(07-10-2014 12:24 PM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  Scorpion, you completely failed to address my argument. Fact is your reasoning is just bad. From the statement "1/3 of cases of child sexual abuse are male on male" it does not follow that "gays as a group are more likely to be kiddy-fiddlers". Unless I know what percentage of gay men are also pedophiles and/or child molesters, your statement is meaningless.

Again, by that reasoning, I should conclude that men as a group are a threat to children, considering that the vast majority of child molesters are male. We're half the population, yet we commit something like 98% of child rapes.

Again, from the statement that
"Many members of Group A also belong to Group B" it does not follow that...
"Many members of Group B therefore belong to group A"

There's not really much else that needs to be said to that. You're simply looking for reasons to rationalise your own issues and to justify this little ideological agenda you're pushing.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if you're a man abusing boys doesn't that mean you're homosexual by nature? How could one assume otherwise??

I realize that paedophilia is a mental disease (for now) but like gay porn actors I think if you're involved in that behavior one would have to think you sort of 'are what you are' meaning you're gay. Children have gender too.

So therefore I think extrapolating that "Many members of Group A also belong to Group B" it does not follow that... "Many members of Group B therefore belong to group A" is being a bit disingenuous. Maybe I'm not following something Sargon is saying though.

From the data (which is not confirmed, but likely never will be given how actively the gay lobby & mainstream media will seek to suppress it given their agenda) its pretty alarming that upwards of 1/3 of pedos are homosexual. But it makes sense if you look at homosexuality as a form of abnormality (which technically & scientifically it is).

Its highly alarming the lengths that society goes to hide this data too, but then again we have Feminism claiming gender is a 'social construct' and 50 types of gender on Facebook, so no I guess it's not.

In any case, I'm still not there yet on this behavior eventually being legalized, but we're in pretty scary uncharted waters here in the West and a lot of stuff is going on that might make it not so far-fetched.

All I can say is that I hope that Vicious and Sargon don't have children. You're both completely blind to a fact that's staring you right in the face.

My logic is not faulty, nor does the affirming the consequent fallacy apply, because I'm drawing conclusions from measured, quantifiable data, not blanket categorizations.

I'm not saying something like, "Zebras eat grass. John ate grass. Therefore, John is a Zebra."

I'm saying: Homosexuals are 1500% more likely to be pedophiles than straight men. There is no logical fallacy. That's simply the math. That doesn't mean that all or even most homosexuals are pedophiles. It just means that pedophilia is much more common among homosexuals than straight men. This is a fact, it is not arguable. You are free to disregard the facts, but not to make up your own or accuse me of faulty logic.

(07-09-2014 05:03 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  This is a slow regression to pagan morality

Hey now, don't badmouth pagan morality, at least no all pagans! Marriage has always been the norm in european pagan society along with quite strict sexual morals and I very much doubt inbreeding was a serious problem, that has been reserved for royalty and abrahamic religions. Muslims actually do unfortunately have significantly higher degrees of genetic abnormalities due to the commonality of cousin marriage, the same with jews. It is the people living in tropical bounty island like enviroments who had loose sexual morals as is today, the Phils, Thais, Ameri-Indians (before christianity), Polynesians etc.

About viking/pagan morality:

Quote:There are no recorded instances of homosexual or lesbian couples in the Viking Age: moreover, the idea of living as an exclusively homosexual person did not exist in most cultures until present day Western civilization appeared. One's sexual partners mattered little so long as one married, had children, and conformed at least on the surface to societal norms so as not to disturb the community. Those Scandinavians who attempted to avoid marriage because of their sexuality were penalized in law: a man who shunned marriage was termed fuðflogi (man who flees the female sex organ) while a woman who tried to avoid marriage was flannfluga (she who flees the male sex organ)

It was the Meditteranean people who were the pederasts.

(07-10-2014 12:27 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  As sickened as I am with gay pride, acceptance etc. I dont see legalized/socially accepted pedophilia anytime in the future.

A) Pedos are universally despised and B) Children are basically worshipped in the US. Kids have holy status and if anything, MORE laws will be enacted to protect them.

Yep, exactly.

