Post: #1

Seriously, my mind is about to explode over this mainstream sensationalistic nonsense right here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/mill...s-marriage

Too much to unpack right now, but I'm sure it'll get yr blood boiling over the 'decline'. Crazy amounts of hamster thinking on hookup culture, etc. especially:

1) the college girl who has taken 29 cocks and fantasizes about getting married 'someday' after she tires of the carousel.

2) the guy who has rationalized that it's okay for his girlfriend to sleep around because that's what she wants, and, yknow, feminism.

Unreal.

Post: #2

Makes me wonder why the media, schools, government all promote such a lifestyle as being healthy. Really opinions stating the contrary are simply not allowed or completely ignored. Something is at stake here and no one gives an answer.

A lot of this has really vamped up in the ten years, makes me wonder what will happen in the next decade. How many other taboos can be explored.

Post: #3

(07-02-2014 02:55 PM)silviophonic Wrote:  Too much to unpack right now, but I'm sure it'll get yr blood boiling over the 'decline'.

This is a forum for vagina enthusiasts, not an anti-vice society

>2014
>getting mad about a Rolling Stone article on sex

Post: #4

^^^ nah bro it's a forum for game and improving yourself. Whatever game ur going for.

Post: #5

Another article, another chance for me to try and school everyone on what's up with it.

For those who don't know me, I spent my whole life in media. We didn't tell stories, we shaped them. Editors assigned stories with a clear cut idea of what the outcome would be and writers filled that order. Or the reverse.

As I've said many times here, if you turned in something they disagreed with, it got turned back and you got a "kill fee." This happened to me several times. The most notable incident was five years ago. I was assigned a Michael Jackson piece and came to the conclusion he lived irresponsibly and should be remembered primarily as someone who orphaned his own kids due to his lifestyle. The article never saw the light of day.

When you want to asses a story, look at the publication and who the writer is. We already know Rolling Stone's agenda. But what about the writer, Alex Morris?

First off, Alex is a she. Never trust a female writer who attempts to pass herself off as male, whether she's shortening her name or using initials (i.e. mindless right wing attention whore S.E. Cupp).

Second, here is a list of what Morris churns out for Rolling Stone. She is the one who got Belle Knox's name on the cover and gave her the high holy mass treatment with a story.

It's gotten to the point where I don't even read most publications anymore. And why bother? The next generation doesn't read long form articles. This is one reason I got out of the field, and the major reason writing has gone from reporting to sensationalistic crap. Like the article posted here. Which won't be read by 99 percent of Millennials and represents even less a percent than that.

Post: #6

Entire article reads like one long vocal fry. Unimpressive.

Post: #7

I should address the substance of this article.

Every generation likes to think it's the one breaking barriers and doing new things. Writers capitalize on this with articles like the above. This especially goes for when they write about women, who seem to be "liberated" in new and exciting ways every time a deadline approaches.

My feeling for the reason behind such articles -- at least the ones written by women -- is that these articles are deliberately penned to taunt men. They're written to say "Look at all the sex everyone else is having and you're NOT getting!"

In other words, sex articles written by women are the equivalent of them wearing see-through clothes or stripper heels.

But the truth is, no matter how much they try and sex the place up, the fact remains that every generation is more or less the same. Yes, there are more kids born out of wedlock now. But for the most part, people go to school, pair off, and have kids. So how to you "prove" morals are supposedly changing?

You find outliers.

Being from Generation X, I've seen this all before. We had outliers too. One example: When spring break rolled around my sophomore year, 99 percent of us didn't go to Florida. A small group of kids did and of course one or two of the girls spent their time in wet t-shirt contests and the like.

When it came time for the school paper to report on spring break, who do you think they discussed? The kids who stayed home and studied? The ones who went to Florida with their significant other and got tans? Or the small percent of outliers who went down, went insane and got naked?

Needless to say, it was the last of this group who got all the press. And then the parents and administrators who read the paper thought "My God, this generation has gone mad! They're all like the (early) Beastie Boys!!" They didn't think about the other (boring) kids, even though they saw those kids every day.

So who are we seeing every day? Not Belle Knox.

