Post: #26

Dat vocal fry is gonna make it really hard to sit through this whole interview. I don't know if I can do it.

Post: #27

Into the meat of the interview now, and yup, she confirms every manosphere belief.

Post: #28

(04-11-2014 11:10 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  This is a very important interview for the manosphere.
All the random acts of depravity and cock carousel riding that she brags about are essentially the nail in the coffin for modern feminism. She thinks she's representing the cause as the bravest girl out there when in reality she's digging the grave deeper while giving the manosphere all the ammo it needs; straight from the horses mouth.

We should do all we can to promote this interview as the defining image of feminists everywhere as it literally "confirms every single belief that we share about *western women* women"

Someone should come up with a meme for her. The picture would be her upwards looking face, soaked in cum. The text would be "The new face of female empowerment."

Thanks feminism.

Post: #29

Noteworthy point from Bella Knox when she brought up how hot it was when James Deen said he wanted to take her home and make her his sex slave.and how.she was absolutely turned on by the directness of him because it appealed to her submissive side.

Post: #30

(04-12-2014 08:59 AM)bacon Wrote:  Noteworthy point from Bella Knox when she brought up how hot it was when James Deen said he wanted to take her home and make her his sex slave.and how.she was absolutely turned on by the directness of him because it appealed to her submissive side.

Deep Conversion Game.

All the porn chicks like James, because he connects psychologically with them and not just physically. I wrote about this in How To Fuck Her Like A Pornstar recently.

Post: #31

Good God. What did I just listen to? Is it too late to repeal the vote for women?

Post: #32

(04-11-2014 06:50 PM)Frontenac Wrote:  I think the problem that we have with Belle Knox

I have no problem with Belle Knox.

I'm not sure why some guys do?

Many guys watch her porno movies and masturbate to her so I know some guys agree with me.

(04-11-2014 06:50 PM)Frontenac Wrote:  it pisses us off.

It doesn't piss me off.

I like porn stars.

(04-11-2014 06:50 PM)Frontenac Wrote:  lying that it's empowering

I don't think she is lying.

I think she really feels "empowered" by this.

She is getting attention and she is getting money.

Those things carry power. That's why she feel "empowered"

(04-11-2014 06:50 PM)Frontenac Wrote:  she's getting famous on behavior that's traditionally looked upon as wrong.

Sex is "wrong"? Images of sex are "wrong"?

Says who???

(04-11-2014 06:50 PM)Frontenac Wrote:  My problem is that young girls in elementary schools will be looking at this slag and thinking "this is what I have to do to get famous and be successful".

Porn is for adults.

Elementary school girls should not even know what porn is.

If young girls in elementary schools are watching porn and making educational decisions based on it, then their parents did a shitty job.

*****

Amanda Knox just happens to be very sexual. She is really a natural.

Some people just love sex and want to make their living in the sex industry.

It's no reason to get mad.

Post: #33

Gio, this delicious young slut has provoked an unparalleled outpouring of bitterness and rage all over the "manosphere". It's not just this forum -- there are whole web pages devoted to nothing but shaming and invective against her. It's been a fascinating thing to watch.

She has crystallized the rage of every beta male who can't get over the unanswerable reality that simple smartish young pussy like Belle would rather suck thug cock on film than appreciate the earnest beta for his qualities of intelligence, character, and hard work. It is an unforgivable affront to the beta's very soul.

It's been an amazing separator of the beta from the categories that border it on either side, the alpha and the omega. The alphas obviously don't give a shit about another slut going into porn, and the omegas are just grateful that they can jack off to the sight of an enraging, smooth 18 year old ass on a slim teenage body. But it is the beta in his wounded pride who can't get over the infamy of true female nature on display, let alone see it rewarded for its "attention whoring" by media interviews and instant notoriety. Why should so much attention be lavished on an 18 year old slut whose claim to fame is gagging on cock in front of a camera rather than on the beta and his actual contributions to society? What kind of world is this?!

Very instructive, all round.

Post: #34

(04-12-2014 07:41 AM)Renzy Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 11:10 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  This is a very important interview for the manosphere.
All the random acts of depravity and cock carousel riding that she brags about are essentially the nail in the coffin for modern feminism. She thinks she's representing the cause as the bravest girl out there when in reality she's digging the grave deeper while giving the manosphere all the ammo it needs; straight from the horses mouth.

