Post: #26

User,
I don't think it would be optimal to break it up that way, and probably wouldn't be that price effective either. Is there a reason you feel like you want to see those three cities. I imagine you'd find more in common with them than differences, though Davao is probably more different than the other two (I've not been there, but spent time in Manila and Cebu). If I were you, unless you're planning on sight seeing, a pretty thin enterprise in the cities you mentioned, I'd spend two thirds of my time or all of my time in one location, probably Manila, perhaps with an intra Philippines beach trip to Palawan (I've not been there, but I've been to Boracay, and I'm not a huge fan - you can check my data sheet - anyway, Palawan seems to be the favored beach destination); or alternatively, go to Davao (or Cebu), base out of Davao (or Cebu) for a month, and hit some beaches and smaller cities not too far from your home base city.

(05-31-2014 06:43 PM)username Wrote:  -I will be in the Philippines for 30 days and was thinking 10 Manila, 10 Cebu, and 10 Davao, good idea or not?

Post: #27

You can def day game, a lot of these girls don't have jobs or full time study so they go to the mall and walk around without enough money to buy anything. Most would jump at the chance to talk with an exotic foreigner but the majority are super shy so it seems they come off as cold. The real trouble is at night, getting a conservative girl to leave with a foreigner they just met in front of their friends, haven't figured this out. Online goes without saying, like others said can be hard to find a stunner online though. I didn't have multiple girls in one day but that doesn't make it impossible, the swoop the world posts are spot on, except for Makati that place is such a shit hole

I wouldn't buy them presents until after i banged them. i thought a lot about how buying them things (besides dinner) and how it effects your value/chances of getting laid, i think it actually a negative for you, but only a tiny hit + you're saving money. Same thing with meeting the families, not helping your chances but probably not much of a differences either way.

Half agree with the phone numbers, they never went anywhere unless i got them from online, and something weird going on with the service - messages not getting sent to valid numbers happened a few times, girls not having load, girls not having charged phones :/

Never had trouble taxi's, they all had meters. Trikes will rip you off but it's like less than a dollar...

Post: #28

Quote:If you are a "Pickup Artist" please DON'T come to Davao!! This is simply not the right place for you. I don't mean to critize PUAs or turn this post into some kind of political debate. What I am saying is, if your goal is just simply scoring a high notch count, then there are other places in the world which are far more suitable for that!
Girls in Davao are almost without exception genuine, sweet and caring. If you want to be some kind of asshole, pulling chicks every night, then dumping them the next morning, not paying for their meals etc; then there is a perfect place for that: It's called the WESTERN WORLD. Please go there.

LOL come on OP. Basically say you get all your girls on pipelining from Filipino Cupid. If a girl is on a cupid website she is looking to get fucked. No doubts about it. All those innocent girls are getting stuffed left and right. This portion of your sheet sounds very white knightish. Interesting data sheet though, might have to visit Philippines when it gets cold in Europe. Probably stay in Manila though, god Davao looks like a crap hole.

Did you approach in the malls consistently to get to the conclusion that day game is impossible? How good are you in day game back in Germany. If day game is not your strong suit in Germany, perhaps that's why you had your bad experiences here.

Post: #29

(06-01-2014 08:35 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  LOL come on OP. Basically say you get all your girls on pipelining from Filipino Cupid. If a girl is on a cupid website she is looking to get fucked.

No question. You are absolutely right! That doesn't make them any less sweet and caring though!
And I've not once been asked for money or anything like that, I would really like to emphasize this!

(06-01-2014 08:35 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  Did you approach in the malls consistently to get to the conclusion that day game is impossible? How good are you in day game back in Germany. If day game is not your strong suit in Germany, perhaps that's why you had your bad experiences here.

I left Germany permanently to live in East-Europe, Budapest. Germany is an utter shithole socially and a complete desert when it comes to girls. You can and will not learn any "game" there.
In hindsight, one of the worst things that happened to me was being born in Germany. The only good thing about that country is the passport. Grab it, and get out.