To add to this, back in the day I witnessed all sort of weird stuff, from kids who had to be hospitalized from drugs to girls who had group sex to a guy who lived with two girls and sexed them both up (all were hideous, no need to get excited).

These were the weird kids. The rest were boring. I don't remember their stories because there is no "story" there, just average lives. Nothing that would make Rolling Stone, in other words.

(Addendum: Also make it a point to ignore any stats they throw out, because self-reported sex stats are hella unreliable. And regarding women and same-sex experiences, that was going on too back in Gen X. The difference was, back then it wasn't openly discussed. Now it is. Hence the changes in statistics about it.)

Post: #8

Man, this shit makes me as mad as VICE articles.

Post: #9

"Yes, that is because people believe in progress and culture," said G. "There is no progress whatever. Everything is just the same as it was thousands, and tens of thousands, of years ago. The outward form changes. The essence does not change. Man remains just the same. 'Civilized' and 'cultured' people live with exactly the same interests as the most ignorant savages. Modem civilization is based on violence and slavery and fine words. But all these fine words about 'progress' and 'civilization' are merely words."

Post: #10

Best part: Dude in Silicon Valley who is addicted to porn, in every way imaginable a virgin, and he wants sex to be special. Also, he is a NoFapper.

Worst part: The author not realizing that the only thing that has truly changed is that women are less judged on their sexual proclivities.

Journalism is not strong with this one. Sensationalism is.

Post: #11

(07-03-2014 12:09 AM)plebhunter Wrote:  Man, this shit makes me as mad as VICE articles.

That is usually the sole purpose of a Vice article.

Whereas this piece, is an attempt to be groundbreaking; pseudo-journalism.

Post: #12

I liked The Rolling Stone's articles on the financial crisis and somewhat on global warming, but when it comes to sociology, psychology and sexuality, they are completely in the dark. Absolutely no logical thinking or coherence at all.

Post: #13

It's an entertainment rag what do you expect? These were the same collection of tools that put the face of the boston bomber on their front cover to sell a few more copies. They have no moral or ethical compass at all.

Post: #14

Matt Taibbi is the saving grace of that magazine.

Come to think of it, and I think DOBA would agree, he may be one of the only remaining real journalists in the West.

Post: #15

(07-02-2014 10:43 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  I should address the substance of this article.

Every generation likes to think it's the one breaking barriers and doing new things. Writers capitalize on this with articles like the above. This especially goes for when they write about women, who seem to be "liberated" in new and exciting ways every time a deadline approaches.

My feeling for the reason behind such articles -- at least the ones written by women -- is that these articles are deliberately penned to taunt men. They're written to say "Look at all the sex everyone else is having and you're NOT getting!"

In other words, sex articles written by women are the equivalent of them wearing see-through clothes or stripper heels.

But the truth is, no matter how much they try and sex the place up, the fact remains that every generation is more or less the same. Yes, there are more kids born out of wedlock now. But for the most part, people go to school, pair off, and have kids. So how to you "prove" morals are supposedly changing?

You find outliers.

Being from Generation X, I've seen this all before. We had outliers too. One example: When spring break rolled around my sophomore year, 99 percent of us didn't go to Florida. A small group of kids did and of course one or two of the girls spent their time in wet t-shirt contests and the like.

When it came time for the school paper to report on spring break, who do you think they discussed? The kids who stayed home and studied? The ones who went to Florida with their significant other and got tans? Or the small percent of outliers who went down, went insane and got naked?

Needless to say, it was the last of this group who got all the press. And then the parents and administrators who read the paper thought "My God, this generation has gone mad! They're all like the (early) Beastie Boys!!" They didn't think about the other (boring) kids, even though they saw those kids every day.

So who are we seeing every day? Not Belle Knox.

To add to this, back in the day I witnessed all sort of weird stuff, from kids who had to be hospitalized from drugs to girls who had group sex to a guy who lived with two girls and sexed them both up (all were hideous, no need to get excited).

These were the weird kids. The rest were boring. I don't remember their stories because there is no "story" there, just average lives. Nothing that would make Rolling Stone, in other words.

