(10-13-2015 12:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  HCE, have you read the Bellingcat report? We've moved beyond the whodunnit at this point.
http://www.bellingcat.com/wp-content/upl...ation1.pdf

That's a convincing report, thanks for sharing. I'm convinced that the rebels shot down MH17 using a Russian-provided BUK missile.

So when are we holding the air traffic authorities responsible for directing the flight at a lower altitude over an active warzone where many other planes had been shot down before?

And when are we holding the entire NATO responsible for arming dozens of other armed groups and states that also committed atrocities?

(10-13-2015 01:11 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  And when are we holding the entire NATO responsible for arming dozens of other armed groups and states that also committed atrocities?

To be sincere, that would be nice. But as a member of the Security Council with veto power, as Rusia, nothing will happens.

Bumping this thread in light of the recent investigation, which states, "... there was conclusive evidence that a missile from the Russian-made Buk 9M38 missile system downed the passenger flight on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 people on board." (Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/europe/mh17-buk-russia/)

I know someone else bumped up this thread, but I cannot help but remember this one news:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/kuala-lumpu...de/5359404

Won't find it hard to believe if this was just a form of retaliation from the Anglosphere West, especially when:

A. Malaysia is a former British colony
B. Balfour 1917 prepared for the 1946 existence of Israel, as part and parcel with the Zionist Movement's agreement with the British Empire
C. Palestinian genocide has been going on, under British mandate, and the Anglosphere elite genuinely fear this kind of interference by Kuala Lumpur

29 years old..."committed suicide by shooting himself in the heart"

To be fair its not unreasonable to believe a man responsible for so many deaths would take his life over the guilt he felt.

I just accidentally clicked on page 1on this thread.

Lots of comments along the lines of, ‘get ready for war’ or ‘this will lead to war’ etc.

Yet.. nothing. Just utter nothing.

Isn’t it amazing just how brazen these acts are and how nothing is done. I listened to the Stefan Moleneux podcast today about the Telford rape case, thousands of cases of systematic rape and torture of young girls of a certain ethnicity perpetrated by a different one. In that case, what will the outcome be? Nothing? Probably.

I wonder what it actually will take for us to get to war.

(03-19-2018 01:44 PM)Ski pro Wrote:  I just accidentally clicked on page 1on this thread.

Lots of comments along the lines of, ‘get ready for war’ or ‘this will lead to war’ etc.

Yet.. nothing. Just utter nothing.

Isn’t it amazing just how brazen these acts are and how nothing is done. I listened to the Stefan Moleneux podcast today about the Telford rape case, thousands of cases of systematic rape and torture of young girls of a certain ethnicity perpetrated by a different one. In that case, what will the outcome be? Nothing? Probably.

I wonder what it actually will take for us to get to war.

What surprises me more is the lack of vigilante justice in these cases. Its happended a few times but ....Where are these girls' fathers / brothers ?

Example





The prosecutor agreed to 5 years probation because he knew no jury would convict him of murder once he got on the stand and asked

"If it was your child what would you do?"

Another one

https://www.policeone.com/investigations...rs-abuser/

Quote:No charges for dad who killed daughter's abuserFound 5-year-old girl being sexually assaulted behind barn on property, beat attacker to deathJun 19, 2012
By Paul J. Weber and Ramit Plushnick-Masti
Associated Press

SHINER, Texas — Hearing his 5-year-old daughter crying from behind a barn, a father ran and discovered the unthinkable: A man molesting her. The father pulled the man off his daughter, authorities say, and started pummeling him to death with his fists.

With his daughter finally safe, the father frantically called 911, begging a dispatcher to find his rural ranch and send an ambulance.

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"Come on! This guy is going to die on me!" the man is heard screaming on the 911 call. "I don't know what to do!"

A recording of the tape was played during a news conference Tuesday where the Lavaca County district attorney and sheriff announced that the father will not face charges.

In declining to indict the 23-year-old father in the June 9 killing of Jesus Mora Flores, a Lavaca County grand jury reached the same conclusion as investigators and many of the father's neighbors: He was authorized to use deadly force to protect his daughter.

"It's sad a man had to die," said Michael James Veit, 48, who lives across the street from where the attack happened in this small community run on ranching and the Shiner beer brewery. "But I think anybody would have done that."

The family ranch is so remote that on the 911 tape, the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property. At one point, he tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital.

"He's going to die!" the father screams, swearing at the dispatcher. "He's going to f------ die!"

The tense, nearly five-minute call begins with the father saying he "beat up" a man found raping his daughter. The father grows increasingly frazzled, shouting into the phone so loudly at times that the call often becomes inaudible.