(07-10-2014 12:27 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  That being said, I wouldnt be shocked to see some sort of advanced travesty being promoted in the future once gays have made their full impact.

The thing is, even if progressives were hellbent on adding every last band to the sexual spectrum, it's diminishing returns from here on in.

The list of human sexual perversions is a gloriously long one, but as you go down the list the number of devotees dwindles very rapidly. Gays might seem like they're almost everywhere but the truth is that they are a quite small percentage of the population. And trannies are orders of magnitude less common than gays. There is really nowhere to go from there in terms of raw numbers.

I laugh when I hear things like "maybe not pedophilia but bestiality is next". How many critter lovers do people think are really out there? Maybe a couple of horny goatherds in the Anatolyan mountains and a random freak from Mainz or San Paulo. It ain't gonna be enough to get anyone too excited. It would be a fascinating world in which "beast" could become "the next big thing" but for better or worse it's not the world we live in.

I wonder how many people who write about what is "next up" for progressives actually read progressive writers and blogs to see what they're really into and excited about and what is driving their agenda. I do it regularly, and here is what gets your progressive blogger through the day at this time:

1. Consolidation of feminism and "rape culture"/"war on women". This remains big and is the basic bread and butter. There is a lot of work left to do in making the lives of men in the west more miserable, and the work continues.

2. The extension of the gains of feminism to other places in the world, via NGOs, "empowerment of women" and "saving the children" etc etc. Every country needs to get in line and "women/children rights" and the fight against "sex trafficking" is the way to get it done.

3. (This is the big one) "climate change" and "saving the planet". Catastrophe is (always) just around the corner and there is just enough time to save the world provided we stop our "obsession with growth" and start paying our carbon taxes to Gaia. If a progressive blogger wakes up in a bad mood, she might feel that it's too late already and the punishment is coming no matter what -- #BecauseScience.

These are the things that a Hillary presidency will be about if and when it happens. Or rather, to be more accurate, this is what they want it to be about; what it will actually be about is, as usual, likely to be determined by completely unpredictable events outside of anyone's control.

(07-10-2014 09:23 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  There's also the issue of pure pedophiles vs. homosexuals going after pubescent boys.

Tell me, what is the sexual reason for homosexuals men going after young teenage boys?

For men, there is a very real biological reason to be attracted to a teenage girl, she is most fertile.

For homosexual men, what is the reason?

(07-10-2014 01:58 PM)berserk Wrote:  

(07-10-2014 09:23 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  There's also the issue of pure pedophiles vs. homosexuals going after pubescent boys.

Tell me, what is the sexual reason for homosexuals men going after young teenage boys?

For men, there is a very real biological reason to be attracted to a teenage girl, she is most fertile.

For homosexual men, what is the reason?

It's actually very simple. Homosexuals are a broken men, and so for the same reasons a normal man finds young girls attractive (they are fertile) this same impulse is transferred onto young males by homos.

Vast majority of homosexuals I've talked to prefer younger men. Go on any gay hooker site, and all of the hookers are young and buff.

As for the fact of homosexuals being pedophiles, this has been known for quite some time but no one likes to talk about it.

I've personally talked to MANY gays who have been "turned into fags" by having a homosexual encounter as their first sexual experience.

Homosexuality occurs naturally, the same way most birth defects do, but it can also spread, the same way most diseases do.

If a man sucks off a young boy or fucks him in the ass, he'll probably become a faggot for life.

I challenge anyone here on this board to become close to a gay man (as many as you can, feasibly) and ask them about their first sexual experience. What you will learn will shock you.

Far too many people are ignorant about homosexuals, and for a red pill board, any ignorance about faggotry is a bit inexcusable. What Scorpion said about 1/3 of boys being victims of homos makes sense, because approximately 1/3 of homos I've gotten to known have told me the child-rape story of becoming gay.

(07-10-2014 01:20 PM)scorpion Wrote:  All I can say is that I hope that Vicious and Sargon don't have children. You're both completely blind to a fact that's staring you right in the face.

My logic is not faulty, nor does the affirming the consequent fallacy apply, because I'm drawing conclusions from measured, quantifiable data, not blanket categorizations.

