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In an effort to understand the sexual behaviour and attitudes of young Tamils today, an anonymous survey was conducted with random respondents, mainly residing in Toronto, via an online survey. 16 Males and 16 Females, fairly evenly split between the ages of 18-35, participated. Of course, the sample size is very small and the study is informal, so interpret the results accordingly.

Here's what the survey shows:

• Most Tamils are having sex before marriage (56%)

• Tamil females engage in pre-marital sex more than Tamil males (69% of our female respondents had pre-marital sex, whereas 44% of males indicated the same)

• The average number of partners for Tamil females who had engaged in pre-marital sex was 3

• The average number of partners for Tamil males who had engaged in pre-marital sex was 5

• All of the female respondents over 24 had engaged in pre-marital sex, whereas some of the male respondents over 24 had not

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This is mind-boggling. The majority (56%) of Tamil males in Toronto are adult virgins! These numbers attest to just how hard up ethnic guys are in Toronto. The majority are not getting laid.

What accounts for this? And just how pervasive is the "ethnicel" phenomenon in Western cities?
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On a related note, new data is out from Australia showing that high schoolers are having less sex than they used to.

FYI: Year 10 is the 3rd last year of high school where most kids turn 16, and Year 12 is the last year of high school where most kids turn 18.

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In my town I see Indian and middle-eastern looking dudes everywhere. Sometimes my gym at night is half Indian guys. I never see them with any girls. They are just in small wolf packs of other fobby looking Indian guys. Often speaking their native language. I was chilling at the park today and saw two Indian dudes get out of a car and then hang out for awhile. They were speaking their language. Seemed kind of fobby but like they were trying to look cool at the same time. I was thinking there's no way these dudes can be getting laid. I never see these guys with women.

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One interesting thing to note from Deluge's graphic is the rise in homosexuality. Their advocates claim that you can't "catch" gay and exposing more people to it isn't going to turn them gay. The figure above if accurate seems to contradict that. The more prominent it's becoming in society the more people are participating in it.
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(05-04-2014 08:23 PM)Sri Lankan Wrote:  In an effort to understand the sexual behaviour and attitudes of young Tamils today, an anonymous survey was conducted with random respondents, mainly residing in Toronto, via an online survey. 16 Males and 16 Females, fairly evenly split between the ages of 18-35, participated. Of course, the sample size is very small and the study is informal, so interpret the results accordingly.

Here's what the survey shows:

• Most Tamils are having sex before marriage (56%)

• Tamil females engage in pre-marital sex more than Tamil males (69% of our female respondents had pre-marital sex, whereas 44% of males indicated the same)

• The average number of partners for Tamil females who had engaged in pre-marital sex was 3

• The average number of partners for Tamil males who had engaged in pre-marital sex was 5

• All of the female respondents over 24 had engaged in pre-marital sex, whereas some of the male respondents over 24 had not

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This is mind-boggling. The majority (56%) of Tamil males in Toronto are adult virgins! These numbers attest to just how hard up ethnic guys are in Toronto. The majority are not getting laid.

What accounts for this? And just how pervasive is the "ethnicel" phenomenon in Western cities?

Pretty damn widsespread. REALLY easy for a guy to get marginalized, lose his confidence, get Beta-ed. And once you're behind the eightball, it's so hard to get back.
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(05-04-2014 08:36 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  In my town I see Indian and middle-eastern looking dudes everywhere. Sometimes my gym at night is half Indian guys. I never see them with any girls. They are just in small wolf packs of other fobby looking Indian guys. Often speaking their native language. I was chilling at the park today and saw two Indian dudes get out of a car and then hang out for awhile. They were speaking their language. Seemed kind of fobby but like they were trying to look cool at the same time. I was thinking there's no way these dudes can be getting laid. I never see these guys with women.