The Associated Press is not identifying the father in order to protect the daughter's identity. The AP generally does not identify victims of sexual assault.

"He's a peaceable soul," V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters at the Lavaca County Courthouse. "He had no intention to kill anybody that day."

The attack happened on the family's ranch off a quiet, two-lane county road between the farming towns of Shiner and Yoakum. A statement released by the district attorney said a witness who saw Flores "forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area scrambled to find the father. Running toward his daughter's screams, the father pulled Flores off his child and "inflicted several blows to the man's head and neck area," investigators said.

Emergency crews responding to the father's 911 call found Flores' pants and underwear pulled down on his lifeless body. The girl was examined at a hospital, and Lavaca County District Attorney Heather McMinn said forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father's story that his daughter was being sexually molested.

The father was never arrested, but the killing was investigated as a homicide.

Philip Hilder, a Houston criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, said he would have been surprised if the grand jury had decided to indict the father. Hilder said Texas law provides several justifications for the use of deadly force, including if someone commits a sexual assault.

"The grand jury was not about to indict this father for protecting his daughter," he said.

Authorities said the family had hired Flores before to help with horses on the ranch. He was not born in the U.S. but was here legally with a green card. Attempts to locate Flores' relatives through public records were unsuccessful.

On Tuesday, a new "No Trespassing" sign was freshly tacked onto a gate barring entrance down a gravelly, shrub-canopied path leading to the barn and chicken coop on the ranch, which belonged to the father's dad.

At the father's house, the front yard could pass for a children's playground: blue pinwheels sunk into patchy grass, an above-ground swimming pool, a swing set, a trampoline and a couple of ropes dangling from a tree for swinging. A partial privacy fence is painted powder blue.

No one answered at the father's home. A few miles away, at a home listed as belonging to the father's sister, a woman shouted through the front door that the family had nothing to say. Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters that neither the father nor anyone else in the family would ever give interviews and asked that they be left alone.

Veit, who lives across the street from the ranch, described the father as easygoing and polite _ down to always first asking permission to search Veit's property for animals that had wandered off the ranch, even though the families have long known each other.

Veit's son was a classmate of the father's at Shiner High School in a graduating class of about two dozen. Veit, 48, said the young father was never known to be in trouble.

"Just like a regular kid, went to dances, drank beer like the rest of the kids around here," Veit said.

Shiner, a town of about 2,000 people about 80 miles east of San Antonio, revolves around the Spoetzl Brewery that makes Shiner, one of the nation's best-selling independent beers. Even gas stations here sell it on tap.

Flores' death is only the sixth homicide the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office has investigated in the last eight years. Shiner residents boast their squeaky-clean image on a highway welcome sign: "The Cleanest Little City in Texas."

At Werner's Restaurant, customer Gail Allen said she didn't want to speak for the whole town, though her comments echoed what others said.

"The father has gone through enough," said Allen, 59, who has nine grandchildren. "The little girl is going to be traumatized for life, and the father, too, for what happened. He was protecting his family. Any parent would do that."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOZs42O4-Ns

Anyone else hear about this? Not sure how true but pretty creepy, been going around social media.

Transcription of voicemail:
sdangersositisdireforyoutoevacuatebecautioustheyarenothuman042933964230sosdanger​soss danger sos it is dire for you to evacuate be cautious they are not human 042933964230 sos danger sos.

(03-19-2018 04:00 PM)bigolteddies Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOZs42O4-Ns

Anyone else hear about this? Not sure how true but pretty creepy, been going around social media.

Transcription of voicemail:
sdangersositisdireforyoutoevacuatebecautioustheyarenothuman042933964230sosdanger​soss danger sos it is dire for you to evacuate be cautious they are not human 042933964230 sos danger sos.

You are confusing the malaysia airlines plane shot down over Ukraine in July 2014, with the other one that disappereared over the Indian ocean in March 2014.

The thread for the plane that disappeared is here:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33847.html

(03-19-2018 04:03 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 04:00 PM)bigolteddies Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOZs42O4-Ns

Anyone else hear about this? Not sure how true but pretty creepy, been going around social media.

Transcription of voicemail:
sdangersositisdireforyoutoevacuatebecautioustheyarenothuman042933964230sosdanger​soss danger sos it is dire for you to evacuate be cautious they are not human 042933964230 sos danger sos.

You are confusing the malaysia airlines plane shot down over Ukraine in July 2014 with the other one that disappereared over the Indian ocean.

The thread for the plance that disappeared is here:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-33847.html

Gotchya sorry about that, just saw malaysia in the title and assumed