I'm not saying something like, "Zebras eat grass. John ate grass. Therefore, John is a Zebra."

I'm saying: Homosexuals are 1500% more likely to be pedophiles than straight men. There is no logical fallacy. That's simply the math. That doesn't mean that all or even most homosexuals are pedophiles. It just means that pedophilia is much more common among homosexuals than straight men. This is a fact, it is not arguable. You are free to disregard the facts, but not to make up your own or accuse me of faulty logic.

You are, without basis, counting all paedophiles that molest boys as homosexuals. That is faulty logic. Not fact. Not math.

Spare me the trite ad hominem. Attacking someone's ability as a parent is something I expect from a hysterical woman. I will not change that your figures are made up.

(07-10-2014 02:34 PM)Vicious Wrote:  You are, without basis, counting all paedophiles that molest boys as homosexuals. That is faulty logic. Not fact. Not math.

Exactly what sorts of pedophiles who molest boys aren't homosexuals? An extreme minority. And pedophilia does not include hemophilia, which is where most boys are turned into fags between the ages of 12-16 (puberty). And hemophilia is most on boys is done disproportionately by fags.

(07-10-2014 02:43 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(07-10-2014 02:34 PM)Vicious Wrote:  You are, without basis, counting all paedophiles that molest boys as homosexuals. That is faulty logic. Not fact. Not math.

Exactly what sorts of pedophiles who molest boys aren't homosexuals? An extreme minority.

Assumptions.
Not facts.

(07-10-2014 02:34 PM)Vicious Wrote:  You are, without basis, counting all paedophiles that molest boys as homosexuals.

I think we're done here. Vicious is clearly either denying reality outright or playing sophistic word games (i.e. "a man is not really a homosexual if he prefers sex with boys instead of men").

Paedophilia is an attraction towards children, not gender. Their male/female gender is inconsequential in the matter. That is definition. That is fact.

(07-10-2014 03:01 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Paedophilia is an attraction towards children, not gender. Their male/female gender is inconsequential in the matter. That is definition. That is fact.

Children have genders.

As an aside, if you want to know how successful the homosexual propaganda campaign of the past few decades has been, look at this: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch...re/257753/

Quote:Surveys show a shockingly high fraction [of Americans] think a quarter of the country is gay or lesbian, when the reality is that it's probably less than 2 percent.

...

In surveys conducted in 2002 and 2011, pollsters at Gallup found that members of the American public massively overestimated how many people are gay or lesbian. In 2002, a quarter of those surveyed guessed upwards of a quarter of Americans were gay or lesbian (or "homosexual," the third option given). By 2011, that misperception had only grown, with more than a third of those surveyed now guessing that more than 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian. Women and young adults were most likely to provide high estimates, approximating that 30 percent of the population is gay. Overall, "U.S. adults, on average, estimate that 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian," Gallup found. Only 4 percent of all those surveyed in 2011 and about 8 percent of those surveyed in 2002 correctly guessed that fewer than 5 percent of Americans identify as gay or lesbian.

Television is a brainwashing device that distorts the viewer's perception of reality over time. Popular entertainment is literally social programming designed to change the way humans think. How else do you explain people believing that 1/3 of people are gay, when the real number is literally not even a tenth of that? It's only made possible by television programming that features a grossly disproportionate amount of sympathetic homosexual characters. This is done intentionally to condition the public to be more accepting of homosexuals.

As we can see in this thread, this artificial comfort results in people making bold denials of reality in favor of homosexuals, to the extent that they can hamster away mathematical proof that homosexuals are disproportionately pedophiles with statements like, "Children do not have gender, thus pedophiles cannot be homosexual." At the same time they employ this tortured hamster logic, they attack the logic (mathematic proof, really) of others.

It is a frightening and bizarre world we live in today. If you want to preserve your sanity and a grasp on reality, I advise everyone to avoid as much popular media as you can. It does nothing but warp your view of reality, like looking at the world through the reflection on a funhouse mirror.

To add to this discussion, Texas Arcane recently argued that pedophilia is in part a symptom of psychopathy (he's off his rocker most of the time but he makes some good points every so often).

