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Ayaka Shiomura, 35, a female politician speaking before Japan's Metropolitan Government Assembly, was heckled and mocked by male members of the meeting for being childless and barren.

The story is here.

"Why don't you get married?"

"Can't you give birth?"

"You're the one who should get married as soon as possible!"

The point of her speech was to ask the government to give more "benefits" and "entitlements" to women. The usual whining about allegedly unequal pay and more free things from the government. Of course.

The Guardian's take on it is here:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ju...xist-abuse

These were some of the catcalls made from the gallery as she tried to speak. Of course, the media is trying to excoriate the men here for their "bad behavior", but the valid points here are conveniently ignored. They're trying to shame the male behavior here as sexist and horrible, but I think it's a refreshing attempt to speak the truth.

Japan has a very low fertility rate, which is getting lower, the the point that it is threatening their existence as a nation. Career women, with their infinite arrogance and sense of entitlement, care nothing about this, only about themselves.

Publish shaming of spinsterism may be on the rise in Japan, as men get fed up with watching their country dry up and blow away.

Post: #2

Interesting... Could be a ROK article in this... "UMC Feminism is unsustainable in the USA without illegal immigration" or something similar. I think Athlone has already written stuff close to that.

Post: #3

I hope we're finally going to start getting to the point where there's more of a general consensus that telling women to get short haircuts and waste their lives in cubicles makes life worse for everyone.

It can't be a coincidence that countries like Japan and the U.S. where these types of women are common also have a large surplus of men who are social dropouts like the herbivores and anime guys in Japan or the Bronies in the U.S. They don't realize they're doing this, but for every woman who is essentially married to her career, there's another dropout guy who can't get any pussy. I think Japan and the U.S. are two of the least sexually active countries and have some of the highest porn consumption.

Should it really be that hard to figure out that countries who are having issues with declining birth rates and lots of men with no incentive to contribute to their societies are also the ones where women are encouraged to be corporate slaves? Women aren't going to start families while spending 60 hours a week in an office.

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Ask the Labour government of the UK why they let in so many immigrants. The true answer is the declining national birth rate.

Trouble is they believe the immigrants for the most part will assimilate and become British and vote Labour all the time. Japan does not have a mass immigration policy and will feel the full force of this population decline.

Post: #5

Some interesting follow-ups here. The assemblywoman failed in her effort to try to punish the men who heckled her for being barren and childless:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/06...6ccAfldXQQ

The dorks at change.org did their usual round of worthless activism, circulating a petition that collected a large number of signatures. Yay!

I hope the time is approaching when we can honestly point the finger at those who are contributing to declining fertility, female hyper-careerism, and the destruction of the family.

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True, shows that we need people raised with traditional values from somewhere. The cost of not having such people in our society, is that we have to bring people in from half way around the world, and the culture too.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ju...xist-abuse

This female assembly member was speaking about childrearing and ways to increase the birth rate. What exactly does a 35yo childless woman have to say about childrearing? Put your money where your mouth is, I say.

I think the point of the hecklers was this: Don't play fertility goddess in your job if you don't believe in having a family of your own. Don't assert yourself as an expert on the solution when you are a part of the problem.

She got heckled because her lifestyle and her political stance are contradictory, not because she's a woman.

The real question is, why do news organizations act like she was the victim of a crime? Some politicians made another politician look stupid in a meeting. This isn't unusual. Politics is a question of persuading others. If she couldn't do it, she should come back with more persuasive policies and speeches, not cry and moan about it to every journalist she can find.

Since when is "oh, the mean men yelled at me!" an international headline?

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It's interesting that when male members of assemblies or parliaments get heckled, it's all about the "democratic process" and "good old politics".

But when a female gets heckled, well then, everyone loses their minds. It becomes "monstrous sexism":

http://www.japantrends.com/ayaka-shiomur...-assembly/

Especially if the heckling involves something that no one dare speak the truth about.

As Polymath notes in his post above, this is being treated as some sort of "crime" rather than a legitimate attempt to comment on a serious social problem that women are responsible for.

Post: #9

The only issue with the herbivorous men is that many may rise up in a swing of new wave nationalism which can't be good for us guys at RVF, but may cause rising birth rates as well as stability for the country in a way. I'm expecting violence and bloodshed ahead as the reactionary force will much more quickly gain power back in a country like Japan that is near homogenous with shared history and background(more of a nation state). Personally it makes me a bit antsy.

Post: #10

I'd be more than willing to go to Japan and help out their declining birth rate, just putting that out there.

Post: #11

I'm with Hades on this.

Post: #12

(06-22-2014 01:30 PM)Hades Wrote:  I'd be more than willing to go to Japan and help out their declining birth rate, just putting that out there.

I'd be happy to help her. Seriously, at my age I'd be happy to find a nice Japanese spinster in her mid-late 30s.

Post: #13

I blame the internet ...and tentacle porn.

Post: #14

(06-22-2014 12:58 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  I hope we're finally going to start getting to the point where there's more of a general consensus that telling women to get short haircuts and waste their lives in cubicles makes life worse for everyone.

Excellent formulation. That is the best way to put it.

Post: #15

WB.
For 35 she looks damn good compared to eh 35yr old you'd find in the west.

Post: #16

(06-22-2014 12:28 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Ayaka Shiomura, 35, a female politician speaking before Japan's Metropolitan Government Assembly, was heckled and mocked by male members of the meeting for being childless and barren.

(06-22-2014 01:43 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 01:30 PM)Hades Wrote:  I'd be more than willing to go to Japan and help out their declining birth rate, just putting that out there.

I'd be happy to help her. Seriously, at my age I'd be happy to find a nice Japanese spinster in her mid-late 30s.