We should do all we can to promote this interview as the defining image of feminists everywhere as it literally "confirms every single belief that we share about *western women* women"

Someone should come up with a meme for her. The picture would be her upwards looking face, soaked in cum. The text would be "The new face of female empowerment."

Thanks feminism.

Something like this, you mean?

[Mod: NSFW image removed]

Post: #35

Hey,

Belle Knox in my eyes is everything that certain Feminists hate, a woman who is actively seeking out Porn as a way to make money/fame. The freedom to choose argument was one of the tenants of feminists for decades.

But as long its not porn.....well a more specific type of porn

If it was girl on girl porn however i bet there wouldn't be as much as a blink of an eyelid..

Now the common denominator in all of this is men, men do and would enjoy both of those types of porn, but since she is getting rammed from all angles by men its degrading so obviously she is being manipulated by the patriarchy right?

Feminists, in my mind only hate male on female porn as they probably see it as rape/abuse of power etc. Not (a minimum of) two adults having consensual sex for money.

Lesbian/girl on girl is probably seen as acceptable in their warped mind, as the ultimate expression of womanhood and sensuality because it's only other woman that can truly understand the feminine body, and appreciate and release the goddess within.

Feminism doesn't want women who actively seek out jobs that men could benefit or get enjoyment from as it seen as exploitation even if the contract/transaction is respectful and consensual.

They want to have a monopoly on women's choices.

Post: #36

(04-12-2014 07:41 AM)Renzy Wrote:  Someone should come up with a meme for her. The picture would be her upwards looking face, soaked in cum. The text would be "The new face of female empowerment."

Thanks feminism.

"Fighting the Patriarchy one load at a time"

Post: #37

(04-13-2014 10:56 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  I have no problem with Belle Knox.

I'm not sure why some guys do?

We all have different opinions, I'm sure some guys share yours and are ok with girls doing porn, I personally don't like it and think they're disgusting sluts who deserved to be shamed, but that's just my opinion and I agree that she has the right to do whatever she wants.

Post: #38

(04-14-2014 07:18 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 10:56 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  I have no problem with Belle Knox.

I'm not sure why some guys do?

We all have different opinions, I'm sure some guys share yours and are ok with girls doing porn, I personally don't like it and think they're disgusting sluts who deserved to be shamed, but that's just my opinion and I agree that she has the right to do whatever she wants.

I hear you and I will tell you that I don't believe I am right all the time.

I could be wrong. I often am.

I don't think sex or images of sex are that big of a deal.

But, I respect the fact that you disagree with me because it makes me think about it even more..??

Guys like you make me change my mind sometimes. Thanks for stirring the pot in my brain..!

Post: #39

Has anyone here read the work of legendary rock writer Lester Bangs? He was an insightful thinker who died young but was immortalized on film by Phillip Seymour Hoffman in "Almost Famous."

In one of his classic essays, Bangs wrote about how he couldn't get aroused at certain models of his era, the '70s, because they all had this "fuck you, I'm too good for you" look. He contrasted this to the sweetness of the "cheesecake" models of the '50s, who seemed sweet and welcoming.

I think the problem Bangs had with those models is the same a lot of guys have with Knox -- but we haven't articulated that yet. Listening to Belle talk about men (on this radio show and elsewhere) and seeing her act in porn is like watching a chef who hates food or a musician who plays only for money, with no inspiration.

This is what, I think, has brought out the haters. It's because she clearly hates men and is doing porn and stripping to be a tease and say "Look at what you can't have -- and all the money I make because you're a sucker."

(Listening to her talk about the guy that outed her was actually disturbing. She seemed so intent on shaming the guy she didn't understand she was giving the game away and potentially alienating her core audience. No man wants to get it up for a ball buster. Any porn actress with brains from the past would have played this differently, if only for money's sake.)

This is the complete antithesis of "golden age" porn actresses like Annie Sprinkle and Nina Hartley (and others) who expressed admiration for men's sexuality and would often fuck their fans -- sometimes for fun. They saw it almost as a spiritual calling (don't laugh -- look it up).

If Belle were a good-time girl like these women, the media would mock her. But because she attempts to "stick it" to men, they love her.

Belle Knox is the porn version of all the things we criticize here: the "frivorce" golddigger, the man-hating bitch, and the Alpha-fux/Beta-bux tease.

Knox has become a twisted symbol of sexuality for a society that is increasingly twisted about sex itself, esp. men's sexuality. No man with any pride should be supporting the fame-whoring escapades of a man-hating bitch out to take his money and bust his balls.

