Post: #1

Warning for those easily incensed: the video in the link will piss you off beyond belief

On the plus side though, this guy got absolutely wrecked by a random internet vigilante who tracked him down for this stunt.

http://empirenews.net/man-gets-beat-up-a...og-online/

Post: #2

Oh, God, as soon as I saw the screenshot of the vid, I closed it. That dog looks like it knows what's coming.

Breaks my heart.

Post: #3

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Post: #4

Hmmm looks like it may be photoshopped. Not saying it is - per this article. I am now concerned if this wasn't some attempt to bring attention to animals and the dog was actually hurt to make a point about not hurting animals.

http://theanimalspost.com/2014/04/04/man...tting-dog/

Post: #5

I guess I applaud these animal heroes but often wonder why they don't go after child molesters or people like that. Sometimes it seems as if they care more about animals than fellow humans. "Nothing hurts me more than seeing an animal abused".

Rico

Post: #6

(07-08-2014 02:36 PM)Rico Suave Wrote:  I guess I applaud these animal heroes but often wonder why they don't go after child molesters or people like that. Sometimes it seems as if they care more about animals than fellow humans. "Nothing hurts me more than seeing an animal abused".

Rico

Animal worship is part of the decline. You would be wise to rid yourself of unnecessary attachments to animals your own self. At least you understand the difference between them. If you watch a dog being slammed on concrete a few times or a donkey's head crushed in China, cut up and served with the super happy smiles on their faces, perhaps then you can start undoing decades worth of brainwashing you have had in the West and realize why animals exist on this planet for. To serve you and I. Nothing more. Once you do that, then you will find things that actually hurt far more than an injured dog or cat, which will have more meaning in your life.

Post: #7

I don't understand animal love either. I love and eat meat. If a dog (or child) misbehaves badly enough it will get a smack on the ass. God gave me dominion over the animals around me, I shall continue to take advantage of it.

Regardless, beating another person's animal over a break up is petty.

Post: #8

That's true. It's completely perverse to care for animals more than humans.

Post: #9

(07-08-2014 02:44 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 02:36 PM)Rico Suave Wrote:  I guess I applaud these animal heroes but often wonder why they don't go after child molesters or people like that. Sometimes it seems as if they care more about animals than fellow humans. "Nothing hurts me more than seeing an animal abused".

Rico

Animal worship is part of the decline. You would be wise to rid yourself of unnecessary attachments to animals your own self. At least you understand the difference between them. If you watch a dog being slammed on concrete a few times or a donkey's head crushed in China, cut up and served with the super happy smiles on their faces, perhaps then you can start undoing decades worth of brainwashing you have had in the West and realize why animals exist on this planet for. To serve you and I. Nothing more. Once you do that, then you will find things that actually hurt far more than an injured dog or cat, which will have more meaning in your life.

yes and no. I think animals exist for food, companionship and servitude (horses) but I think that treating them with respect (or gratefulness) is still relevant. A video of a chicken processing plant would be different than that of some of the workers playing soccer with them in the cages.

I think putting animals above humans is a problem though. Case in point how people want to see the video of the guy getting the beating but not the dog. Human on human violence is ok, but not on animals?

Last, the guy flipped out but I reserve judgement without context especially if it is in a breakup. Maybe she sent him a whatsapp video of her sucking his best friend's dick and then burning all of his stuff...

Post: #10

There are links between animal abuse and the abuse of humans. This New York Times article outlines some of them, but I've read about this elsewhere.

Let's be clear about something: there is a difference between hunting an animal and sadistically beating one. The first speaks to our need for survival. Early humans hunted and ate certain animals, so this makes sense (although the PETA crowd will deny it).

But simply beating up an animal to wound it serves no biological imperative. It's an indication of a bully. And as I've posted many times before, the brain scans of bullies show they feel pleasure when others feel pain, so it's easy to see this carrying over to humans.

