Post: #1

I would like to hear opinions on this kind of common cases, I will put my experience of the last month just as an example (situations may vary off course):

Three times in the past month I have approached a nice girl in a Latin country while on a short bus ride (40 mins or so) this after receiving some IOI's ... I've approached indirectly and ended up sitting by her side, nice conversation, light touching, making her laugh a lot, casually holding her hand and day game as usual (note they are said to be single) ... When I think there is enough rapport established I tell her we exchange phone numbers to keep in touch and she replies that she will take my number and she will call [insert lame excuse here], I ask a couple more times and she doesn't comply. So that is basically the scenario.

What have I done? ... Well, gave her my number and hope she will call when she says she will. What has happened? ... None of them ever called. Enough of that.

So this is how I am handling it now:
After she ask for my number w/o wanting to give me hers I tell her that we have two options:

1- We both exchange numbers and give us the opportunity to get to know us better

2- None of us will give away the number and that opportunity will be missed.

So I ask her what she want's to do, 1 or 2?

Regardless the answer I will say in playful way ... ok there is a 3rd option ... why don't you come with me now to my area, we can have a slice of pizza, ice cream, beer etc (to try to get her to my place obviously) and we have a nice time and talk some more.

If she insists to only get my number to call me then I would ditch... I just say "well I think I'am going back to my window seat it was nice meeting you", put the earphones on or whatever.

My take by doing so is that there is a reason why she doesn't give out the number (even if she is showing all indicators that she is attracted to me), therefore I think there is 95% of chance she won't call if I give her mine ... I rather not give it to her and take the other 5% percent on dignity, coolness and self esteem by cutting the interaction cold (in a nice no big deal way)... It really feels so much better and portrays the right message of a no BS kind of guy !

I will just hit to another girl when I see a chance and that's it...

I would like to hear other points of view about handling these specific cases of the infamous "I will be the one to call you BS" on her end ....

Post: #2

There are a few reasons for that:

1. It's a rejection
2. She has a boyfriend

What to do:

1. In case of simple rejection: Never give her your number if she does not give you yours
Possible responses: "I am the man and I will call." "Are you hesitent, because you think I will plaster you with texts like some forlorn puppy? No sweat, I have better things to do with my time." There are a multitude of responses.

2. In case of likely boyfriend-scenario: There is a way to appear more R-selected and thus only be seen more as the lover and not the potential boyfriend. In this case you can say that you will be discrete etc. There are a few rules for that, but that might be a bit difficult for a Newbie.

I only give girls my number when I tell them to give me a text immediatelly. If they do not comply, then I wish them a good day and go. Some just want to be entertained by a clown.

Also sometimes you ask for the number too early or have not completed the attraction process sufficiently - that is a matter for learning Game.

Post: #3

(06-24-2014 02:52 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  There are a few reasons for that:

1. It's a rejection
2. She has a boyfriend

What to do:

1. In case of simple rejection: Never give her your number if she does not give you yours
Possible responses: "I am the man and I will call." "Are you hesitent, because you think I will plaster you with texts like some forlorn puppy? No sweat, I have better things to do with my time." There are a multitude of responses.

2. In case of likely boyfriend-scenario: There is a way to appear more R-selected and thus only be seen more as the lover and not the potential boyfriend. In this case you can say that you will be discrete etc. There are a few rules for that, but that might be a bit difficult for a Newbie.

I only give girls my number when I tell them to give me a text immediatelly. If they do not comply, then I wish them a good day and go. Some just want to be entertained by a clown.

Also sometimes you ask for the number too early or have not completed the attraction process sufficiently - that is a matter for learning Game.

Yes, all those scenarios were covered by tight game (Discrection if she is committed was suggested and all that) no newbie here ...

Keep in mind that the attraction process was only the short bus ride, they could get off the bus anytime ... But I can tell the attraction was there and enough quick rapport established, but then again I prefer to err on the aggressive side ... I agree with you not fall into her game even to keep a possibility open. However other fellows may choose to leave her the number just in case, specially if the girl is hot and the rapport was there ... is hard to decide sometimes

Post: #4

(06-24-2014 04:24 AM)Buitre Wrote:  However other fellows may choose to leave her the number just in case, specially if the girl is hot and the rapport was there ... is hard to decide sometimes

Seems like you did alright. I have given numbers in the past. Never worked and I was always left with a bad taste afterwards. The reason was because you relinquish frame, appear Beta by default and it actually weakens your Inner Game.

I have even seen guys who have managed to get numbers of famous actresses who have way more to lose by giving out her number to a guy who cold-approached her in the shopping mall just 15 minutes ago.

I have had married women slip me their numbers on a piece of paper while her husband was 10 feet away.

I have met girls who tossed numbers of interested dudes into the wind right in front of my eyes. When I asked one girl about it she said - ah - just 2 dudes in cab who gave me their numbers.

A woman who is interested in you will always give you her number or let you know nowadays. In many countries you can get a number quite easily and it does not mean anything. If not, then just let it go. She is simply not into you. I will never ever again leave a girl with my number. Exceptions may exist, but only confirm the rule.

BTW - there are probably ways to turn around the script if she asks for your number - "I don't give my number to strange girls I just met. They always turn out to be some crazy stalkers who are infatuated with me." (Saying it with a smirk.) She will respect you more for it. You can certainly think of other moves - if that does not work - NEXT!

Post: #5

Newbie thread.

Post: #6

I prefer when a girl asks for your phone and then puts her number in it.

Post: #7

I just met this hot latin girl in the street a few days ago. She had just moved here 3 weeks ago from Venezuela. It went well and we talked for almost 10 minutes about some cool stuff. I could have been more overtly sexual, but I definitely got some vibe across. She was interested and we built some rapport. Eventually, she has to go, and says her phone is out of batteries and she doesn't know her new phone number. So I write down my name and number (I had a notebook in my pocket), and she wrote her name in big, flowery letters and told me to hang on to it so I wouldn't forget her. Her last words: "I'll charge my phone and text you." Me: "You should."

Now I wish I hadn't have given her my number. Despite things going as well as they did, I think I failed a shit test. It's almost been 2 days and no contact. Instead, I wish I would have 1) pushed for an instadate and called her bluff on having to go, 2) denied her the number unless she really promised to contact me. It could also have been a veiled rejection too- in which case I should have pushed and gotten outright rejected rather than softly.

But I learned my lesson. I'll be ready next time.