Basically, pedophiles pursue children in part because they're vulnerable and powerless. Not only do children lack the physical strength to fight an adult trying to rape them, in many cases they won't even try. For all their rebelliousness at times, children are ultimately submissive to adults because they see them as authority figures and will either take them at face value or otherwise won't report their wrongdoings out of fear. See: all the Catholic priests who molested children for decades without getting caught.

Look at it from the psychopath's perspective: he wants someone he can completely control and provides as little resistance as possible. Someone who can't reject his advances, who won't reject them out of fear and deference to authority. Someone who might not even know that they should be rejecting his advances. There's no one who fits this bill better than a prepubescent child.

This is why sane societies place strict limits on homosexual activity and severely punish child molesters, usually with death. It's not simply because raping a child is one of the most heinous crimes you can commit, it's because pedophiles typically commit other serious crimes as well. One of the greatest victories of the left has been destroying the natural connection people make between homosexuality and pedophilia. Yes, there are straight pedophiles as well, but given that homosexuals suffer greater rates of mental illness than heterosexuals, it's not a stretch to say that they're more likely to engage in psychopathic and anti-social behavior as well.

I should add that the abolition/restriction of the death penalty (thanks, leftists!) helped pave the way for this situation. Bad in the bad old days, child molestation was a crime punishable by death. Nowadays, we punish pedophiles in a half-assed fashion by letting them live in public, but branding them with a scarlet letter "S" (the sex offender registry), making it difficult for them to get jobs and forcing them to live off welfare. Also add in the restrictions against them living with a certain distance of elementary schools (because it's totally unheard of for rapists to commit their crimes in a different part of the city that they live in).

I can guaren-fucking-tee you that the pro-pedophile left will focus their initial efforts on "reforming" this system, calling it "unjust" and "unfair." It's not unlike how the left claimed/claims that the death penalty is "cruel" and that life in prison is a more than adequate punishment for the worst criminals... but whoops, now the left wants to abolish life imprisonment as well (and already has in some countries such as Norway)! First they'll claim that the sex offender registry is "cruel and unusual punishment." Next they'll argue that raping little boys isn't that bad ("At least they're still alive!"). This is how they work: they slowly immerse people in radical social change, like the proverbial frog in a pot, until society is cooked just the way they want it.

There's only one sensible way to deal with pedophiles: the death penalty. No sex offender registry, no life in prison without the possibility of a parole. They are inherently defective beings and the only way to cure them is with a bullet in the brain.

EDIT: I forgot to add that legalized gay marriage will in part become a major enabler for homosexual child rapists. Here's an example of a gay couple that adopted a child so they could use him as their personal sex toy.

I can guarantee you that there are other stories like this, but the media has suppressed them for obvious reasons. If it turned out that pedophiles were using gay marriage and gay adoption to obtain children to rape, why, that wouldn't fit with the narrative at all! Don't you realize that "love shouldn't be illegal" and "we're all the same inside"?

(07-10-2014 04:07 PM)scorpion Wrote:  As an aside, if you want to know how successful the homosexual propaganda campaign of the past few decades has been, look at this: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch...re/257753/

Quote:Surveys show a shockingly high fraction [of Americans] think a quarter of the country is gay or lesbian, when the reality is that it's probably less than 2 percent.

...

In surveys conducted in 2002 and 2011, pollsters at Gallup found that members of the American public massively overestimated how many people are gay or lesbian. In 2002, a quarter of those surveyed guessed upwards of a quarter of Americans were gay or lesbian (or "homosexual," the third option given). By 2011, that misperception had only grown, with more than a third of those surveyed now guessing that more than 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian. Women and young adults were most likely to provide high estimates, approximating that 30 percent of the population is gay. Overall, "U.S. adults, on average, estimate that 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian," Gallup found. Only 4 percent of all those surveyed in 2011 and about 8 percent of those surveyed in 2002 correctly guessed that fewer than 5 percent of Americans identify as gay or lesbian.

Television is a brainwashing device that distorts the viewer's perception of reality over time. Popular entertainment is literally social programming designed to change the way humans think. How else do you explain people believing that 1/3 of people are gay, when the real number is literally not even a tenth of that? It's only made possible by television programming that features a grossly disproportionate amount of sympathetic homosexual characters. This is done intentionally to condition the public to be more accepting of homosexuals.