Edit --

One interesting thing to note from Deluge's graphic is the rise in homosexuality. Their advocates claim that you can't "catch" gay and exposing more people to it isn't going to turn them gay. The figure above if accurate seems to contradict that. The more prominent it's becoming in society the more people are participating in it.

Most Indians under the age of 35 in Toronto are not FOBs. Most were born in Toronto or came at a very young age. So it's not just the FOB guys who are never with women. The born-and-raised in Toronto Westernized Tamil guys are also not getting laid. This is remarkable.

What's most interesting is that most Tamil guys in Toronto are virgins, while the only 1/3 of Tamil girls are. Which means a lot of these Tamil virgin guys are going to end up marrying wives who are not virgins. I wonder how many are prepared to accept this reality?
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Deluge:

20% of high schoolers in Toronto are homos?

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(05-04-2014 08:36 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Edit --

One interesting thing to note from Deluge's graphic is the rise in homosexuality. Their advocates claim that you can't "catch" gay and exposing more people to it isn't going to turn them gay. The figure above if accurate seems to contradict that. The more prominent it's becoming in society the more people are participating in it.

Just tonight my little sister (she's in high school) was telling me about how some guy was hitting on her and her friends this weekend and he mentioned the fact that he was bisexual intending for it to be a turn on, the same way a woman might mention her own bisexuality.

Before I saw this thread I was thinking about how 'bisexuality' among young men is definitely going to increase if things remain the way that they are. Homosexuality is promoted and seen as cool, bisexual people are viewed as 'enlightened' and 'evolved'. This combined with the fact that I imagine that for a bisexual male, dick is going to be far easier to get than pussy which means a lot of these guys are going to be fucking a lot of men.

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(05-04-2014 08:32 PM)Deluge Wrote:  On a related note, new data is out from Australia showing that high schoolers are having less sex than they used to.

2008 was when the smart phone and social media became popular.

When I see high schoolers or young uni ugrads these days, they always look dazed after gluing their faces to those damn phones 24/7. No wonder they aren't in any mood to have sex or attempt to.

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(05-04-2014 11:50 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  
(05-04-2014 08:32 PM)Deluge Wrote:  On a related note, new data is out from Australia showing that high schoolers are having less sex than they used to.

2008 was when the smart phone and social media became popular.

When I see high schoolers or young uni ugrads these days, they always look dazed after gluing their faces to those damn phones 24/7. No wonder they aren't in any mood to have sex or attempt to.

Two factors:

Premise: Smartphones have made people less social, which means less sex.

1. Being an alpha male is highly dependent on being able to approach without any invitations, so, as more and more young men become dependent on smartphones to socialize, fewer of them will posses the skill to simply talk to a new girl he's never seen before.

2. Young women normally have sex to feel validated, but now they can get their validation through smartphones. The internet also allows them to search for the most committed and loyal of betas. Even the tubbiest of landwhales can find a boyfriend through the internet.


Radical changes all around. This may or may not be good for birthrates. On one hand, women are slutting it up less making themselves better for LTR's, yet on the other hand, men are such pansies they probably won't be able to keep a woman before she dumps him or cheats. It's already hard enough for alphas, betas stand little to no chance until women approach the wall. Even then, once the women use the betas to have kids who thinks they'll still stay married?

Only hard economic times are enough to keep most women with men.

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It would be ludicrous to claim that involuntary celibacy is something that happens to just ethnic minorities.

@Samseau: the study was made of 60% girls and 40% guys, and since girls are more easily swayed and experimenting with bisexuality, you can bet that the actual "homo" group (20% of total surveyed) is probably made up of at least 70% girls and 30% guys. In other words, I think that among all those surveyed of either gender, maybe 15% of girls and 5% of guys are bi. It doesn't seem like such a large percentage.

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(05-04-2014 08:36 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  One interesting thing to note from Deluge's graphic is the rise in homosexuality. Their advocates claim that you can't "catch" gay and exposing more people to it isn't going to turn them gay. The figure above if accurate seems to contradict that. The more prominent it's becoming in society the more people are participating in it.