While the PETA/cat lady/animals-first crowd is hella annoying, I think the reason people get horrified by this is they see themselves in the place of the helpless animal. We've all been babies and most of us will be old and in need of assistance. No one wants to think there are people running around ready to punish you to satisfy their own twisted need for pleasure.

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Post: #12

Agreed. A person that is sadistically beating an animal is basically showing why he should not be trusted with power/authority over anything or anyone. They should at worse be stopped, but put in prison for 2 years or bleeding hear lynch mob death threat junk is ridiculous. The punishment should be there if it was destruction of someone else's property. Which in this case it appears to be.

Post: #13

Eating animals is part of survival. I have no problem with hunting eating meat or wearing leather. punching a dog to get back at your gf isnt even comparable to those scenarios. Even hunters like to kill an animal with the least suffering possible.

Post: #14

(07-08-2014 02:58 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  While the PETA/cat lady/animals-first crowd is hella annoying, I think the reason people get horrified by this is they see themselves in the place of the helpless animal. We've all been babies and most of us will be old and in need of assistance. No one wants to think there are people running around ready to punish you to satisfy their own twisted need for pleasure.

I think a lot of them are pretty damaged and animals give them "unconditional" love. I had a roommate once who was fucked up. She didn't do much to care for the dogs in the house, but she hugged the shit out of them when she got pumped and dumped.

Post: #15

(07-08-2014 03:21 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  Eating animals is part of survival. I have no problem with hunting eating meat or wearing leather. punching a dog to get back at your gf isnt even comparable to those scenarios. Even hunters like to kill an animal with the least suffering possible.

Yeah the adrenaline ruins the meat or so I have heard. I have no idea if that is true or not though. Never tried doing that. Also it is just the respectful thing to do as a steward of the animals and the land.

Post: #16

(07-08-2014 02:44 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 02:36 PM)Rico Suave Wrote:  I guess I applaud these animal heroes but often wonder why they don't go after child molesters or people like that. Sometimes it seems as if they care more about animals than fellow humans. "Nothing hurts me more than seeing an animal abused".

Rico

Animal worship is part of the decline. You would be wise to rid yourself of unnecessary attachments to animals your own self. At least you understand the difference between them. If you watch a dog being slammed on concrete a few times or a donkey's head crushed in China, cut up and served with the super happy smiles on their faces, perhaps then you can start undoing decades worth of brainwashing you have had in the West and realize why animals exist on this planet for. To serve you and I. Nothing more. Once you do that, then you will find things that actually hurt far more than an injured dog or cat, which will have more meaning in your life.

This may be news to you, but the Universe doesn't revolve around homo sapiens. "They" were not placed here to serve "us". Other species existed for millions of years before us, and the Xtian "we're in this world, not of it" mindset has been one of the most damaging ideologies of the past 1,000 years.

And, oh yeah, I've beat an animal abuser's ass before and I enjoyed every second of it. There's no fundamental law that says people must value a human life above any other.

(And I grew up hunting and fishing and still do, so there's no PETA agenda here. It's simply cruel to beat a small defenseless animal for shits and giggles, and a person who does is a textbook sociopath)

Post: #17

The article said the guy who whooped him posted a vid of the beating. Anyone have a lino to the dude getting is butt kicked would love to see him beibg held by the neck bopped on the nose lol

Post: #18

^ I did not particularly enjoy the video of the guy smacking his dog around. I would similarly not enjoy the video of the vigilante smacking the guy around.

Guy needs to be charged with animal cruelty. Vigilante needs to be charged with assault.

Post: #19

I admit we kill and use animals for all sorts of things, but there's a broad line between abuse and use. That video is abuse. Moreover, some animals we associate with companionship, as we domesticated them (and arguably ourselves towards them) for that purpose.

