Post: #26

Approaches 171

Blown out 8 times today out of 11 approaches, sorority girls. got laughed at by a frat guys was pretty humiliating, even bartender didn't serve me, other 3 soft no's. the nyc competition seems easier than this. If you're in college, join a frat - that simple. idk what im doing anymore. just going to keep approaching and analyzing the previous approaches. feel pretty lonely even though i have plenty of friends - betas though. football game tomorrow, tailgate and will go out again.

thanks travesty, its literally only a few forum members who keep me going but even then its tough

Post: #27

(08-23-2014 02:02 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  struggling here. I keep making the same stupid mistakes. trying to make active changes, but easier said than done. idk what im doing. back at college, you would think freshman girl would be easy for me now. nope

what would you have me do

Blackliter,

You have one thing down that many players struggle with: Balls.

Fuck, most guys would have given up by now. Guys struggle with this their whole life and you've already sorted it out.

That said, I do see areas for improvement, one longer term one immediate...

We've met so I hope you don't mind me saying (acknowledging I'm a work in progress myself):

1) you need to LIFT ! you don't have a physical presence. This should be a 2 year project...pick starting strength, 5x5, whatever, just be consistent and in 2 years have a build that shows you are in the gym

2) You need better STYLE! you can fix this immediately. You were dressed sloppy both times we met. Hit up uniqlo, pick up 3 outfits that FIT well. the
dudes working there can help

With your balls, sorting out the items above will help you tonnes. You're young and the future is bright.

0ne final thing...TARGET SELECTION; i hope you're not opening the model leaving equinox on prince street; you're not there yet.
aim for low lying fruit the FOB asian girl who looks new to nyc

Post: #28

thanks will take that all into account. and I don't mind you saying, I prefer everyone to be frank and just tell the hard truth. I've been doing starting strength for awhile now, just need to eat more (thats where Im lacking).

didn't realize my fit was off on the shirts, thanks. and will do on target selection.

Post: #29

Wearing clothes bigger than necessary is a common mistake. I recently threw out half the stuff in my closet because i was doing the same for years...

Flip through a GQ and look at how clothes fit on guys;

You shouldn't be swimming in it. And your tops shouldn't go much lower than the middle of a button fly.

Post: #30

It sounds like you need to convert some of these numbers to bangs. That will keep you focused and make you see that it pays off. I would shoot for 10%. Its not hard to achieve, but you need to figure out your logistics and strengths/weaknesses.

Post: #31

177 approaches

house party, couple indirect approaches, 1 direct which resulted in 1 number. 2 chubbies were giving me attention but i just couldn't get attracted to them. there were two 7.5s I talked to both but the taller one was kinda taken by my friend though she just kept rejecting him. Was never able to insert and get her number. The other one I just talked to her and told her she was cute and that she should give me her number - got it. prob not much of a shot but whatever.
logistics are not the problem

Post: #32

182 Approaches

Shot down on all 5, too drunk. The pre-game party had me take round 9 shots of tequila. gone after that. The approaches were sloppy, couldn't keep coherent. was told i was trying too hard, relaxed after that. laid on the floor till i got sober enough to shower.

Post: #33

191 approaches

Half-day game half night. 3 numbers out of the 9. 1 keeps texting me back, haven't started with the other 2 to keep the suspense.

Struggling with isolation. Girls keep stopping me from breaking them away from their friends groups in college. Or the bar has a bad layout for isolation and the friends just bottle-neck the only exit.

Bought some fitted shirts! and bought a nice dress watch.

Post: #34

Try skinny jeans too and see how they look.

Post: #35

Approaches 195

Hitting the gym religiously every other day. 115lb squat (40lb improv since start), 115lb deadlift, 95lb bench
Bench is killing me, I'm barely getting the last reps on last set completed, always need someone to spot me for it. stuck on that weight for 1.5 weeks now.

4 daygame more approaches, 2 numbers. What the hell, this is soo frustrating. I can tell that the 2 numbers will flake. Literally hitting all the right buttons, making them laugh, bullshitting about whatever. Idk why but just not generating enough attraction.

Sitting at 6 numbers, all invited to a house party, and maybe 1 might show up.. so fucking annoying. I don't get how complete idiots randomly have girls fall into their lap.

I want better luck.

Post: #36

Night game at a college party or bar should focus on girls who are in pairs or solo. Lower the standards to 5s to get some successes and to get on tbe board.

Don't even think about phone numbers. Go for makeouts or busts the same night. Even the most accomplished players get flaked on with phone numbers. Better to get rejected then stuck in phone/text flaking hell.

Do you have a good wing?

Post: #37

(07-12-2014 09:59 AM)Vicious Wrote:  You shouldn't bother trying to connect with a stripper emotionally. Most of them are dead inside and just out for the next rush. You have to make it about adventure, excitement, indulgence and instant gratification.

Turn up the volume for an important game announcement:

Post: #38

I don't have any wing. have to do it all solo. all of my close friends are good-looking betas who are intelligent. girls just fall into their laps and essentially ask them out in college.

New maxes on squat and deadlift: 125lb, still at 95lb on bench. I don't think my arms were ever fully developed till now.

Post: #39

Still at it. just slow changes. Playing the social circle game now in college. Annoying how all my white friends around me get multiple tinder dates/bangs, the players and the incompetent ones, both get similar chances.

Essentially just working on volume of voice/gift of gab & presence/size and charisma. Main 3 for foundation.

Rest is easy after you've been reading game material for awhile, like frame/shit test control, isolation, the kino ladder, when to go for it, change venue, etc.

From studying the players, who routinely get laid every 3 or 4 days around me, it's the gift of gab that takes you the farthest. Nothing else matters so much. Next would be charisma, confidence, and body posture, then would be physical size and looks. And I've been a quiet introvert most of my life, so the change will take some time. making improvements though

Post: #40

Well, hit 200 approaches today.. 3 months later. Approached a grocery girl who took my groceries to my car. Said she had a boyfriend at the end, but I pushed it and was like I'm better, etc and kept talking to her.

By the end of it I already knew what I did wrong, came off as non-threatening. Wouldn't play the full out masculine card and be that edgy guy.. I would just revert back to friendzone-y type approach. My conversational skills with girls are the same.. (like come-on 1 year later, I'm the same? maybe marginally improved)

Twiddling my thumbs as Travesty, Gio, my NYC Roosh buddies, Mcqueen have probably made 200 approaches within my span of 5. the guys I've talked to and the friends around me where I am are actually getting laid every week.

No, I'm just frustrated with myself. If I could fight myself, I would. Like usual I've aced my classes/career stuff. Been going to the gym for 4 months now but slacked on diet so minimal gains.. smh. why the fuck would I do that lol.

Considered hiring an escort just to get the ball rolling. was told by the escorts no and to wait lol.. so guess im doing it the hard way and using game.
I want a solution. Why would I procrastinate so much on this, when it matters so much to me.. (kicking myself for that)
Have an overload of information in my head, why can I not just act on all of it. If I could act on 50% of the game information I have from Roosh forums, my friends/mentors, I would get laid today.

I'm just going to keep trying. To be honest, can't quit, too much invested. I don't give a fuck. I'm just gonna keep going hahah