Post: #1

Can't believe I'm hearing this from Western women. Like a breath of fresh air:

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Post: #3

Better than nothin'!

Post: #4

This is advise for post wall women...but would be amazing if women in their prime followed this advise.

What that female coach said are things women already know at the back of their minds, just that women rationalize it to be a lie, so it won't help any women. What she needs to do is convince them that what they are doing is constructive by running the women's hamster. I just hope Australian women are not messed up and narcissistic like American women. Still blows my mind that majority of western women do not value self improvement. Every guy I know atleast hits the gym.

If these female coaches really wanted to help women, they would tell women to work hard to improve themselves,women need to get married young rather than sleep around until they hit the wall, have a high degree of humility and not have such crazy expectation of men and teach women that TV/magazines is not the same as real life, but then they won't make money that way, haha.

Post: #5

The last pretty young chick is part of a professional PUA crew - founded by a guy of course.

He uses her as online-bait.

Of course women can use parts of manosphere wisdom to improve the "Game" of men as well as women. It is just that they don't come up with anything new and sometimes stay clear from more "unwelcome" truths, as they can't help themselves. Of course hiring them as professional wing-women or sometimes coaches for complete newbies is fine.

Post: #6

Even "red pill" women water down or simply avoid talking about things that betray bad side of their nature. They're shit as coaches unless commanded by men to teach things in a way that is clear and honest.

Post: #7

Female dating coaches for men are a scam.

If you're a guy and you go to a woman for advice on how to pick up women (and pay her), that says a lot about you.

Post: #8

BTW - the first redhead is a dating coach. Looked a bit into her site. http://datingcoachdeanna.com/

It seems to me that she is actually Red Pill and learned from the manosphere. She probably tried to market Red Pill wisdom to women and she still does, but that kind of truth is hardly popular with the entitled delusional bitches of today, so I guess she offers her services to men as well. (The best sellers for women lie to them saying that age, looks and having a previous brat from another guy hardly matters.)

It is better than nothing at all, but of course guys should rather seek out men to learn from them. Will be by far more effective that way, unless you fall for some of the tricksters who tell you "Learn this one trick/line and be an instant pussy-magnet. Only 5000$." There are no shortcuts in life.

Post: #9

(06-13-2014 01:43 AM)Lucario Wrote:  This is advise for post wall women...but would be amazing if women in their prime followed this advise.

What that female coach said are things women already know at the back of their minds, just that women rationalize it to be a lie, so it won't help any women. What she needs to do is convince them that what they are doing is constructive by running the women's hamster. I just hope Australian women are not messed up and narcissistic like American women. Still blows my mind that majority of western women do not value self improvement. Every guy I know at least hits the gym.

If these female coaches really wanted to help women, they would tell women to work hard to improve themselves,women need to get married young rather than sleep around until they hit the wall, have a high degree of humility and not have such crazy expectation of men and teach women that TV/magazines is not the same as real life, but then they won't make money that way, haha.

I know an 8 who works out every day and even does the whole vegan thing so that she can, "stay good looking for a husband."

They are out there. It's pleasant to see.

Post: #10

(06-13-2014 05:35 AM)MattC Wrote:  Female dating coaches for men are a scam.

If you're a guy and you go to a woman for advice on how to pick up women (and pay her), that says a lot about you.

I don't think it's possible for most women to respect a man who is seeking help to improve, whereas a man finds it easy to respect another man who is willing to put effort into it.

It always makes me uncomfortable seeing guys willing to pay women for pickup advice, too much like 'rent-a-friendzone'.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #11

Based on those video thumbnails, WB all the dating coaches.

Post: #12

In that first video, she cites "physical appearance" as an important factor for marriageability.

Yup. Because we all know the incredibly high standards that American men have for their women when it comes to looks.

She mentions that she works in San Diego. This is a city with round-the-clock sunshine, good-looking people, and tons of nightlife. Another coaster who thinks that her advice is applicable to the America that exists between NY and LA.

Post: #13

I find it amusing--but not unexpected--that the PUA hater types never criticize or attack the female PUA coaches.

Amazing, isn't it?

Post: #14

(06-13-2014 09:33 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  I find it amusing--but not unexpected--that the PUA hater types never criticize or attack the female PUA coaches.

Amazing, isn't it?

They also never acknowledge that female MRAs exist. Female PUAs are even worse for them - teaching the Art of Manipulation and Mental Rape.

Post: #15

(06-13-2014 08:32 AM)Benoit Wrote:  It always makes me uncomfortable seeing guys willing to pay women for pickup advice, too much like 'rent-a-friendzone'.

Post: #16

Thanks for posting those vids. The Kezia one gave me two great lines I can use in-field if I get any kind of age-objection. : )

Also, Kezia video has almost half a million views. If I were a PU company, I'd pay very close attention to this and hire a babe with big boobs to deliver the message. Who cares who the messenger is, just give me the product, I'd rather my pizza be delivered by a babe with boobs than some random dude.

