Post: #51

''Can't get on board with Asian girls. I think guys that have a thing for them are a bit weird - even the "game-aware" guys.

In general, beta guys go for them in my opinion. Of course, there are Asian girls that are worth pursuing but in the whole, I still see it as something internally weird with someone if they're obsessed with Asian girls.''

MattC, Congratulations. You are a shit disturber and honestly a true troll. You say all this stuff that clearly would offend a large number of people on this forum, and you haven't even fucking been to Asia? Nice life.

Post: #52

(04-21-2014 10:50 PM)Screwston Wrote:  So do Asian girls have an obsession with white guys or not? People are always all over the place when it gets brought up.

Obsession is maybe a stretch, but lets just say Asian women pursue white men more than white women pursue white men.

Post: #53

(04-21-2014 10:50 PM)Screwston Wrote:  So do Asian girls have an obsession with white guys or not? People are always all over the place when it gets brought up.

No they don't have an obsession.

But there's a sizable enough minority of groupies that go exclusively for white guys. Most foreigners in Japan (and other parts of East Asia) are only banging these chicks and make false assumptions based on them.

Post: #54

I should clarify by saying when language barrier and societal pressures are controlled for, Asian girls do have a strong preference for white guys. The OKcupid stats I assume are largely of North American participants.

When I lived in Japan it was much more polarized, kind of like a reverse bell curve. Girls either were really interested or they wanted no part in even entertaining the idea of a foreign boyfriend. Japan is a rich country so J-girls are usually "marrying down". Going to poorer Asian countries will obviously raise your status significantly.

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(04-22-2014 01:11 AM)Collide Wrote:  I should clarify by saying when language barrier and societal pressures are controlled for, Asian girls do have a strong preference for white guys. The OKcupid stats I assume are largely of North American participants.

I don't think you are really removing social pressure though. North America is still largely white-dominated so it's not surprising that Asian girls raised in the US would prefer white guys. It's just social pressure in a different form.

Post: #56

(04-22-2014 01:11 AM)Collide Wrote:  I should clarify by saying when language barrier and societal pressures are controlled for, Asian girls do have a strong preference for white guys. The OKcupid stats I assume are largely of North American participants.

I want to explain this phenomenon once and for all.

Asians who want to date each other meet exclusively through social circles, because their sense of community is typically stronger than that of whites, and they meet more quality candidates that way.

Asians who do online dating (in anglosphere countries, largely) are there to specifically *date out* of their ethnicity (more so the women than the men, because the latter aren't choosers). And by dating out, I mean dating whites, mostly. The online dating stats are heavily skewed because of this self-selected demographic.

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(04-21-2014 12:24 PM)MattC Wrote:  In general, beta guys go for them in my opinion. Of course, there are Asian girls that are worth pursuing but in the whole, I still see it as something internally weird with someone if they're obsessed with Asian girls.

I'll leave the beta comment alone as everyone else is already all over that, but it's a qualitative thing, Matt. Think about it this way - there are a lot of guys who actively dislike Asian women, often to an extreme. If something is vehemently dislikable, then it's a polarizing thing. By being polarizing, it's often either loved or disliked, and the polarization also means the feeling will be strong either way.

On a related note, I used to work for this chick in a restaurant who was always dating black guys. Maybe there were a couple other races thrown in but she showed a strong, obvious preference for black pete.

One time the subject somehow came up whether I'd ever dated a black chick. When I said I didn't find them attractive, I was accused of being racist.

I pointed out that she was a hypocrite. If I'm racist for finding a black woman unattractive, then she's just as a racist for preferring them. If something is likable, it is unlikable, and vice versa.

It's the same thing with Asians. You either like what makes them stand out or it turns you off.

Or it just depends on what you prioritize - like one other poster mentioned, he values pretty faces, smooth skin, extremely feminine qualities, etc, over big asses and big breasts. I'm the same way - I've never in all my life understood what was so interesting about a fat ass. I like a smaller, shapely one, and plenty of Asian birds rock those. Even big titties got tiring. They were cool in my early 20s but after chewing on my share, they lost the appeal. Now I'd rather a medium-sized perky titty.