Post: #30

(06-01-2014 08:35 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  LOL come on OP. Basically say you get all your girls on pipelining from Filipino Cupid. If a girl is on a cupid website she is looking to get fucked. No doubts about it. All those innocent girls are getting stuffed left and right. This portion of your sheet sounds very white knightish.

This deserves to be repeated.

None of these girls are special.

Show me a "sweet" special little snowflake and there's definitely someone on this forum (not me necessarily) who can turn her into their full fledged slut.

Post: #31

I don't even know what to think about this data sheet. I like the idea of the videos and pics. I would like to see more data sheets with these things. I talked to rhr a good bit via email about the Phils before his trip. Seems like a cool a guy and someone I would meet up and have a beer and game some girls with. However theres some things in his data sheet that makes no sense to me and I wonder how he ended up coming up with these conclusions or put himself in a place to have his experience turn out the way it did.

A few key things that I can't grasp is that you can't pull girls from the mall? After being there for a few weeks and banging every hot girl from FilipinoCupid that was in Davao. I relied strictly on day game at the mall or night game from Hybrid. Gaming in the mall was like shooting fish in a barrel.

Can't walk anywhere? I walked from JND to Abreeza everyday and JND to Gasino mall 4 or 5 times (that was a good walk cause theres some kind of school in between the two places and if you hit it at the right time theres a ton a girls out) I was mainly walking JP Laurel road which is one of the busiest roads in Davao

I didn't even consider getting a driver. I walked, took jeepneys, or got taxis very easily. You can open your door and yell down to the girl at JND (was a cool girl named Carisa when I was there) An tell her to call you a cab an within ten minutes you hear a horn beep and go get in the cab. All the cabs in Davao have meters, Every fucking cab in Manila tried to rob the fuck out of me.

As far as English the only people I ever encountered that had a little trouble with English was a few cab drivers.

I guess it just goes to show how different two peoples trips can be.

Post: #32

@Cr33pin

Thanks for your input bro! You were a MAJOR help for me discovering this beautiful city!

I guess a LOT has changed since the last time you were here. There are construction sites everywhere (as you can see in the vid) and, as I mentioned, coming from a european perspective, walking in this place is tidious and difficult. You simply cannot stroll down the streets with a girl in your arms or anything like that. This is clearly not Budapest where you walk for hours past one beautiful building next the other. This requires an adjustment and needs to be pointed out if part of your game relies on doing things like that.

As for the malls, everybody is different I guess. My success was 100% pipelining. With one girl (the crying one!) still messaging me DAILY!!!!

Obviously I love Davao - so much so, that my next flight is already booked and payed! I'm considering staying longterm in either Davao or Manila (love Manila too for different reasons) to escape the coming economic collapse in Europe.

Btw. I'm still very open to meeting you (or any of you guys)! I have spent far too little time in Davao and there is a lot to explore!
Peace out!

Post: #33

@Rhr:

The video you posted where you walk in the market--the girl giggling--is that the same teary girl that texts you mercilessly every day?

I've talked to many girls from Davao on Cherry Blossoms for the last few months (i'm going soon) and I've cammed with a few that can barely speak English. As well it seemed like they all thought of me as a player even before meeting me. Questions like "Are you meeting another girl at the airport?" and "Am I the only girl you're talking to?". Annoying.

A couple of questions:

1.) Did the girls in Davao assume you were a player?

If so, would they dump you because of it? I am thinking of telling them I'm there to write a novel and not "meet a girl". I am a novelist, after all, and can make up any story about the need for authentic cultural immersion for the sake of an enriching experience for my readers (nevermind that I often get around the need to fly by reading travel books).

2.) How similar is Davao to a place like Dumaguete? Any schools there? I am thinking it might be better than Davao simply bc of Silliman university. Lots of 18 year olds to game, but I don't know if the foreigner value is quite as high as in Davao and whether it would be harder for a guy in their late thirties to pull chicks.

Post: #34

(06-01-2014 03:08 PM)Soothesayer Wrote:  @Rhr:

The video you posted where you walk in the market--the girl giggling--is that the same teary girl that texts you mercilessly every day?