Post: #17

I am seconding @Hades and @Hotwheels.

Planning to move there long-term anyway. Japan has successfully resisted most propaganda. Sure - women hardly reproduce, but that has a lot more reasons than feminist attitudes like in the West. Popping out 3 Ghetto-kids by age 20 is prevalent in some areas in the US and the UK, but I would not not wish to bond with anyone of those "ladies".

At least when a woman has a child in Japan she automatically is expected to be a traditional stay-at-home mom with a lot of restrictions put on her. Many women shy away from that. Married to a foreigner in Japan is thus quite attractive to her. Either way - I dig their feminine personality, but of course you would have to stay in Japan with her for that.

Post: #18

To me, what is critical about this story is what is being left unsaid. Buried in a recent article about women and the workforce in Japan, was this little nugget of pure, unadulterated RVF wisdom:

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Pampered wife, wise choice

Yet women are not simply being held back by the patriarchy. When the choice is between leisurely dependency in the home--known as sanshoku hirune tsuki ("three meals and a nap")--and the sorry life of a salaryman there is something to be said for putting your feet up. In wealthy places like Tokyo many women simply do not wish to work, says Takeshi Niinami, chief executive of Lawson, a chain of convenience stores.

Mariko Bando, author of "The Dignity of a Woman", a bestselling guide for women on how to succeed in the workplace, points out that many Japanese women do not feel they need a high-status job to enjoy high status. A well-educated woman working part-time in a supermarket will not see that job as defining her identity if she is the wife of, say, a high-ranking Mitsubishi Corporation executive.

Remarkably, women seem to have become more conservative about work in the past few years. In 1979, 70% of women agreed with the statement that "The husband should be the breadwinner and the wife should take care of the home". By 2004 that had fallen to 41%. But in 2012, perhaps because of the recession in 2007-09, just over half said they preferred to stay at home. A survey last year showed that a third of very young women want to become full-time housewives. Potential husbands, meanwhile, were less traditionalist: only one in five young men said he wanted his future wife to stay in the home.

Feminism has remained a timid force in Japan. The long economic boom that began in the 1950s was a national priority which left little room for questioning traditional roles in the home or workplace, says Chizuko Ueno, Japan’s best-known feminist. And women are not without power behind the scenes. Housewives control the family finances, and in the workplace so-called "office ladies" wield a lot of influence over the lives of salarymen, quietly hindering the careers of those they dislike.
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The main point here? It is that, deep down, Japanese women don't really want to work. There is no imaginary, evil patriarchy holding them back.

They simply want to fulfill their feminine nature, which is not to be a useless drone, shuffling papers from one side of a desk to another. The real truth is that most of them would prefer to stay at home. It is the degenerate feminist popular culture that is perverting their true natures.

I was in Japan a couple weeks ago and had a chance to see an old ex-GF from the 1990s. She was rather sad, to be honest. A single woman in her mid-40s, working in human resources, who was once very attractive but now is seeing her beauty in its declining stages. Her relationship history has been one failure after another, and now her domestic companion is a cockatoo bird.

Yet, she still found it necessary to lecture me about my female preferences.

Ah, the irony.


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Post: #19

Quote:I was in Japan a couple weeks ago and had a chance to see an old ex-GF from the 1990s. She was rather sad, to be honest. A single woman in her mid-40s, working in human resources, who was once very attractive but now is seeing her beauty in its declining stages. Her relationship history has been one failure after another, and now her domestic companion is a cockatoo bird.

Yet, she still found it necessary to lecture me about my female preferences.

Ah, the irony.

Let me guess. You should date a more experienced women who is strong and independent, and not worry about appearance?

Post: #20

We need Bang Japan

Post: #21

(06-22-2014 11:26 PM)CRR Wrote:  

Quote:I was in Japan a couple weeks ago and had a chance to see an old ex-GF from the 1990s. She was rather sad, to be honest. A single woman in her mid-40s, working in human resources, who was once very attractive but now is seeing her beauty in its declining stages. Her relationship history has been one failure after another, and now her domestic companion is a cockatoo bird.

Yet, she still found it necessary to lecture me about my female preferences.

Ah, the irony.

Let me guess. You should date a more experienced women who is strong and independent, and not worry about appearance?

It was more along the lines of trying to shame me for dating girls much younger than I am. I just laughed it off breezily and changed the subject.

She was cool in other ways, I suppose, and that counts for a lot.

But they never seem to outgrow their delusional nature. Most women are just as clueless at 40 as they are at 20.

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(06-22-2014 01:23 PM)polymath Wrote:  The real question is, why do news organizations act like she was the victim of a crime? Some politicians made another politician look stupid in a meeting. This isn't unusual. Politics is a question of persuading others. If she couldn't do it, she should come back with more persuasive policies and speeches, not cry and moan about it to every journalist she can find.

Since when is "oh, the mean men yelled at me!" an international headline?

Now that she ran off to the international media and made Japan look bad she violated the face and shaming rule in NE Asia. She's going to have it even harder now and essentially torpedoed her credibility forever. Japanese politicians are pretty red pill in general. They won't put up with this nonsense like politicians do in the U.S. where they have to constantly coddle the "womyn" demographic.

Post: #23

More benefits to women in Japan, really? If you ever talk to young females in Japan, they have their lives a lot easier than their males counterpart, (and yes companies are more willing to hire you if you have a pair of tits) what more could they possibly ask for I wonder.

Post: #24

What're the odds this broad studied abroad in the Anglosphere?

Post: #25

You guys spoke too soon. Oh dear:

Quote:He resigned his party membership, but insisted he would stay on as an assemblyman.

http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/15...ist-taunts