In fact, after all the exposure to these type of women, as long as it's an obvious titty and not a completely flat chest, I think a small breast with hard nipples still looks sexy. Seeing it naked, it looks like the female form to me as much so as a curvy body does these days. I guess men just acclimate like that.

I could go on and on about other things I like about them, but it won't get us anywhere.

Am I obsessed? Maybe. Fuck, probably. If you put me in a bar in America and a mediocre Asian girl walks in, I perk up and move myself towards her. I have no excuses for this - haha - it is what it is. I don't fight it. She isn't any easier than any of the white broads in the bar, so this isn't a low barrier to entry thing.

And I hardly think I'm beta. I slew more than my fair share of white women before leaving the states, and had plenty of options. I was for the most part always the one in charge - broke some hearts and fucked up some heads. I often dated girls with crazy curves; don't see that I was more alpha for doing so at the time.

And when I arrived in Asia, I wanted nothing to do with Asian girls. Boy do things ever change. I'll still fuck a white girl but as soon as it starts seeming like a struggle, I quickly lose interest. Then again, there are enough Asian women around I can afford to lose interest in white girls.

There are plenty of guys with far more game than me who have a thing for Asians. Hell, I think if you put just about any guy in Asia for a long period of time, no matter what his level of game, he's going to develop a preference, quite a possibly a strong one. Not all guys, but most of them.

(04-21-2014 01:11 PM)MattC Wrote:  If I went to Asia, as I plan to one day, then things may obviously change. But for the most part, I just don't see the appeal at all.

Oh, it will. Count on that, my friend.

(04-21-2014 01:35 PM)berserk Wrote:  Yep, it's glorious to lie in bed with an asian girl and let your hand slide across nothing but silky smooth hairless skin.

There are exceptions though and for some reason asian girls with hair - at least in Thailand - don't wax their hair off. Now that is off putting. At least western girls usually have the good decency to shave/wax.

What about the Asian girls with light moustaches? haha Now, that shit is nasty...

A lot of monster bushes too. Fortunately, these things can quickly be tidied up with a bit of encouragement if you are hitting on the regular. Asian girls aim to please.

(04-21-2014 10:50 PM)Screwston Wrote:  So do Asian girls have an obsession with white guys or not? People are always all over the place when it gets brought up.

The majority do not. At least in Asian countries. As someone else mentioned, it's a very eager minority that has the white fever. In majority-white societies, results may differ.

Nothing frustrates me more than seeing the knockout, drop-dead gorgeous Asians who display zero interest in me. Probably because these are the hottest, most put-together women in these countries. Many of them really do strike me as completely unattainable to any outsider.

I guess there are enough gorgeous ones who do that everyone can find their satisfaction though. I prefer the white-skinned ones, but even thought of going into the dark-skinned Asian niche just because there are so many gems overlooked by local guys in that "market." I think a young white guy who didn't give a shit what the people around him (meaning the locals) preferred could do worse than move to a decent-sized city in Isaan and post up for a few years.

Plenty of dark-skinned lookers with money in that area too, contrary to popular myths.

(04-21-2014 11:43 PM)Collide Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 10:50 PM)Screwston Wrote:  So do Asian girls have an obsession with white guys or not? People are always all over the place when it gets brought up.

Obsession is maybe a stretch, but lets just say Asian women pursue white men more than white women pursue white men.

Also note how the men responding to women graphic has almost all arrows pointing straight at the Asians (note white women). haha

But yeah, Asian girls are unattractive...

(04-22-2014 01:11 AM)Collide Wrote:  Going to poorer Asian countries will obviously raise your status significantly.

Even in these places, you only get that love in certain areas. For instance, the night before last I went to a fancy restaurant on the top of this skyscraper. Smoking hot Khmer women dressed to the nines. Lots of well-dressed local men. My status was not increased there one bit. In fact, it went down significantly compared to what it would be back home.