As we can see in this thread, this artificial comfort results in people making bold denials of reality in favor of homosexuals, to the extent that they can hamster away mathematical proof that homosexuals are disproportionately pedophiles with statements like, "Children do not have gender, thus pedophiles cannot be homosexual." At the same time they employ this tortured hamster logic, they attack the logic (mathematic proof, really) of others.

It is a frightening and bizarre world we live in today. If you want to preserve your sanity and a grasp on reality, I advise everyone to avoid as much popular media as you can. It does nothing but warp your view of reality, like looking at the world through the reflection on a funhouse mirror.

This doesn't surprise me at all. There's an absolutely massive exposure factor. With how much airtime gays get (look at how ESPN basically orgasmed over Michael Sam), it's not a surprise that most Americans believe that one-fourth of the population is gay. Turn on CNN for a week, and I guarantee that something will come up about homo/transphobia. When you keep showing shit like that, people believe that the population has a very significant gay portion.

The more you're exposed to something, the more people start to believe that it's a large population. For example, I'm confident that if you were to expose most people to televangelists every day, for seven hours a day, most people would believe that the average American is an Evangelical Christian.

It's going to be interesting seeing "gay pride" when Islam takes over the West.

(07-10-2014 03:23 PM)berserk Wrote:  

(07-10-2014 03:01 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Paedophilia is an attraction towards children, not gender. Their male/female gender is inconsequential in the matter. That is definition. That is fact.

Children have genders.

Indeed, Vicious' rationale is on the same level of the leftist claim that one can't be racist against whites because of bullshit hamsterism involving lack of "power" or some shit.

Someone that's attracted to males is a homosexual, period. That the male they're attracted to is 8 or 80 is irrelevant.

(07-10-2014 04:14 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  To add to this discussion, Texas Arcane recently argued that pedophilia is in part a symptom of psychopathy (he's off his rocker most of the time but he makes some good points every so often).

Basically, pedophiles pursue children in part because they're vulnerable and powerless. Not only do children lack the physical strength to fight an adult trying to rape them, in many cases they won't even try. For all their rebelliousness at times, children are ultimately submissive to adults because they see them as authority figures and will either take them at face value or otherwise won't report their wrongdoings out of fear. See: all the Catholic priests who molested children for decades without getting caught.

Look at it from the psychopath's perspective: he wants someone he can completely control and provides as little resistance as possible. Someone who can't reject his advances, who won't reject them out of fear and deference to authority. Someone who might not even know that they should be rejecting his advances. There's no one who fits this bill better than a prepubescent child.

This is why sane societies place strict limits on homosexual activity and severely punish child molesters, usually with death. It's not simply because raping a child is one of the most heinous crimes you can commit, it's because pedophiles typically commit other serious crimes as well. One of the greatest victories of the left has been destroying the natural connection people make between homosexuality and pedophilia. Yes, there are straight pedophiles as well, but given that homosexuals suffer greater rates of mental illness than heterosexuals, it's not a stretch to say that they're more likely to engage in psychopathic and anti-social behavior as well.

I should add that the abolition/restriction of the death penalty (thanks, leftists!) helped pave the way for this situation. Bad in the bad old days, child molestation was a crime punishable by death. Nowadays, we punish pedophiles in a half-assed fashion by letting them live in public, but branding them with a scarlet letter "S" (the sex offender registry), making it difficult for them to get jobs and forcing them to live off welfare. Also add in the restrictions against them living with a certain distance of elementary schools (because it's totally unheard of for rapists to commit their crimes in a different part of the city that they live in).

I can guaren-fucking-tee you that the pro-pedophile left will focus their initial efforts on "reforming" this system, calling it "unjust" and "unfair." It's not unlike how the left claimed/claims that the death penalty is "cruel" and that life in prison is a more than adequate punishment for the worst criminals... but whoops, now the left wants to abolish life imprisonment as well (and already has in some countries such as Norway)! First they'll claim that the sex offender registry is "cruel and unusual punishment." Next they'll argue that raping little boys isn't that bad ("At least they're still alive!"). This is how they work: they slowly immerse people in radical social change, like the proverbial frog in a pot, until society is cooked just the way they want it.