Plus, she sure as fuck doesn't have tits like Annie Sprinkle -- which was sort of the whole point back when porn was about sex, not pretentious political bullshit.

Post: #40

Pretty excellent distillation. No one cares what Belle Knox does with herself, but there's a reason why there's pushback on her -- That she's being used to promote a certain set of ideas.

Post: #41

(04-13-2014 10:56 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Elementary school girls should not even know what porn is.

If young girls in elementary schools are watching porn and making educational decisions based on it, then their parents did a shitty job.

People who grew up on cell phones, and by extension, the internet, learn to interact and form relationships and standards of decency solely through an incredibly hollow medium. Whether a parent knows it or not, their children are being bombarded with heinous and disgusting imagery all the time. The impersonal nature of these interactions is what allows even the ugliest people to make dating profiles, or the dimmest bulb to "speak out."

Back in high school, I was up on all the latest shock vids that would circulate the web. This was before Facebook. The first one I ever straight up turned off was "Two Guys One Hammer." It was this video that let me know what society would become. I figured I had satisfied any morbid curiosities I harbored. On paper, the video is unimaginably vile and heinous, but videos like this are an everyday thing now.

Well before Twitter or any of this social media existed, I had already been exposed, unwillingly, to everything from scat porn, to genital mutilation, to Japanese models who crush live kittens skulls in stiletto heels. That's an entire genre of pornography. There is no perversion that isn't being monetized or indulged. We are far beyond Rome, but we have a nice, glittering facade of care. Words like "share" and "like" get bandied about, jargon for "advertise" and "promote."

The parents cannot control what the kids are doing. The kids all carry phones and constantly record each other for hope of recognition and approval from the internet. People stop next to an accident to take videos of people's last gasps. Then they slap slogans on top and upload them to websites. On top of this, in all directions are absurd and confusing "empowerment" movements urging children to "decide for themselves", rather than listen to their parents or community.

Community is dead and with the current direction of society, it will never come back.

But yeah, as far as Belle Knox goes, I skipped around the interview but I legitimately cannot stand her voice and attitude. It wouldn't matter if she was a Porn Star or not, she's just a sub-par person, devoid of any spark at all.

Post: #42

(04-11-2014 03:01 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  When I was a senior, my English teacher asked us to do a research report on what we envisioned doing 10 years from then. That is, she asked us what our careers would be, and what was needed to get there.

I wonder what her teacher said when she wrote 'getting my ass torn up and jizzed on the face for money.'

I have made this point before. Are we against slutty women or in favour of slutty women?

I don't have a problem with slutty women - the more the merrier. And on top of that - what does it matter if a girl gets her ass torn up and jizzed on?

Chicks do this all the time - what difference does it make that it happened to be caught on camera? That innocent fun chick you date is just as filthy as any porno chick - yet because it was never done on camera you are none the wiser. It is like imagining that a girl doesn't shit just because you have never seen footage on camera.

Added to which - at least the chicks in porn fuck guys who are tested for STDs - so if anything they are probably cleaner than the bar skank at the table next to you.

When those Slut Walks were popular a few years ago - as a manosphere we should have encouraged as many guys as possible to go down and support their campaign.

I guess the only people who should care about slutty women are those guys who want wives and want families.

Which is fine.

But it is also a little beta...

I just think those of us who support slutty women should speak up more because at times the manosphere has elements that are not too different from a Young Christian's Network.

Post: #43

I don't like seeing all this criticism of Belle Knox either. Sex workers are actually honest about sex, which is more than can be said for most women.

Post: #44

(06-01-2014 11:53 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 03:01 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  When I was a senior, my English teacher asked us to do a research report on what we envisioned doing 10 years from then. That is, she asked us what our careers would be, and what was needed to get there.

I wonder what her teacher said when she wrote 'getting my ass torn up and jizzed on the face for money.'

I have made this point before. Are we against slutty women or in favour of slutty women?

I don't have a problem with slutty women - the more the merrier. And on top of that - what does it matter if a girl gets her ass torn up and jizzed on?

Chicks do this all the time - what difference does it make that it happened to be caught on camera? That innocent fun chick you date is just as filthy as any porno chick - yet because it was never done on camera you are none the wiser. It is like imagining that a girl doesn't shit just because you have never seen footage on camera.