For visual mediums? BOobz baby, BoObz.

Post: #17

(06-13-2014 05:35 AM)MattC Wrote:  Female dating coaches for men are a scam.

If you're a guy and you go to a woman for advice on how to pick up women (and pay her), that says a lot about you.

A big rule in learning game: women don't know what they want. They try to project what men find attractive onto what women find attractive.

I have watched stuff involving the "big three" female dating coaches. Kezia basically took all of PUATraining's stuff and re-branded it. She can't teach. Marni "Your wing girl" is a) married and b) boring as all hell. I watched something she did with another company, and I couldn't get through it. Erika Awakening seems psychotic in her quest to destroy Mark Manson.

By the way, if you can believe Ross Jeffries, apparently Gambler believes that Kezia isn't particularly good.

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(06-13-2014 02:13 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Erika Awakening seems psychotic in her quest to destroy Mark Manson.

Oh my god. I've read her blog. The hamster on that woman...

Every now and then a dating coach comes along who is truly "for entertainment purposes only."

Post: #19

Also, relevant:

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."
— 1 Timothy 2:12

Post: #20

(06-13-2014 02:23 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Also, relevant:

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."
— 1 Timothy 2:12

Exactly. The problem may not even be in the form that she is somewhat experienced as a teacher or a wingman for the beginner.

It is just that the average Omega/Beta who starts to learn Game and wants to be more Alpha - would be again working UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF A WOMAN, while he should be learning to take command over the frame with all women.

In my opinion it is counterproductive for his INNER GAME. Especially with coaching there is a lot going on subconsciously and you can learn by osmosis/empathy just realizing what the experienced Player is doing right. That falls completely flat with a woman regardless whether she can help you get laid that night and regardless whether she has memorized the entire PUA/manosphere wisdom - you still learn way less.

Post: #21

The British hottie in the third video...

"The ones (older guys) that are slightly arrogant and know they've got this gift...Even though (glance up in a ditzy way) us girls don't want this to be attractive...it is."

Post: #22

The only real advice from women comes from women one has actually fucked.In this case they have nothing to lose and tell the truth.I got great advice from women on Czech girls,polish girls,Ukrainian,Russian girls only after banging them.

Post: #23

Anyone else notice how both of them have that 1000-cock stare?

Post: #24

(06-13-2014 02:13 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

(06-13-2014 05:35 AM)MattC Wrote:  Female dating coaches for men are a scam.

If you're a guy and you go to a woman for advice on how to pick up women (and pay her), that says a lot about you.

A big rule in learning game: women don't know what they want. They try to project what men find attractive onto what women find attractive.

I have watched stuff involving the "big three" female dating coaches. Kezia basically took all of PUATraining's stuff and re-branded it. She can't teach. Marni "Your wing girl" is a) married and b) boring as all hell. I watched something she did with another company, and I couldn't get through it. Erika Awakening seems psychotic in her quest to destroy Mark Manson.

By the way, if you can believe Ross Jeffries, apparently Gambler believes that Kezia isn't particularly good.

Kezia was taught all of her info by a notorious scammer. She made PUA stuff more appealing by posting videos showing off her cleavage. She's the biggest scammer there is. One look at her videos shows she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about.

Post: #25

Kezia was coached to say,
“older men naturally possess the characteristics and traits that women find attractive in men”

Just change to
Girl: “you’re old”
Wallet: “umm, older men possess the characteristics and traits that women naturally find attractive in men”
Girl: “pfft, who do you think you are” or,“like???” “pls”
Wallet: “I have life experience and a character with more substance and depth, more self-awareness, composure, confidence” said with a subtle smile and slowly.

Even if the girl says “don’t care”…I still have made a good case for myself and haven’t been deflated. Good offence is good defence.

She says “an older guy who is shy or kind of unsure about himself”…Huge turn-off.

This needs to be heard, and repeated often. I know guys like myself, who must tape this to their mirrors to get the fck over this. Can you imagine how laaaame it must seem to a young women to have a grown man act unsure of himself around her. She’d give a guy her age a pass for visible insecurities, but, an older guy….not an effin’ chance.

Whoever’s feeding Kezia this script? I could care less, I got a good rebuttal for an age objection out of her video.

At :22 seconds, “then pay close attention to this video” looks down once, then again,
towards her boobs. That was no accident. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ross Jeffries himself showed her that little move.

Just goes to show that 1 ) she’s being coached on what to say and how to act, so it’s not really “Kezia Noble” who is the dating coach, although it would be hard not to learn once you’ve been coached enough,

and 2 ) the impotency of little NLP tricks. The little downward glances are irrelevant. Imagine a plain jane doing that, we’d think it was tacky. HER LOOKS are what are doing it. Just as a guys looks and dress are the best way to get past a barrier of entry.

“The balance of scientific evidence reveals NLP to be a largely discredited pseudoscience. Scientific reviews show it contains numerous factual errors,[14][16] and fails to produce the results asserted by proponents”

You don't say.