Yep. She is also the one whose family I decided to visit. She became my "main girl" after a week or so, i've not seen other ones after that. She is actually from Samal, not Davao.

Quote:I've talked to many girls from Davao on Cherry Blossoms for the last few months (i'm going soon) and I've cammed with a few that can barely speak English. As well it seemed like they all thought of me as a player even before meeting me. Questions like "Are you meeting another girl at the airport?" and "Am I the only girl you're talking to?". Annoying.

A couple of questions:

1.) Did the girls in Davao assume you were a player?

If so, would they dump you because of it? I am thinking of telling them I'm there to write a novel and not "meet a girl". I am a novelist, after all, and can make up any story about the need for authentic cultural immersion for the sake of an enriching experience for my readers (nevermind that I often get around the need to fly by reading travel books).

They were definitely questioning my motives! I didn't feel like lying so I just told them I wanted to visit the Philippines to see what life is like there. None of the girls had any trouble with that but some were wondering why I was alone. Again, the truth is that all my "buddies" back in good old Deutschland chickened out when things became serious. (you know, the typical "have to work"-excuse)

Quote:2.) How similar is Davao to a place like Dumaguete? Any schools there? I am thinking it might be better than Davao simply bc of Silliman university. Lots of 18 year olds to game, but I don't know if the foreigner value is quite as high as in Davao and whether it would be harder for a guy in their late thirties to pull chicks.

I can't say anything about Dumaguete, but if you have any success there, please let me know. I might come visit!!

Greets!

Post: #35

(06-01-2014 08:49 AM)rhr Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 08:35 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  LOL come on OP. Basically say you get all your girls on pipelining from Filipino Cupid. If a girl is on a cupid website she is looking to get fucked.

No question. You are absolutely right! That doesn't make them any less sweet and caring though!
And I've not once been asked for money or anything like that, I would really like to emphasize this!

Well I think your definition "sweet and innocent" must be a bit off then. Cause a girl saying how much she likes you while banging more guys on the side ain't the definition of sweet and innocent. One online girl I banged left her phone and turns out she was banging 3 other guys at the same time. One was her texting how much she misses him, poor chump.

Any online girl I meet is automatically thrown into the lowest bracket, just to be fucked and dumped. They wouldn't be online if they don't have some sort of mental / physical issue. I automatically assume any chick you meet online is going through the cock carousel. Which is why online game is usually a secondary source for me. Can be clutch if you are here for short term stays.

Any "sweet" or "innocent" girl you will meet in your life will probably through social networking.

Post: #36

(06-01-2014 08:35 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  Interesting data sheet though, might have to visit Philippines when it gets cold in Europe. Probably stay in Manila though, god Davao looks like a crap hole.

(06-01-2014 05:47 PM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  Well I think your definition "sweet and innocent" must be a bit off then. Cause a girl saying how much she likes you while banging more guys on the side ain't the definition of sweet and innocent. One online girl I banged left her phone and turns out she was banging 3 other guys at the same time. One was her texting how much she misses him, poor chump.

Any online girl I meet is automatically thrown into the lowest bracket, just to be fucked and dumped. They wouldn't be online if they don't have some sort of mental / physical issue. I automatically assume any chick you meet online is going through the cock carousel. Which is why online game is usually a secondary source for me. Can be clutch if you are here for short term stays.

Any "sweet" or "innocent" girl you will meet in your life will probably through social networking.

I'm confused.

Your first post implies that you've never been to Davao (it actually gives the impression you haven't been to the Phils period), but your second post says online game "can be clutch here for short term stays".

Where is here?

(06-01-2014 10:12 AM)Dagnasty Wrote:  This deserves to be repeated.

None of these girls are special.

Show me a "sweet" special little snowflake and there's definitely someone on this forum (not me necessarily) who can turn her into their full fledged slut.

Have you been to Davao or anywhere else in Mindanao? Everyone who has been here would agree that the women in general are much more conservative. This is not Manila.