I don't think homosexual activities have significantly increased over the years. Today it is more encouraged to come out of the closet and to embrace the gay lifestyle, that's why there are seemingly more homo respondents. It is just a cultural thing, at least in the US, that anti-gay speech is not as tolerated anymore as it was 2000-08 when gangster rap was the shit and people were less willing to reveal their gay tendencies, even anonymously.

There are many statistics from the US and Western Europe that actually indicate that a few decades back much more men made homosexual experiences than today. I suppose this is due to the fact that porn wasn't widespread in those days and women were more protected, which made it more difficult to have constant access to pussy and to get SNLs in night clubs, so the dudes began to play with themselves.

I also suspect that the rise of gay activities among adolescents is less a result of gay propaganda but of smartphone/video games/facebook-induced social isolation. Young men in these days have bad social skills. They cannot communicate with strangers, make friends outside of their circles and talk about meaningful topics; all of which are crucial to meet and game women. In addition to that, they browse porn websites everyday and we all know how easy it is to get accustomed to weirdo porn stuff that among some men lowers the inhibition threshold to watch gay porn and, finally, try out dude sex themselves.

The pro-gay sentiments in the mainstream media and in the cultural industry on their own are not strong enough to make people gay. These sexual orientations are simply an evolutionary reality.
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(05-05-2014 02:09 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  It would be ludicrous to claim that involuntary celibacy is something that happens to just ethnic minorities.

@Samseau: the study was made of 60% girls and 40% guys, and since girls are more easily swayed and experimenting with bisexuality, you can bet that the actual "homo" group (20% of total surveyed) is probably made up of at least 70% girls and 30% guys. In other words, I think that among all those surveyed of either gender, maybe 15% of girls and 5% of guys are bi. It doesn't seem like such a large percentage.

I hope you are right. I think homosexuality is worse for men then women because women are aroused independently of visual stimuli. Men, being the more visual sex, are attracted to the sight of women or men depending on their orientation.

So while a woman can be seduced by another woman who has some game, a man cannot seduce another man unless he is lustfully attracted to the image of a youthful male. If a man is bisexual it means he is attracted to the images of both men and women, which means he feels sexual attraction to all people around him at all times.

Something about that seems extremely unhealthy. Not being able to hang around friends, as normal men do, without feeling the need for sex is socially crippling. Especially at young ages. That's probably why most fags grow into outcasts.

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(05-04-2014 08:49 PM)Sri Lankan Wrote:  Most Indians under the age of 35 in Toronto are not FOBs. Most were born in Toronto or came at a very young age. So it's not just the FOB guys who are never with women. The born-and-raised in Toronto Westernized Tamil guys are also not getting laid. This is remarkable.

What's most interesting is that most Tamil guys in Toronto are virgins, while the only 1/3 of Tamil girls are. Which means a lot of these Tamil virgin guys are going to end up marrying wives who are not virgins. I wonder how many are prepared to accept this reality?

I wonder if you realize we have access to maps?

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Damn, the OP didn't even say anything trollish and he got banned. I wonder if a member with the username Nigerian or Russian would have been treated the same way.

(05-04-2014 09:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  20% of high schoolers in Toronto are homos?

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The study was done on Australian teenagers, not Toronto's.

(05-04-2014 10:40 PM)J DOE Wrote:  Just tonight my little sister (she's in high school) was telling me about how some guy was hitting on her and her friends this weekend and he mentioned the fact that he was bisexual intending for it to be a turn on, the same way a woman might mention her own bisexuality.

Before I saw this thread I was thinking about how 'bisexuality' among young men is definitely going to increase if things remain the way that they are. Homosexuality is promoted and seen as cool, bisexual people are viewed as 'enlightened' and 'evolved'. This combined with the fact that I imagine that for a bisexual male, dick is going to be far easier to get than pussy which means a lot of these guys are going to be fucking a lot of men.