Added to which - at least the chicks in porn fuck guys who are tested for STDs - so if anything they are probably cleaner than the bar skank at the table next to you.

When those Slut Walks were popular a few years ago - as a manosphere we should have encouraged as many guys as possible to go down and support their campaign.

I guess the only people who should care about slutty women are those guys who want wives and want families.

Which is fine.

But it is also a little beta...

I just think those of us who support slutty women should speak up more because at times the manosphere has elements that are not too different from a Young Christian's Network.

I understand where you're coming from Cardguy since I used to think the same thing when I got in the game, but the fact of the matter is that this whole gaming thing is reactionary to the way women are now behaving. Roosh had an excellent post relating to the contradiction of pursuing casual sex while advocating for traditional values. I'm not trying to insult you with the fallowing argument, but since you've admitted being a P4P kinda guy, you can't begin to imagine how unfulfilling it is to be gaming Western Female sometimes.

We still do it since we're talking about pussy, but damn!! And what's even more ironic is that the best guys in the Game eventually move to where women are more feminine and fun to be around, even though the move causes them to get laid less often. Case in point Roosh, Krauser, Torrero and the list goes on! It's not only about pussy, but how enjoyable the process of getting that pussy is! Only the top guys which I'm far from being a part of can understand that problem. It's the equivalent of the saying "Mo money Mo problems"

Post: #45

Yeah - I agree I am able to sit out the 'game' so to speak and able to analyse things without having to worry about the reality on the ground. So as always - no offense taken. You can say what you want about me! :-)

I guess it comes down to what guys are looking for. Are they looking for pussy or relationships?

I don't believe in love - and find women boring to hang out with. So - it comes down to what you want from women in the end.

There is a part of me that feels the most important message of red-pill thinking is the realisation that women only have one thing of true value to offer men. And that is sex. Everything else is slipping back into blue pill hamstering...

But I admit I am pretty extreme in my outlook. It would be interesting to see how other people weigh up their goals?

Post: #46

(06-01-2014 12:43 PM)puckerman Wrote:  I don't like seeing all this criticism of Belle Knox either. Sex workers are actually honest about sex, which is more than can be said for most women.

It's not that people even hate sex workers, it's just that people are really not digging the tone and overall demeanor of the media and "culture" these days. This site is a nexus for men, black, white, whoever. The overall goal is the refinement of modern masculinity, and so there's tons of analysis on anything that may affect it. There is a serious (if unconscious) pushback against "the cathedral" and with stories like this, there's a lot of overlap, which is why you have so many people confused not only about what the manosphere is, but how it could be in any way a positive force.

Post: #47

There are more types of alpha than just getting a nut or die tryin', so I think it's a little ridiculous to praise any and all efforts to do so when those efforts are self-depreciating or counterintuitive in longevity.

The problem is that Belle Knox is an average looking. mediocre slut who should've been told by someone, "lol no honey, you're not cute enough to pull that off".

*Enabling lower quality women to participate in higher quality behaviors gives all women a hall pass to do the same themselves.* There is direct correlation between Belle Knox thinking she's a sex symbol and a fat chick thinking she deserves a fit partner. It like a club promoter handing out all the vip passes to the very first people he sees-Saturday night will look like something off the streets.

For all the bitching about quality of decline in looks, behavior and skills that women bring to the table, I don't see a lot of example in attitudes of men willing to make a stand when their toes are stepped on or what's rendered to that man is below is quality/efforts. *It's worth saying no. It's alpha to demand your dollar gets every ounce paid for.*
*The bottom line is that Ms. Knox is completely trying to buck the system altogether. She's throwing a fuck you at everybody and I can't blame a soul for disliking her*


We need to have more discussions on the alpha paradigm because there's a discord of two valid opinions.

Post: #48

(06-01-2014 12:58 PM)cardguy Wrote:  Yeah - I agree I am able to sit out the 'game' so to speak and able to analyse things without having to worry about the reality on the ground. So as always - no offense taken. You can say what you want about me! :-)

I guess it comes down to what guys are looking for. Are they looking for pussy or relationships?

I don't believe in love - and find women boring to hang out with. So - it comes down to what you want from women in the end.

There is a part of me that feels the most important message of red-pill thinking is the realisation that women only have one thing of true value to offer men. And that is sex. Everything else is slipping back into blue pill hamstering...

But I admit I am pretty extreme in my outlook. It would be interesting to see how other people weigh up their goals?