Maybe that's an extreme environment, but it's the same when I go to the mall or coffee shops. Some women look curious and flash me smiles, but I'm hardly beating quality women off with a stick - I'd say there are just as many young, cute women showing me signs of attraction as there would be in a nice coffee shop back home.

And even in the poorer areas, women are not exactly throwing themselves at you. The poor areas where whores and gold-diggers congregate, yes - the poor areas in general, no.

If you think about it, poor women often stand to lose more by hooking up with some random white traveler. Their dignity is all they have and is their one shot at landing a quality guy to give them a stable life. Word gets around fast, and a woman seen running around with whitey is going to get flak from her social circle, especially in the case of one-night-stands.

Unless they are running out of other options or have already fallen into that lifestyle and become women of the night, most poor third world girls aren't exactly tossing their panties around all over town, in my experience.

Just more myths based on what a very-visible fraction of the population is doing.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

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Post: #59

I agree with Mattc..and have no problem saying it in public.
I find Asian culture extremely tame,beta and not very masculine.
It doesn't seem as if its just asian women that don't have a lot of testosterone..its asian men also.
Asians tend to look the most androgynous out of anyone.
Most asian girls bodies are extremely childlike...no curves at all..I find it odd that people associate that childlike body as feminine and innocent.
And of course..it seems to take part in lots of fetishes at the same time.

Yes..asian women in the culture as feminine in terms of being dainty and delicate and catering towards their men.
But its also focused in a way where women are suppose to act innocent and like children..I find that extremely odd and off putting to anyone pursuing a adult woman that looks and acts like a 12 year old.
If a 30 year old man was trolling high school girls..they would say he is immature and cant find a girl his own age.

of course this idea is construed as betas going for asian girls because its something easy to deal with. no game involved and their social skills arent up to par.
the notion that Asian girls will go after white guys no matter what is also there
which is why it seems that so many old expats go to asia for women.
asian obsession..no game required

Post: #60

BB, next time I am in Thailand we will slay Asian birds together. I think you have this Asian fetish as bad as I do.

Post: #61

(04-22-2014 07:09 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  asian obsession..no game required

White American women are quite likely the most promiscuous, easy to bang women on Earth.

A guy without game could do a lot better focusing his energies on that demographic.

I honestly don't get how not seeing the attraction in something = those guys must have zero game.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #62

Whats the most alpha race to bang?

Post: #63

(04-22-2014 07:22 AM)iop890 Wrote:  Whats the most alpha race to bang?

This is a trick question, right?

The obvious answer is:

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #64

(04-22-2014 07:09 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  I find Asian culture extremely tame,beta and not very masculine.

Way to go. Generalizing the culture of an entire continent.

Post: #65

Only a massive beta would have any desire to bang that..

Post: #66

So I've decided to start counting Asian girls as half a notch each.

Can someone help me out with a formula to decide how many notches the other races should be worth based on this? I'm not good at math and none of my Asian friends will help because I'm banging all their women.

Post: #67

I can sort of understand the turn-off some may have with Asian girls. I used to have the same one myself, despite the fact that I'm also Asian. It really depends on the demographics you run into.

In my younger years, I'm around the high achieving academic type mostly. They're a mix of international FOB students and local UMC ones, whose parents live vicariously through their academic pursuits. Those girls are mostly mousy, look like 12 y.o with no tits & arse (I'm an arse man, don't need big arse, but round & bubbly are a must), act like 12 y.o with their hello kitty demeanor. I found them asexual and was indifferent to them. They didn't even register on my radar as sexual beings.

The other type of Asians I'd run into back then was children of boat people. Those folks have plenty of courage and work ethics, but not very attractive genetics, coming from the lower class in their mother countries.