There's only one sensible way to deal with pedophiles: the death penalty. No sex offender registry, no life in prison without the possibility of a parole. They are inherently defective beings and the only way to cure them is with a bullet in the brain.

EDIT: I forgot to add that legalized gay marriage will in part become a major enabler for homosexual child rapists. Here's an example of a gay couple that adopted a child so they could use him as their personal sex toy.

I can guarantee you that there are other stories like this, but the media has suppressed them for obvious reasons. If it turned out that pedophiles were using gay marriage and gay adoption to obtain children to rape, why, that wouldn't fit with the narrative at all! Don't you realize that "love shouldn't be illegal" and "we're all the same inside"?

Castration is also an effective solution.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/1...judge-says

Quote: A Sydney judge has compared incest and paedophilia to homosexuality, saying the community may no longer see sexual contact between siblings and between adults and children as "unnatural" or "taboo".

District Court Judge Garry Neilson said just as gay sex was socially unacceptable and criminal in the 1950s and 1960s but is now widely accepted, "a jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now 'available', not having [a] sexual partner".

Now if you read the whole article you will see that the judge is facing criticism for his remarks, but the real story is that he made them in the first place. This is a judge in a Western nation. How is such insanity issuing forth from his mouth? Is he an idiot or a degenerate? Probably not. The answer is that he has lived his entire life in a poisoned culture, one that has become increasingly degenerate as the years have gone by. The gradual degradation of traditional morals has been all he's ever known. And so it seems perfectly natural to him that homosexuality will give way to pedophilia and incest.

And he's right. He simply recognized the progressive agenda and extended it to its logical conclusion. Of course, he's still a bit ahead of the curve here, so he must face official criticism. But as we can see with this story and the one I posted in the OP, the slow creep of progressive degradation is inevitable. No matter how shocking it seems to us now, this is where the future is headed. This is what happens when man creates his own ever-shifting sense of morality rather than relying on the eternal and unchanging morals of God: an unceasing march toward darkness, death and decay.

Edit: I was just reading back through the thread and saw that Zelcorpion posted this same link on page 3 without my noticing it. Whoops. Credit to him for posting it first.

(07-10-2014 01:50 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  The thing is, even if progressives were hellbent on adding every last band to the sexual spectrum, it's diminishing returns from here on in.

I certainly hope youre right. I also sometimes wonder whether this paranoia regarding "the fall of Western civ" is unwarranted. But the way things are at now, who knows whats coming next? The previous generations would be sitting with their jaws dropped to the floor if they saw the current trends.

As you alluded to at the end of your post, there are simply too many things out of our control, and well have to wait and see.

Sadly this topic is 100% accurate, don't think for one minute the OP is exaggerating. Age of consent is 14 in my part of the world, I believe they dropped it to 12 under the guise of girls are developing faster than before.
Trust me the Pedo's are the ones in power, look at all the reported cases recently with celebs/politcians in the UK.
This is absolutely sickening because deep down they want to grab your sons, while hiding behind the law. It is enough to not make me want to have children.

(07-10-2014 05:12 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Sadly this topic is 100% accurate, don't think for one minute the OP is exaggerating. Age of consent is 14 in my part of the world, I believe they dropped it to 12 under the guise of girls are developing faster than before.
Trust me the Pedo's are the ones in power, look at all the reported cases recently with celebs/politcians in the UK.
This is absolutely sickening because deep down they want to grab your sons, while hiding behind the law. It is enough to not make me want to have children.

What part of the world is that?

If you are in Canada, age of consent there was raised from 12 to 14 in 1890, and raised again from 14 to 16 in 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_cons..._in_Canada

Age of consent has been rising virtually everywhere in the world. It used to be much lower almost everywhere.

EDIT: By the way, I wonder how many people know that age of consent in Canada was **12** before 1890?

If you want to see what today would be considered "legalized pedophilia" your best bet is to build a time machine and head to the past -- not the future.

