, Bulgaria or Luxemburg the affects can be huge. Of course you are using this when you meet them in the States or Canada.

When you make whatever guess just brush over the statement and don’t draw attention to it. She will usually ask if you have been there before right away. Answer mysteriously – ‘I travel a lot and like to take in the culture of people wherever I go’ or ‘I passed through once for some business’.

It implies you travel a lot, have international social skills, are used to dealing with foreign girls and are a man of experience. I used this all the time when I worked in the tourism business and got so good I would guess right 75% of the time. Girls love it and it builds a great connection.

This is a kind of a basic game move but if you are not using it you are missing out.
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RE: Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
This is actually one of my favorite questions to get. I always troll women whenever they ask. I always say that I am Mexican or Arab but never Indian. And when they finally figure it out they always respond positively. I think it's perfectly fine to ask that question
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Always ask that.
Always.

Its such an easy way to establish something in common with another person and start a flowing conversation.

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Just imagine their yammering as backgroung noise and zone it out.
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I once asked an american girl what her ancestry was and she told she was half native american. she was borderline albino so I was like wtf?! I noticed white americans of colonial stock always claim to have native ancestry down the woodpile. good for them I guess although I don't know how much of that is true.
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I'm East Asian myself so I get asked this question a lot. Let's face it, the two things that are going to jump out the most about you when you first meet someone is your gender and your ethnicity. Before someone gets to know you, that's what they're going to be working with in order to try and start an interaction with you. When someone asks me that question, my thought is that they are trying to build a connection not "omg this is so offensive and STOP MICROAGRESSING ME". The only people that are going to be like that are either super sensitive SJWs or people with near autistic social abilities - plenty of crossover between those two categories.
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If someone tries that "micro aggression" on me they're going to see a macro aggression.

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It is also offensive to cholos..
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I always get asked and I'm never offended, in fact other people are never offended either and yes I do troll sometimes

"i'm british"
"but where are your parents from?"
"Britain"
"originally?"
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I don’t really mind if the person asks in a nice manner.

I was trolled by a black-American guy at LAX immigration control a couple of months ago. My first name is a British name and my last name is not a British name, but it does seem like one:

Him: [Looks at my passport] Is that your real name?
Me: Yes
Him: Why do you have that name? I’ve never seen anybody of your community with a name like that.
Me: I was born in UK, and I was given a British name by my relatives.
Him: What’s your background? You’re Pakistani right?
Me: No, my parents are not from Pakistan.
Him: Oh. That’s surprising. You see something new every day.
Me: There’s a LOT of people from South Asia living in UK.
Him: Do you live here?
Me: Yeah I do. [I pull out my driving licence. It has my Los Angeles address on it]
Him: Wow, I’ve never come across anybody of your background who lives in LA. Have a nice day [Stamps my passport]
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I’ve had this conversation with FOB Koreans and FOB Chinese many times in the US and it does irritate me:

FOB: You’re from India right?
Me: No. I’m from UK.
FOB: You don’t look British.
Me: I was born and raised in UK. My parents came to UK in the 1960s. A lot of people from my community did.
FOB: Oh OK. I never knew that. I can detect a bit of Indian accent in there.
Me: I’ve never lived in India!
FOB: But you’re still Indian right? That’s why you have the accent.
Me: [I feel like saying FUCK OFF!] Bye.
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(07-31-2014 11:52 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Its NOT considered offensive, by emotionally/psychologically healthy people.

It is only "offensive' to:

- race trolls
- overly sensitive people
- delusional people
- people who take themselves to serious
- people with no sense of humor
- people with poor social skills

Unfortunately, the majority of people fall into one of those traits or a combination.
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RE: Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
The reason some people find it offensive is because those people are always looking to be victims, can't take responsibility for their own lives and are complete losers who'll never amount to anything. That's why.

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RE: Why is "where are you from?" considered offensive?
It's not offensive.

"What's your nationality?" That is often offensive. People who ask me that question fall into at least one of two categories 1. Stupid 2. Ignorant. Ignorant is ok, especially if their first language isn't English because they can't always differentiate fluent English speakers with foreign accents from English speakers with one of the native English accents. Anyone who speaks English at the native level though should hear that I have an American accent.

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