In recent years, I've run into different types of Asians. The first are international students who are children of filthy rich parents, who come to study here not really for any serious academic degree, but to have fun, travel and one up others in their social circle back home. Those girls aren't bogged down by serious studies, and take much better care of their appearances. They often have attractive mothers since their daddies are filthy rich, and inherit their looks. I dated one of those from China who studies physiology and arts. Her biggest concern is not to get top marks, but to get a nicer arse (which I helped, I'm knowledgeable in that regard lol). Model good looks, killer legs, sweet girl

The second are Asian Australians like me, who are sick of following their parents' dreams and just want to do their own things. They have bucketloads of daddy issues, but they are more sexual and take good care of their appearances so become more attractive. Dated an older chick who's a dance teacher, has a fantastic bod and looks years younger than me, and one a few years younger than me who used to be a figure competitor and has an amazing arse you can bounce a coin off.

The third are Asians in their homelands whom I meet in my sporadic travels to Asia. You see all types, not all are beautiful, but I see girls here & there that make both my heart and penis jump for joy. They don't look 12, they look more like jailbait white girls except that they're older and legal lol

So yeah, your taste can change a lot when you run into more women outside your comfort zone. I used to think black women were all ugly, until I saw the honeys from East Africa (Ethiopia I think they were) and saw clips of black American women from the 60s. Hot dayymmmnmmn!!!! I think it's only the fat black American chicks with the shitty loud attitude in modern time that turn me off.

Post: #68

Beyond Borders dropping some truths, well done.

The statement that asian girls don't have curves always make me shake my head. I'm just back from my run in the park here in Bangkok and I assure you that there were plenty of hips and ass to look at as I plowed forward with all these hotties in tight running outfits and booty shorts. Only someone who hasn't seen asian girls in tight clothes could think they have no curves. The average Thai girls is like 155 cm and 50 kg. Naturally she is going to look less curvy on an absolute scale, but in proportion to their size they are plenty round in the right places. You can't compare the two. Japanese women have very wide hips.

Personally, I've been almost cured of yellow fever through exposure therapy and would love to give latinas and medditeranean women a shot, but like Beyond Border, put me anywhere in the world and a bangable asian girl walks in and I'll probably pay attention. Old habits die hard, I blame japanese video games growing up.

Post: #69

(04-22-2014 07:22 AM)iop890 Wrote:  Whats the most alpha race to bang?

If you're Sourcecode, apparently it's obese black women.

I get why a lot of darker skinned guys hate on Asian girls and white guys who like Asian girls. Lets be real here, dark guys have almost zero chance with even the lowest rung females of most Asian societies. Apparently being passive aggressive towards men that these women actually want to fuck is some people's way of lashing out against that.

Post: #70

(04-22-2014 07:22 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 07:09 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  asian obsession..no game required

White American women are quite likely the most promiscuous, easy to bang women on Earth.

A guy without game could do a lot better focusing his energies on that demographic.

I honestly don't get how not seeing the attraction in something = those guys must have zero game.

This is denial. I'm a white guy who does very well with Asians and I agree with everything sourcecode said. Now, again, before people start screaming NOT ALL ASIANS ARE LIKE THAT, just remember that's a weak argument.

Asian women are whores for white men; I've said it before and got massive hate from the men with yellow fever on this forum, and I'll say it again.

I would say it to any man's face, and I would say it to any Asian's woman face (although a bit politer for girls so they don't go fucking hamster crazy on me).

The key question is what percentage of Asian women like white men; I agree it's in the minority but it's much higher than most races.

For example, what percentage of black women like white men? Around 15%?

How about Latina women? 25%?

But for Asian women, it's at least 40%. It's huge. Look at the rate at which Asian women in America inter-marry white men. Highest in the country. And when you combine the fact that Asian women outnumber white men nearly 2:1 (look at world population), it's easy to see why any white guy who goes to Asia gets a girlfriend so quickly.

Aside from tourist infested shitholes like BKK, or military zones in Seoul, white guys are extremely exotic in most parts of Asia. Thus it's just supply and demand. Tons of demand for white men relative to the amount of Asian women in Asia.

Conversely, it's much harder to get an Asian woman in America because Asian women have a much higher supply of white guys to choose from.

But the fact white guys go to Asia in the first place is pretty much all one needs to know. If it wasn't a pussy paradise no one would be going. Men certainly do not go to make money or learn Chinese.

