Post: #1

Interesting article by Married Man Sex Life. Enjoy.

Fat Wives Demanding Unconditional Love
http://marriedmansexlife.com/2011/07/fat...onal-love/

Let’s not beat around the bush, female obesity is a major boner killer to the majority of men. Men being married to someone they have no sexual interest in, amounts to living in a very private hell. I’ve had a few emails recently about husbands trying to get their wives to lose weight. Mostly they are doing the right thing and making sure their Sex Rank is as high as they can get it.
One husband told me he felt he was in great shape, a good job, helps with the house and kids. Pegged himself as an 8. His wife he thought was a 5 due mainly to her ballooning figure. When he asked her to lose the weight she was enraged and cut him off from sex for a year. He was very frustrated and angry about it, but he stuck around and tolerated it.
So if you think you’re an 8, and your 5 wife cuts you off from sex for a year, and you tolerate it, you are in fact acting like a 4.
It’s tempting to frame the wife as delusional and thinking she really is an 8 or 9 herself, but deep down she knows she really isn’t hot. She knows she’s a 5, but is bluffing that she is an 8.
It’s tempting to say that the husband is McWeaksauce and not an 8 and is in fact a 4, but really he’s just playing his hand purposely badly and letting her win to keep the relationship stable.
The reality is they are locked in a pattern of allowing her to have total control of the relationship, by the husband’s purposeful choice to defer to her. The reality is that he is an 8 and she is a 5. So as soon as he decides to stop deferring to her, and call her bluff, the relationship will immediately destabilize and reform in a different pattern of interaction.
An 8 with a 5 relationship is extremely unbalanced and risks serious chance that the 8 will find someone better, or the 5 will simply flip out and leave before “the inevitable” happens. So you obviously have to manage that and allow time for the fat 5 to become a fit 6, a trim 7 and then an elegant 8.
When you make it clear that the weight issue is bad enough to make you have zero attraction to her and you are now ready to start doing something other than just tolerating it, you will run into a huge Fitness Test. This will usually come in the form of a top of the lungs screaming statement that as your wife, she is entitled to unconditional love from you. Her friends and family… and possibly also your friends and family will pile on with that as well.
If you back down at this point, you’re toast. You’ll be owned by her forever as her eunuch. Things will be worse in that she will up the ante on her bluff and ensure that you are routinely shamed to remind you to not challenge her authority in the relationship. But unconditional love does kinda sound like a good thing doesn’t it… if you’re a Nice Guy that’s like kyptonite.
You need to realize that she’s actually telling you she’s not good enough for you. Anyone screaming for unconditional love, knows they don’t meet the conditions. And yes, damn straight marriage has conditions. Watch how fast the shit hits the fan if you suddenly decide to quit your good job to become an unemployed drunk. If you started hitting her a couple times a week, would you convince her not to call the police because she needs to love you unconditionally and just accept you are you are? Marriage has conditions. Only spouses that suck demand unconditional love.
Here’s what you say…
“This is your fair warning, and the only one you will ever get. I am going to be with someone I am attracted to. I would like that woman to be you. If you would like to be that woman, I will help you become what you can be. If you don’t want to be that woman… that is your choice.”
Then the next 24 hours or so she has a emotional meltdown and after it passes, she’ll very probably break out the exercise clothes and get started. Though I do warn you that your Sex Rank must be higher than hers to try this sort of thing.

Post: #2

This is just another example of Codependent behavior and how we are empowering women.

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Post: #3

An oldie but a goodie from Athol. For anyone in an LTR or Marriage, he's the red pill guy to get advice from.

Post: #4

If you have to demand love then isn't there.

You can't really demand some to love you. You can make them do it through game or by becoming more attractive.. Like losing weight is a start.

Post: #5

Reading the comments of this article are REALLY telling!! If you decide to go the marriage way... you gotta be careful cause these women know that this nuclear bomb divorce is available at a whim and won't hesitate to use it. The worse part is... that some of these men think that THEY have a partner that won't go that way!