I believe there are three correlates in this case:

Hedonism+Homosexuality+Mental Illness=Sadism/Paedophilia

The first three exist in a mixture with an uncertain causation. Does childhood trauma and untreated mental illness lead to homosexuality? Does homosexuality lead to mental illness? Does homosexuality cause hedonism, or does mental illness cause hedonism? Does hedonism cause homosexuality, and is hedonism a result of mental illness?

"A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B..."

There is a subset of homosexuals who just like dick, but for a great number of them it's the transgressive nature of the sexual act which compels them. There's an edge of destroying innocence, or simply performing something disgusting/blasphemous which drives them. These behaviours can exist in heterosexual sex as well, but they seem to be far more prominent amongst homosexuals - where once again the cause/effect direction is in-determinant and variable.

But the result is always the same - cruelty and death worship. Fetishizing HIV with "Bug Catchers" - the thanatos desire manifesting itself through unprotected anonymous sex, in the same way habitual gamblers love to lose (it reaffirms their world view) - extreme BDSM, and - sometimes - paedophilic urges.

Sadism is the natural result of hedonism. When you run out of new experiences, you push towards the more extreme experiences. While love can maintain a relationship, a pure hedonist knows no love - only pleasure. And eventually they find pleasure through extreme pain, either for themselves, or in others. Eventually their self-hatred and loneliness explodes onto others, often using sex as the weapon with which they hurt people.

The contrary desires of men and women put the brakes on pure hedonism most of the time - while if you're a homosexual, sliding into a hedonistic lifestyle is far easier. Once you get old and fat, you're not going to be sitting next to your life-long lover - you haven't had a lover, not to speak of. Instead, you'll turn the knife onto the next form of innocence you can find.

Related: I'm pretty sure that the Warhammer 4K campaign setting is an unconcious metaphor for the decline of Western Civilization. The Eldars describe the hedonic suicide.

(07-10-2014 03:01 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Paedophilia is an attraction towards children, not gender. Their male/female gender is inconsequential in the matter. That is definition. That is fact.

That's pretty specious mate. Not sure where you learned that but you seriously need to question that belief.

If you're molesting young boys and a man you're 1) homosexual and 2) pretty messed up psychologically. Let's call a spade a spade. Children have a gender. It's a bit of a technicality given the dire circumstances of the situation but saying otherwise is essentially "white knighting" for the homosexual lobby, seriously.

(07-10-2014 05:12 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Sadly this topic is 100% accurate, don't think for one minute the OP is exaggerating. Age of consent is 14 in my part of the world, I believe they dropped it to 12 under the guise of girls are developing faster than before.
Trust me the Pedo's are the ones in power, look at all the reported cases recently with celebs/politcians in the UK.
This is absolutely sickening because deep down they want to grab your sons, while hiding behind the law. It is enough to not make me want to have children.

Which part of the world are in you right now? Because the Conservative government raised the age of consent from 14 to 16. Not the other way around. To say that open support for pedophilia is imminent is nothing but fear mongering.

All evidence points to an opposite conclusion.

(07-10-2014 04:14 PM)Matt Forney Wrote:  EDIT: I forgot to add that legalized gay marriage will in part become a major enabler for homosexual child rapists. Here's an example of a gay couple that adopted a child so they could use him as their personal sex toy.

I can guarantee you that there are other stories like this, but the media has suppressed them for obvious reasons. If it turned out that pedophiles were using gay marriage and gay adoption to obtain children to rape, why, that wouldn't fit with the narrative at all! Don't you realize that "love shouldn't be illegal" and "we're all the same inside"?

Under the current system podophelia is totally incurable.

Death penalty in itself unless in rare circumstances is only adding to the barbaric state of the world (apart from the fact that some "offenders" have been convicted on false allegations). A primitive society kills in revenge, as if death is such a terrible punishment for the person. Public executions as well as the current hidden ones are just inducing more primitive instincts and behavior patterns among mankind.

Pedophiles should be getting triple life and be put into the toughest parts of the penal system. Usually they won't survive long anyway.

Personally I have no problem with killing people under circumstances of self-defense, war etc, but doing it in an organized fashion is just going towards the slippy slope of medieval torture-executions. Those societies are usually fucked-up on even more levels than ours.