As for the sterotype that betas go for Asian women; absolutely true. However, these betas aren't getting the hot Asian women. Also, it's good that these guys find someone. The dating market in America for white guys is pretty cutthroat, so why shouldn't they be able to head to greener pastures? Who cares if their game sucks? Some guys might take the game a bit too seriously.

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Post: #72

If you want Asian girls with more body then Korean girls are the way to go. Every time I see an Asian girl with an actual ass she has always been a Korean.

Post: #73

(04-22-2014 07:09 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  I find Asian culture extremely tame,beta and not very masculine.

I guess that this would be a problem for anyone who prefers masculine women.

Quote:It doesn't seem as if its just asian women that don't have a lot of testosterone..its asian men also.

So.......attractive, feminine women, combined by a reduced amount of competition from unattractive feminine men? How is this a problem?

Quote:Asians tend to look the most androgynous out of anyone.
Most asian girls bodies are extremely childlike...no curves at all..I find it odd that people associate that childlike body as feminine and innocent.

So, not being an obese black woman = androgynous?

Quote:...women are suppose to act innocent and like children..I find that extremely odd and off putting to anyone pursuing a adult woman that looks and acts like a 12 year old.

You prefer that North American career woman who tough talks you, treats everything as a competition, disagrees with you for emotional reasons, can't be reasoned with and has a massive stick called feminism up her butt?

Quote:If a 30 year old man was trolling high school girls..they would say he is immature and cant find a girl his own age.

Have you ever been to Asia? Do you speak an Asian language? If not, I call BS on the comparison.

As someone who is based in China and speaks Chinese, I really don't see how you are making the comparison between Asian women and high school students.

Western women are just as pathetic and stupid as any Asian woman I've ever met, if not more so.

Western women live in a reality where they could fight most guys "if they really wanted to," where they are intellectual superior to men and where they consider it necessary to wear the pants and be a total bitch.

Asian women are comfortable with being women. Where's the harm in that?

The relative innocence of each woman depends on the individual involved.

Do you really prefer whores?

Quote:of course this idea is construed as betas going for asian girls because its something easy to deal with. no game involved and their social skills arent up to par.

Apparently you think that all Asian girls fall into the small category that will date Western men.

Good luck using "no game involved" on high society girls anywhere in Asia.

Quote:the notion that Asian girls will go after white guys no matter what is also there
which is why it seems that so many old expats go to asia for women.
asian obsession..no game required

This generalization demonstrates your ignorance or general lack of critical thinking skills.

Just because people act on a perception does not make that perception reality.

I've seen plenty of old expats go to Asia for the women and flame out badly. Even then, they are usually stuck having their lives destroyed by down-and-out divorced women with children, the real bottom of the bucket on the Asian sexual market.

Sorry, guys with no game are not dating anyone in Asia expect that girls considered undesirable by the locals.

Post: #74

(04-22-2014 11:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  For example, what percentage of black women like white men? Around 15%?

How about Latina women? 25%?

But for Asian women, it's at least 40%.

I would like to know the source from which you gathered these figures. Cause I am 89.6% sure that you made them up.

This thread is getting to be a bit ridiculous. I don't think theres anything beta about banging Asians unless its clear that you are a fat slob who can't fair well with other girls. Some people like Lamborghini's some like Ferrari's some like Ford Mustangs does their preference make them more Beta/Alpha?

Some guys like big breast some like fat asses and some like fucking feet. Does their preference in which they like make them Alpha/Beta?

Post: #75

Asian girls always really like me but I just can't see the appeal, even with the ones posted. I notice that they are highly into credentialism and as I have a good career and education I belive this adds more value than if I was with a white woman.

Minus Koreans I can't find any of them attractive. Koreans have ass and thighs which is what I find attractive

The beta thing sounds cruel but is true in that many of the ones I've met who love Asian women are very beta, but nothing wrong with that

Not race trolling but is it "true" what they say about Asian women - that they are not used to larger equipment