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First Take Host Stephen A Smith Dogged For Speaking Truth About Domestic Violence
Washington Post published an article about Stephen A Smith's comments regarding NFL player Ray Rice's actions in domestic abuse.

It was then where Stephen A Smith dropped a nugget of truth about women provoking men into domestic violence. By provoke, I don't mean forgetting to wash the dishes. I mean actually calling out women who try to demonstrate masculine behavior to other men (cussing them out, spitting, smacking with open or closed hand in a threatening manner, etc.)

Quote from the Washington Post article.

Quote:Earlier today, the “First Take” host decided to discuss the two-game suspension of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice. To catch you up, the NFL suspended the Rice for violating the league’s personal conduct policy. Rice allegedly abused his then-fiancee, now-wife by knocking her unconscious in an Atlantic City casino’s elevator. Rice entered a not-guilty plea and ultimately avoided a trial by being accepted into a pretrial intervention program in May.

After the suspension was announced on Thursday, many complained Rice’s punishment was too light and questions emerged about how this might reflect on the NFL’s marketing toward women, a group that makes up a rather large chunk of football’s viewing audience.





Outrage soon followed on Twitter by an ESPN collegue and the hamster wheel began to spin.

Quote:Michelle Beadle ✔ @MichelleDBeadle

So I was just forced to watch this morning's First Take. A) I'll never feel clean again B) I'm now aware that I can provoke my own beating.

As expected, soon after enough butthurt was generated Stephen A Smith had to make an apology for speaking his mind and now there are calls for him to be fired.

Such a wonderful world we live in.
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This situation reminds me of the phrase, "One of these things is not like the other."

Michelle's ridiculous response is the expected given the rhetoric beat into women's heads, "Nothing is ever your fault." Women and girls are constantly told what happens in their life is never their fault. This results in women completely unable to parse out the reality of situations.

Didn't get into John Hopkins? Not your fault.

Your boyfriend beat you? Not your fault.

You have 50k in debt? Not your fault.

What women don't learn is how to discern what reasonably is your fault and what is not. Your boyfriend beating you for burning the pork roast is completely different from you screaming and threatening to smack your boyfriend. Not getting into medical school because they toss out black candidates is different than you not being smart of enough to ace the MCAT. Having 50k of debt because of necessary medical expenses is different than 50k of debt after you flunking out of freshman year when you majored in Women's Studies.

Michelle's initial tweet reflects this. She is amazed that she learns she can be the cause of abuse. Yeah, no shit. When you boyfriend beats you for not packing his lunch, that is completely on him. When he smacks you after you get in his face screaming and talk about violently attacking him, that was your fault.

Sometimes in life, things happen to you that is not your fault. I've been robbed at gunpoint, jumped and beaten randomly and almost killed in the car wreck. You should be able to separate what you did to cause the situation and what was other's choices. That is called maturity.

You can't do whatever the hell you want and expect the world around you to respond in ways that you want.

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I am surprised the NFL only did two games. Surprised in a good way. Thank you for thanking a stand NFL.

If a woman started to beat me, I really don't know what I would do. A Butch dike on the other hand....

The cycle of disrespect can start with just an appetizer.
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I am studying for the bar. In torts, we have what is called contributory negligence, comparative fault, and/or assumption of liability.

I am seriously wondering how a feminist studying for the bar would feel about these concepts.
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If a woman is not responsible for malign outcomes that proceed her way, i.e. it's never her fault,does that also mean she is not responsible for beneficial outcomes that proceed her way, i.e. she never did that on merit?

Sounds like two sides of the same coin to me
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Quote: B) I'm now aware that I can provoke my own beating.
The funny thing is that she's actually genuine. Feminists are so far removed from the consequences of their actions that the entire concept has become alien to them. They truly can't comprehend how getting in someone's face, shouting abuse at them or hitting them can conceivably lead to them returning the favor. It's mind boggling.

Guys know this. Every boy instinctively understands it from a young age. Even the weakest, most effeminate dweeb knows that if he walks into a biker bar and starts getting in people's faces, he won't walk out of there on his own two feet. Snarky comments won't save him.

Western women have deluded themselves into thinking they have an invisible barrier around them that makes them immune to catching a smack.
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Didn't Bill Burr do a good video on this sort of thing? Pointing out Rhianna and Chris Brown as an example. I bet she got in his face just like Bill said and went ape shit.

Would you poke a bear with a stick and wait around to find out what it would do? Apparently women do.
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(07-27-2014 10:38 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Didn't Bill Burr do a good video on this sort of thing? Pointing out Rhianna and Chris Brown as an example. I bet she got in his face just like Bill said and went ape shit.

Would you poke a bear with a stick and wait around to find out what it would do? Apparently women do.




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(07-27-2014 10:38 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Didn't Bill Burr do a good video on this sort of thing? Pointing out Rhianna and Chris Brown as an example. I bet she got in his face just like Bill said and went ape shit.

Would you poke a bear with a stick and wait around to find out what it would do? Apparently women do.

Quote:Chris Brown attacked Rihanna after she hit him with her shoes, it was claimed last night.