Obviously many of them will put out for the right guy, but I fail to see how that makes them a "full fledged slut"...? I've already pointed out that (DIA in particular) has it's share of semi-pros and scandalous women, but that does not represent the norm.

Post: #37

(06-01-2014 07:02 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 08:35 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  Interesting data sheet though, might have to visit Philippines when it gets cold in Europe. Probably stay in Manila though, god Davao looks like a crap hole.

(06-01-2014 05:47 PM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  Well I think your definition "sweet and innocent" must be a bit off then. Cause a girl saying how much she likes you while banging more guys on the side ain't the definition of sweet and innocent. One online girl I banged left her phone and turns out she was banging 3 other guys at the same time. One was her texting how much she misses him, poor chump.

Any online girl I meet is automatically thrown into the lowest bracket, just to be fucked and dumped. They wouldn't be online if they don't have some sort of mental / physical issue. I automatically assume any chick you meet online is going through the cock carousel. Which is why online game is usually a secondary source for me. Can be clutch if you are here for short term stays.

Any "sweet" or "innocent" girl you will meet in your life will probably through social networking.

I'm confused.

Your first post implies that you've never been to Davao (it actually gives the impression you haven't been to the Phils period), but your second post says online game "can be clutch here for short term stays".

Where is here?

(06-01-2014 10:12 AM)Dagnasty Wrote:  This deserves to be repeated.

None of these girls are special.

Show me a "sweet" special little snowflake and there's definitely someone on this forum (not me necessarily) who can turn her into their full fledged slut.

Have you been to Davao or anywhere else in Mindanao? Everyone who has been here would agree that the women in general are much more conservative. This is not Manila.

Obviously many of them will put out for the right guy, but I fail to see how that makes them a "full fledged slut"...? I've already pointed out that (DIA in particular) has it's share of semi-pros and scandalous women, but that does not represent the norm.

Here means wherever I am at. Right now running sympatia game in Poland. Whenever your bored on a Sunday night, might as well shoot out openers. Quality is pretty bad though, at least in the capital.

Post: #38

Guys, I'll point out one thing about girls having various numbers.

For many of them, its a result of SMART and GLOBE networks not sharing texting plans. If I text a girl on SMART from a GLOBE phone, she has to pay for it, so she'll begin texting me back by swapping sim cards and using a SMART number, which will likely have an unlimited texting plan, and vice versa. Some girls will text from their aunt/sister/friends phone to send the text for free, because they're out of load or don't want to pay for the text - i know the money seems trivial to most of us, but to many of these girls, its not at all.

Most of the time its nothing more suspicious than frugality.

Post: #39

(06-01-2014 07:25 PM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  Here means wherever I am at. Right now running sympatia game in Poland. Whenever your bored on a Sunday night, might as well shoot out openers. Quality is pretty bad though, at least in the capital.

So you've never actually been to the Phils?

And the online girl you met who was banging 3 other guys wasn't from Davao?

Post: #40

I've never been Davao no. Phils i have been there on vacation, but no real gaming. These reports though have made me curious to go back and do some work. Based off my experiences with online dating, all the girls are pretty much used goods. Don't fall for the sweet talk bullshit.

Post: #41

But your online dating experience isn't in Davao. It's irrelevant to this conversation.

Post: #42

(06-01-2014 07:34 PM)G_global Wrote:  Guys, I'll point out one thing about girls having various numbers.

For many of them, its a result of SMART and GLOBE networks not sharing texting plans. If I text a girl on SMART from a GLOBE phone, she has to pay for it, so she'll begin texting me back by swapping sim cards and using a SMART number, which will likely have an unlimited texting plan, and vice versa. Some girls will text from their aunt/sister/friends phone to send the text for free, because they're out of load or don't want to pay for the text - i know the money seems trivial to most of us, but to many of these girls, its not at all.

Most of the time its nothing more suspicious than frugality.

Haha, no wonder the girl I'm dating was practically begging me to switch from Smart to Globe over and over. I didn't, and so she finally switched her number and now texts me ALL the time and never mentions that anymore...and now that I think about it, the reason for her wanting to change was a cost issue...I remember, I just sort of disregarded her messages regarding that at the time.