(Addendum: Also make it a point to ignore any stats they throw out, because self-reported sex stats are hella unreliable. And regarding women and same-sex experiences, that was going on too back in Gen X. The difference was, back then it wasn't openly discussed. Now it is. Hence the changes in statistics about it.)

Yes, this. And your previous post. Thanks for dropping the knowledge and insight, and crystallizing my inchoate thoughts on this article. The one thing I will add is that when articles like this come out in mainstream mags, who are, for better or worse, considered cultural barometers, they set the tone of the conversation and resets what is considered the 'norm' a bit, even though we know the folks in the article are sensationalized outliers.

But all good. I get it. The world keeps spinning. Folks will continue to pair up as they've done for thousands of year. The game continues to be played, in all it's varied forms..

Post: #16

Thanks for saving my time from having to read it.

Are their Berghain article any good? These two were on my reading list from The Rolling Stone.

Post: #17

It's ironic that this year-old post would get revived.

To recap, the story linked here was titled "Tales From the Millennials' Sexual Revolution." It recounted the oh-so-wild sexual experiences millennials were allegedly having and attempted to pass this off as how they were a new, liberated generation.

I begged to differ in my comments above. As a former writer, I explained how writers found "outliers" in order to sell sensationalist bullshit and pass it off as the norm.

Example: If 99 kids stayed home on spring break and one kid went to Florida and got wild, writers would profile the one kid. While they'd be telling the truth factually, they would be lying contextually.

From the looks of things, this article was a lie contextually, just as I thought.

In the last few months we've seen a spate of articles on how millennials are actually having less sex than their Gen X/Boomer counterparts.

That's a Washington Post link and one of many on this subject. Here's the money quote: "Millennials tend to be cool with casual relations -- but they’ve probably had fewer partners than lovers of previous generations, new research suggests."

And so, in conclusion, it looks like Rolling Stone has sold everyone another piece of fiction masquerading as fact -- all to push an agenda (see my comments above about that). They should retitle the article ""Tall Tales From the Millennials' Sexual Revolution."

Post: #18

Seriously, do you think there will be a tipping point in this nonsense? How far can the rabbit hole go?

Post: #19

DoBA incredible breakdowns!

Post: #20

(07-03-2014 01:58 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  It's an entertainment rag what do you expect? These were the same collection of tools that put the face of the boston bomber on their front cover to sell a few more copies. They have no moral or ethical compass at all.

The problem being is that it fuels the fires of those who are on the same page as them. If it is in print "then it must be true!" is their hallmark.

Post: #21

There must be a reason why there are no studies reporting mean / median notch count by notch and gender.

Post: #22

(08-14-2015 04:42 PM)polar Wrote:  There must be a reason why there are no studies reporting mean / median notch count by notch and gender.

It's really the break down by percentile that would be interesting.

Classic 80/20.

Post: #23

Articles like this make me furious and a more passionate supporter of Roosh. Talk about self-hatred in part of the beta who can't respect himself and wants his girlfriend to cuckold him. The left does not want equality they want female hegemony where the women become men and the men women. They don't understand that men are not necessarily cheaters-and even on a patriarchical society- they have strong morals and loyalty to their girlfriends.

Post: #24

I just can't bring myself to even click on an RS link after they sensationalized a terrorist and hoaxed a rape scandal at UVA, but I like the comments here so I'm dropping by to say good work men.


:EDIT: I do want to mention this though:

(07-03-2014 01:22 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I liked The Rolling Stone's articles on the financial crisis and somewhat on global warming, but when it comes to sociology, psychology and sexuality, they are completely in the dark. Absolutely no logical thinking or coherence at all.

RS did make a great piece on HSBC bank's funding of the Mexican drug cartels and how they were given a mere slap on the wrist. I tried to give them a chance after the boston bomber, but then they come out with Knox and then the UVA case soon after.

Post: #25

Was flirting with the cute checkout girl at Whole Foods yesterday. She has a double major from an Ivy League school: journalism and theater.

She laughed when I called her Heidi and asked if it is wrong that I totally wanted to pull her pigtails...