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't ---> over 50% Divorce rate... and I believe they stopped counting that rate since it was getting so high. Some good women left though, but they are rare. The only way I can still picture the idea of marriage working for me is... I'm afraid there's no logical way to rationalise it!! I had written something to rationalise it... but then read it and wanted to punch myself in the face for a Beta moment hehe!!

Post: #6

(05-05-2014 01:48 PM)soup Wrote:  If you have to demand love then isn't there.

You can't really demand some to love you. You can make them do it through game or by becoming more attractive.. Like losing weight is a start.

Precisely. Asking someone to love you just makes them mad at you. He is probably way more at fault here then we care to admit. Through his whiney actions and bitch behavior she will keep eating. Instead of thinking, "how can I make her want to be skinny for me", he will demand it and tolerate it to the degree he starts to beg, not from creating more desire.

Post: #7

(05-05-2014 02:07 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Reading the comments of this article are REALLY telling!! If you decide to go the marriage way... you gotta be careful cause these women know that this nuclear bomb divorce is available at a whim and won't hesitate to use it. The worse part is... that some of these men think that THEY have a partner that won't go that way!

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't ---> over 50% Divorce rate... and I believe they stopped counting that rate since it was getting so high. Some good women left though, but they are rare. The only way I can still picture the idea of marriage working for me is... I'm afraid there's no logical way to rationalise it!! I had written something but then read it and wanted to punch myself in the face for a Beta moment hehe!!

It's unfortunately a necessary evil for us guys out there that want to have children.

EDIT: for us guys out there that want to have our children grow up in a traditional household

Post: #8

Talking from personal experience, you have to drop the hammer. Hard. I repeat, hard. As in “if you can’t lose the weight, you’re losing me.” And be prepared to walk out the door. Dread - it’s a beautiful thing.

Post: #9

Ah, whatever, these motherfuckers enable these fat bitches, a lot of them even get fat with them.

The time to plant any "don't gain weight" seeds is before marriage.

Some women gain weight after giving birth, I'm not going to hold it against the mother of my children that she gained a few pounds from carrying my children, but a lot of these chicks are the products of too many "movie nights".

In short, I don't feel sorry for these dudes at all.

Post: #10

(05-05-2014 05:08 PM)jariel Wrote:  Ah, whatever, these motherfuckers enable these fat bitches, a lot of them even get fat with them.

The time to plant any "don't gain weight" seeds is before marriage.

Some women gain weight after giving birth, I'm not going to hold it against the mother of my children that she gained a few pounds from carrying my children, but a lot of these chicks are the products of too many "movie nights".

In short, I don't feel sorry for these dudes at all.

I really get your response. But even the famous baby weight reason doesn't even register with me anymore! If she did it...    

What is the excuse for everybody else? We all love cakes, but we don't eat it everyday!! Geez

Post: #11

What jariel said. She didn't just wake up one day obese. He already failed her as a husband by not laying down the law when she started to pack on the pounds. He should have made his stand long before she got to unfuckable. No man ends up with a land whale by accident.

Post: #12

Yeah you gotta catch and shame them before the fat momentum builds up.

Post: #13

As other posters brought up you gotta be on her about getting fat very early in the relationship. Shit change your wedding vows to "til fat do us part" instead of "til death do us part" to instil your seriousness about weight gain.

Post: #14

Yes, exactly. It is the simp's fault for tolerating this disgusting behavior of choosing to get fat).

Post: #15

Its one thing to shame her into being fit, its a whole other game to get her into a regime which suits and delivers.

Ever read women's magazines and the whole yards of other sources of so-called "helpful" information? There is so much crappy information to do with fitness and well being that if you dont have any sort of grounding in this area you're facing an uphill battle.

I've tried and failed hard to get several women including my mother into understanding weight training, cardio, food intake etc. It flies over their heads like a bad joke.