I actually agree with you on this, that's why I demand so much of them and women as a community if I'm going to be dealing with them. I'll give them added credit of being useful for sex, assisting you and unintentional humor. I have bluepill dreams of finding a genuinely entertaining woman at times

Post: #49

H.L. Mencken's opinions on prostitutes and "women of joy" are relevant here. Check this out, and just substitute the word "porn chick" for "prostitute" in the article below. It's long, I know, but worth reading. A lot of his views and predictions are spot-on, and this was written in 1922. The big take-away for me here is: porn chicks enjoy what they do, and it's not a big deal. Making a celebrity out of this chick is just another way for the media to make a big deal out of some bullshit.



Even prostitution, in the long run, may become a more or less respectable profession, as it was in the great days of the Greeks. That quality will surely attach to it if ever it grows quite unnecessary; whatever is unnecessary is always respectable, for example, religion, fashionable clothing, and a knowledge of Latin grammar. The prostitute is disesteemed today, not because her trade involves anything intrinsically degrading or even disagreeable, but because she is currently assumed to have been driven into it by dire necessity, against her dignity and inclination.

That this assumption is usually unsound is no objection to it; nearly all the thinking of the world, particularly in the field of morals, is based upon unsound assumption, e.g., that God observes the fall of a sparrow and is shocked by the fall of a Sunday-school superintendent. The truth is that prostitution is one of the most attractive of the occupations practically open to the sort of women who engage in it, and that the prostitute commonly likes her work, and would not exchange places with a shop-girl or a waitress for anything in the world. The notion to the contrary is propagated by unsuccessful prostitutes who fall into the hands of professional reformers, and who assent to the imbecile theories of the latter in order to cultivate their good will, just as convicts in prison, questioned by tee-totalers, always ascribe their rascality to alcohol.

No prostitute of anything resembling normal intelligence is under the slightest duress; she is perfectly free to abandon her trade and go into a shop or factory or into domestic service whenever the impulse strikes her; all the prevailing gabble about white slave jails and kidnappers comes from pious rogues who make a living by feeding such nonsense to the credulous. So long as the average prostitute is able to make a good living, she is quite content with her lot, and disposed to contrast it egotistically with the slavery of her virtuous sisters. If she complains of it, then you may be sure that her success is below her expectations.

A starving lawyer always sees injustice, in the courts. A bad physician is a bitter critic of Ehrlich and Pasteur. And when a suburban clergyman is forced out of his cure by a vestry-room revolution be almost invariably concludes that the sinfulness of man is incurable, and sometimes he even begins to doubt some of the typographical errors in Holy Writ.

The high value set upon virginity by men, whose esteem of it is based upon a mixture of vanity and voluptuousness, causes many women to guard it in their own persons with a jealousy far beyond their private inclinations and interests. It is their theory that the loss of it would materially impair their chances of marriage. This theory is not supported by the facts. The truth is that the woman who sacrifices her chastity, everything else being equal, stands a much better chance of making a creditable marriage than the woman who remains chaste. This is especially true of women of the lower economic classes.

At once they come into contact, hitherto socially difficult and sometimes almost impossible, with men of higher classes, and begin to take on, with the curious facility of their sex, the refinements and tastes and points of view of those classes. The mistress thus gathers charm, and what has begun as a sordid sale of amiability not uncommonly ends with formal marriage. The number of such marriages is enormously greater than appears superficially, for both parties obviously make every effort to conceal the facts. Within the circle of my necessarily limited personal acquaintance I know of scores of men, some of them of wealth and position, who have made such marriages, and who do not seem to regret it. It is an old observation, indeed, that a woman who has previously dispose of her virtue makes a good wife.

The common theory is that this is because she is grateful to her husband for rescuing her from social outlawry; the truth is that she makes a good wife because she is a shrewd woman, and has specialized professionally in masculine weakness, and is thus extra-competent at the traditional business of her sex. Such a woman often shows a truly magnificent sagacity. It is very difficult to deceive her logically, and it is impossible to disarm her emotionally. Her revolt against the pruderies and sentimentalities of the world was evidence, to begin with, of her intellectual enterprise and courage, and her success as a rebel is proof of her extraordinary pertinacity, resourcefulness and acumen.Even the most lowly prostitute is better off, in all worldly ways, than the virtuous woman of her own station in life.