I don't think the (supposed) vigilante was right, but I will admit it does give me a visceral sort of pleasure seeing this guy get his shit pushed back on him. He beat a defenseless creature incapable of understanding why he was doing this to it, completely at his mercy. It's pleasant to see people treated according to their own standards.

Post: #20

Dude is a pussy, and should be beaten like a Floridian in Israel. I'm going to go all feminist here and tell you what a real man is. A real man protects the innocent. He doesn't beat on them because the "guilty" slighted him. If you want to go the Judeo-Christian route, god gave man dominion over animals. This here is domination. I'd love to see a bitch like this guy try that shit with my pitbull. My dog would be put down for being a "vicious" breed after tearing his ass up.

This isn't about animals vs. humans. This is about wicked vs. innocent. Go to the knockout game thread and look at the outrage there, then go to the thread where the chick jumps the counter at McDonald's and is greeted with a pipe to the skull. Not all violence is equal. Nobody is going to cry if the dude is stomping a rabid raccoon trying to attack a toddler.

Post: #21

(07-08-2014 02:58 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  There are links between animal abuse and the abuse of humans. This New York Times article outlines some of them, but I've read about this elsewhere.

Let's be clear about something: there is a difference between hunting an animal and sadistically beating one. The first speaks to our need for survival. Early humans hunted and ate certain animals, so this makes sense (although the PETA crowd will deny it).

But simply beating up an animal to wound it serves no biological imperative. It's an indication of a bully. And as I've posted many times before, the brain scans of bullies show they feel pleasure when others feel pain, so it's easy to see this carrying over to humans.

While the PETA/cat lady/animals-first crowd is hella annoying, I think the reason people get horrified by this is they see themselves in the place of the helpless animal. We've all been babies and most of us will be old and in need of assistance. No one wants to think there are people running around ready to punish you to satisfy their own twisted need for pleasure.

100% agree, particularly your last paragraph. In related news:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...eaths.html

Woman, 25, faces life in prison for stopping on highway to rescue ducklings and causing crash that killed a father and his daughter

A woman who parked her car on a highway to rescue ducklings has been found guilty of causing the deaths of a motorcyclist and his daughter who slammed into her vehicle...

I first read about this on Gawker, of course there were many comments of the "well, they're both at fault" variety.

Post: #22

(07-08-2014 02:36 PM)Rico Suave Wrote:  I guess I applaud these animal heroes but often wonder why they don't go after child molesters or people like that. Sometimes it seems as if they care more about animals than fellow humans. "Nothing hurts me more than seeing an animal abused".

Rico

You automatically assume outrage for an animal being abused wouldn't solicit the same response to a kid being molested. I have to call major bullshit on that.

I don't know where you're from or who you hang out with, but I can assure you the people I hang with would be outraged at the idea of a kid being beaten and/or molested.

Maybe you need to take a look at your surroundings and change the type of people you associate with.

Post: #23

(07-08-2014 03:24 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  I think a lot of them are pretty damaged and animals give them "unconditional" love. I had a roommate once who was fucked up. She didn't do much to care for the dogs in the house, but she hugged the shit out of them when she got pumped and dumped.

80% of animal behaviour is a blank slate that women can ascribe human emotions onto.

Whereas real human beings are complex and might disappoint and frustrate her expectations.

Generally, animals play their required role in her life without complaint or complication.

Women like this don't want a man: they want a phantom construct of a man they've built up in their head to play a role she has already scripted for him.

Excessive love of pets is a warning sign for me. Any chick I've know who grew up in a house of multiple cats, dogs, and - especially - horses, has been a rampaging sloot with issues.

Also, goddamn, that post-beatup pic looks ... fake.

Post: #24

So is this like a before and after picture? If so, why and when did he take a photo in the same position, same shirt, same lighting before the incident occurred??

Post: #25

The after pic is a fake. If I had to guess, it's a lame attempt on his part to avoid the ass kicking. Either that, or some chick or wuss that couldn't inflict the damage for real made it to show him what's what.