Oh! And then this other girl, she texts me infinitely, but then this other, other girl, I text her and she keeps mentioning how she doesn't have enough load, then a couple of days later, I get a text from a random phone number, and it's that same other, other girl, and she wants to text infinitely, and I'm thinking, "wait, didn't you say a couple of days ago you didn't have enough money for load?" I actually asked her that a couple of times, wondering what had changed in her personality that all of a sudden she wanted to text me non-stop, and before, she would mention the cost after every text, lol.

Good to know! If I decide to be single again, perhaps I'll just get another phone so I can have a Smart and a Globe phone.

Post: #43

^If you buy a phone here, most of them actually have two SIM card slots so you can use both networks.

The phone plans are extremely annoying. Besides for the texting, mobile minutes don't let you call landlines. So I'll have all these minutes and can't even order a pizza.

Post: #44

(06-02-2014 12:32 AM)Enigma Wrote:  ^If you buy a phone here, most of them actually have two SIM card slots so you can use both networks.

The phone plans are extremely annoying. Besides for the texting, mobile minutes don't let you call landlines. So I'll have all these minutes and can't even order a pizza.

Just checked, and mine does. Sweet!

This forum rocks.

Post: #45

What are some good food delivery services around here ?

I've tried greenwich and they have very good pizzas imo. and they are pretty cheap but their staff is seriously half retarded. No other food then pizza and some chicken.

I also tried yellow cab, seriously overpriced and bad tasting pizzas.

Is there any restaurant that delivers western meals like stakes and such ?

Post: #46

Rhr is an amateur. Considers taking a jeepney as some sort of courageous feat and thinks filming from the back of a scooter is an act of bravery.

Its why he thinks walking on the street is impossible and picking up girls from malls is a myth.

Rhr I think you should be up front about who you think is fabricating data or voluntarily remove yourself from this forum.

If you are drawing the conclusion that posters are lying based on the ever changing visa on arrival situation, then you are the one who needs to check his data.

Also, not many people give a flying fuck about brownouts when making travel plans. Just like before, your first world pampered upbringing has made you think this is some sort of natural catastrophe.

I haven't been to davao myself but Enigma's information is i perfect alignment with what my experience in the Philippines in general was.

Stop using so many exclamation points!

All that said, even this guy gets laid in the Philippines.

But theres a huge lesson here; see how he gets attached? Guaranteed that same girl still has an active dating profile.

Having game and knowing the nature of these girls will save you a lot of annoyance.

Post: #47

(06-02-2014 02:50 AM)Fisto Wrote:  Rhr is an amateur.

Never claimed otherwise.

(06-02-2014 02:50 AM)Fisto Wrote:  Also, not many people give a flying fuck about brownouts when making travel plans. Just like before, your first world pampered upbringing has made you think this is some sort of natural catastrophe.
(...)

My report is aimed at the avarage traveler, not somebody who has been in 50+ for multiple years. Somebody like that does not need a datasheet!

EDIT:

Quote: Guaranteed that same girl still has an active dating profile.

She does. Got a mail with her as a "potential" match. Decided to pay her a surprise visit to see what happens while keeping my options open.

Post: #48

For a professed amateur you're a little heavy handed with what is or isn't "possible".

You still haven't said who is lying or hyping their experiences.

Are you recanting those accusations or what?

Post: #49

Yeah I'm also still waiting to hear who is " spreading disinformation on this forum about Davao/ Philippines."

These accusations should not be ignored.
I read datasheets seriously and I expecting guys to write them in a honest non hyped up way.
If any information is in doubt these members need to be called out.
Either so they can explain themselves or being busted for spreading disinformation.

Time to man up and tell us rhr.

Post: #50

(06-02-2014 04:11 AM)Fisto Wrote:  You still haven't said who is lying or hyping their experiences.

What I'm saying is:
Travel and see for yourself. As long as you haven't done that consider everything you read with a (big) grain of salt.

Out.