Dark times are ahead...

My ex-girlfriend told me the exact same thing a few years ago about some guy who approached her on the street. It seemed so incredulous to me at the time I thought it was just some PUA tactic. I don't give a fuck about societal decline, let these thirsty beta's go bi, less competition for you and me brother.

(05-04-2014 08:36 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  One interesting thing to note from Deluge's graphic is the rise in homosexuality. Their advocates claim that you can't "catch" gay and exposing more people to it isn't going to turn them gay. The figure above if accurate seems to contradict that. The more prominent it's becoming in society the more people are participating in it.
The increase in the gay population is probably people coming out of the closet, and for bisexuality it has to mostly be from attentions seeking actually straight sluts. While 6% of young people could be gay (I do think that's a couple points too high though) there's no way that 11% of young people here are legitimately bi.

From OKC trends:

Quote:REALITY: 80% of self-identified bisexuals are only interested in one gender.

[Image: BiMenMessaging.png]

[Image: BiWomenMessaging.png]

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(05-04-2014 08:36 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  In my town I see Indian and middle-eastern looking dudes everywhere. Sometimes my gym at night is half Indian guys. I never see them with any girls. They are just in small wolf packs of other fobby looking Indian guys. Often speaking their native language. I was chilling at the park today and saw two Indian dudes get out of a car and then hang out for awhile. They were speaking their language. Seemed kind of fobby but like they were trying to look cool at the same time. I was thinking there's no way these dudes can be getting laid. I never see these guys with women.

Most Indians under the age of 35 in Toronto are not FOBs. Most were born in Toronto or came at a very young age. So it's not just the FOB guys who are never with women. The born-and-raised in Toronto Westernized Tamil guys are also not getting laid. This is remarkable.

What speakeasy talked about is very true for FOB brown guys, they only ever hang out with other brown guys and speak their own language all the time. Here at least, the young ones were all born and raised here and although they're extremely westernized they mainly hang out with and date other brown people in tight-knit mixed gender groups. So if you're brown either all your friends are too or virtually none of them are.
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Why was OP banned?
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OP sounded like that IRT guy who would bring up race for not getting laid maybe?

Also, the OP stated statistics in Toronto of all places. if it is difficult for the local male population to get laid except for a small percentage then I dont think ethnic minorities would fair any better.
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(05-05-2014 06:49 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  OP sounded like that IRT guy who would bring up race for not getting laid maybe?

He didn't even say anything trollish, it was just pure racial profiling. If he hadn't revealed he was brown in his username he wouldn't have been banned.
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Yeah I'm scratching my head too as to why he was banned. Unless his IP revealed that he's a previously banned member.
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Regarding the increasing ethnic gayness thing, people close to me who have a lot of gay and trans friends (hardeharhar, not me, I can't stand the inane banter) have commented, and related said gay friends themselves noting, that certain major Indonesian cities have become "full" of gays. I don't mind them coming out, but there also is a possibility that there are more and more of them being created -- which again, as with herbivores, I don't mind.
This might be a chicken-or-egg phenomenon, but it's interesting even if unknowable.
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I'm in high school in the USA, and the infographic seems like it is true, at my school at least. I'm fine with more and more people becoming gay. Mainly because all of the lesbians are ugly as fuck, but you don't really see any ugly homo guys. This shrinks the competition, and I wasn't going to pursue the ugly chicks anyway, so they don't matter.

Hot lesbians don't exist outside of porn. I'll worry about the rampant homosexuality when hot chicks stop liking the pipe. I haven't seen that yet.

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(05-05-2014 08:00 PM)Switch Wrote:  Hot lesbians don't exist outside of porn. I'll worry about the rampant homosexuality when hot chicks stop liking the pipe. I haven't seen that yet.

According to the stats Hot women are having less sex than before so it already is affecting you.

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