She has less work to do, it is less monotonous and dispiriting, she meets a far greater variety of men, and they are of classes distinctly beyond her own. Nor is her occupation hazardous and her ultimate fate tragic. A dozen or more years ago I observed a some what amusing proof of this last. At that time certain sentimental busybodies of the American city in which I lived undertook an elaborate inquiry into prostitution therein, and some of them came to me in advance, as a practical journalist, for advice as to how to proceed. I found that all of them shared the common superstition that the professional life of the average prostitute is only five years long, and that she invariably ends in the gutter. They were enormously amazed When they unearthed the truth.

This truth was to the effect that the average prostitute of that town ended her career, not in the morgue but at the altar of God, and that those who remained unmarried often continued in practice for ten, fifteen and even twenty years, and then retired on competences. It was established, indeed, that fully eighty per cent married, and that they almost always got husbands who would have been far beyond their reach had they remained virtuous. For one who married a cabman or petty pugilist there were a dozen who married respectable mechanics, policemen, small shopkeepers and minor officials, and at least two or three who married well-to-do tradesmen and professional men. Among the thousands whose careers were studied there was actually one who ended as the wife of the town's richest banker—that is, one who bagged the best catch in the whole community.

This woman had begun as a domestic servant, and abandoned that harsh and dreary life to enter a brothel. Her experiences there polished and civilized her, and in her old age she was a grande dame of great dignity. Much of the sympathy wasted upon women of the ancient profession is grounded upon an error as to their own attitude toward it. An educated woman, hearing that a frail sister in a public stew is expected to be amiable to all sorts of bounders, thinks of how she would shrink from such contacts, and so concludes that the actual prostitute suffers acutely.

What she overlooks is that these men, however gross and repulsive they may appear to her, are measurably superior to men of the prostitute's own class—say her father and brothers—and that communion with them, far from being disgusting, is often rather romantic. I well remember observing, during my collaboration with the vice-crusaders aforesaid, the delight of a lady of joy who had attracted the notice of a police lieutenant; she was intensely pleased by the idea of having a client of such haughty manners, such brilliant dress, and what seemed to her to be so dignified a profession. It is always forgotten that this weakness is not confined to prostitutes, but run through the whole female sex.

The woman who could not imagine an illicit affair with a wealthy soap manufacturer or even with a lawyer finds it quite easy to imagine herself succumbing to an ambassador or a duke. There are very few exceptions to this rule. In the most reserved of modern societies the women who represent their highest flower are notoriously complaisant to royalty. And royal women, to complete the circuit, not infrequently yield to actors and musicians, i.e., to men radiating a glamour not encountered even in princes.

Post: #50

(06-01-2014 11:40 AM)Slick Shimmer Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 10:56 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Elementary school girls should not even know what porn is.

If young girls in elementary schools are watching porn and making educational decisions based on it, then their parents did a shitty job.

parents cannot control what the kids are doing. The kids all carry phones

First of all, let me say.. Welcome to the forum!

I enjoyed your thoughtful post and I agree with most of it.

That said, let me respond..

My point was that elementary school girls should not be watching porn and making educational decisions based on it.

Elementary school age is 6-11 years old.

I was responding this statement:

Quote:My problem is that young girls in elementary schools will be looking at this slag and thinking "this is what I have to do to get famous and be successful".

Again, like I said.. If girls aged 6-11 years old are watching porn and making career decisions based on it, I blame the parents.

Elementary school girls should not have access to porn.

I don't have kids but if I did, I would block all porn form their phones and computers.

I think at that age, parents can and should control what their kids are watching.

Maybe, you disagree:

(06-01-2014 11:40 AM)Slick Shimmer Wrote:  parents cannot control what the kids are doing. The kids all carry phones

(06-01-2014 11:40 AM)Slick Shimmer Wrote:  Community is dead

My community is not dead.

We still look after each other, help each other, and look after the well being and safety of other peoples children.

In fact, I recently traveled to Tennessee and North Carolina and I have to say the sense of community was quite strong in those places.

Thge sense of community is also strong in many parts of Northern California where I live.

I feel that statement is a bit cynical.

(06-01-2014 11:40 AM)Slick Shimmer Wrote:  But yeah, as far as Belle Knox goes,

she's just a sub-par person, devoid of any spark at all.

"A sub-par person, devoid of any spark"

She is 18, thin, and decent looking.

Maybe, I have low standards but a thin, decent looking, 18 year old provides a good "spark" for me..

What type of girl provides a "spark" for you?