Quote:"When you take off your shoes and beat someone with high heels, that's going to hurt. He reacted and tried to get her to stop hitting him, but she kept screaming."

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So this woman was knocked out unconscious by her man, and 1 month later she married him?

No sympathy from me.
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(07-27-2014 12:07 PM)Collide Wrote:  So this woman was knocked out unconscious by her man, and 1 month later she married him?

No sympathy from me.

Sympathy ???

First of all, she spit in his face. you do that and all bets are off.


Secondly, feminist wont like this part one bit, but I guarantee you that during sex they had following that incident that she had the BIGGEST orgasm of her life. - she has never been so in love.

Nothing gets a woman off than knowing she has a man with a capacity for extreme violence and who can , when appropriate, dominate her.
She now knows that she has an Alpha and she loves it.
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He should have used the example "if a woman walks into a bar and another woman there who has had to much to drink walks up to her and starts screaming in his face, threatening to rob her and kidnap her children...what do you think she should do?" This trap capitalizes on the fact that chicks act like dudes and fight these days.

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A woman would rather get beat up by an alpha than waste her time with a beta, and she'd rather waste her time with a beta than spend even 5 seconds in the company of an omega.

Remember that women are attracted to dominant men above all else. Right or wrong, nothing conveys dominance to a woman more directly than slapping her around. Being the weaker sex, women are hardwired to respect violence. Their instinctual reaction is to submit themselves to a violent man as a form of self-preservation. Violence also sets off the tingles because if a man is violent toward her he's probably violent toward other men as well, further implying dominance.

The relationship between violence and female arousal is probably the most inconvenient and oft-ignored by feminists and researchers in general.

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A bit off topic but:

I was out clubbing Friday night, trolled some girl on the dance floor after she was pissed that I getting all the selfie attention from her friends.

A few minutes later she slapped me twice in the face when I was having a drink at a table with a few buddies, I told her to fuck off.

I walk pass her at the end of the night, giving a James Franco wink
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My buddy lets me know that she's chasing after me, I turn around and she starts wailing on me. Manages to swing at my face 10 times, All I do i grab her arms and wait for a bouncer to show.

I couldn't retaliate unless I want to
A) Face the wrath of a thousand white knights
B) Get banned from my favorite pub/club
C) Face the cops always waiting outside

The bouncer saw the whole thing and kicked her out, but I'm still disappointed in how I handled it and the fact that if it was a dude I could have easily retaliated and face little consequences.

What would have been the best course of action? Chick was chasing me the whole night and when she started going ape shit was pouting and whining like a kid saying "whyyyy are u such a dick to meee Sad"

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Should have tried to pull her home

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Even though Stephen A. Smith is somewhat speaking the truth here he has always come across as a race troll to me. He has nothing to offer society except a song and dance to enrage or bemuse. He's an entertainer that caters towards the lowest common denominator that buy into his routine.
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Last week I parked my car in public and left it unlocked, windows down with an ipad on the front seat. When I came back the ipad was gone. Don't tell me what to do to protect my stuff, I shouldn't have to take precautions. Tell everyone else to stop stealing stuff that isn't theirs.
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ESPN suspends Stephen A. Smith over Ray Rice domestic abuse commentary
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We can't dare hold women accountable in this society. Never. I can't wait for enough men to wake up and stop supporting the women so they can find out how easy they once had it and how little they really know or appreciate.
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Its now to the point where anyone on ESPN with an opinion will be suspended sometime during their short career there. They fire and suspend people left and right for essentially nothing. I am glad I got rid of cable and I don't have any income going to that Mickey Mouse sports network.

The white knighting manginas on facebook are the most depressing thing about this whole story.
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(07-29-2014 06:01 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  ESPN suspends Stephen A. Smith over Ray Rice domestic abuse commentary
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Beat me to it.

Unfortunately this only furthers the cause that women must be treated like ignorant children because they should never EVER be held accountable for their actions.
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(07-27-2014 02:15 PM)Emancipator Wrote:  A bit off topic but:

I was out clubbing Friday night, trolled some girl on the dance floor after she was pissed that I getting all the selfie attention from her friends.

A few minutes later she slapped me twice in the face when I was having a drink at a table with a few buddies, I told her to fuck off.

I walk pass her at the end of the night, giving a James Franco wink
[Image: cCcngtY.gif]
My buddy lets me know that she's chasing after me, I turn around and she starts wailing on me. Manages to swing at my face 10 times, All I do i grab her arms and wait for a bouncer to show.

I couldn't retaliate unless I want to
A) Face the wrath of a thousand white knights
B) Get banned from my favorite pub/club
C) Face the cops always waiting outside

The bouncer saw the whole thing and kicked her out, but I'm still disappointed in how I handled it and the fact that if it was a dude I could have easily retaliated and face little consequences.

What would have been the best course of action? Chick was chasing me the whole night and when she started going ape shit was pouting and whining like a kid saying "whyyyy are u such a dick to meee Sad"

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Should have tried to pull her home

You did the safe thing. No point in getting arrested over some ho in a club who has that ho mentality.
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I can't get beat up for talking shit

something only a woman would say. even kids on the playground know better
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