Post: #101

(02-24-2014 12:54 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  German guys look reasonably good and some are enhanced with steroids etc.

The main thing is that German men are fairly tall, taller on average than Anglos. So unless you are already like 6'4", get shoe lifts and give yourself a one inch bump. Every little bit helps.

Post: #102

This is true.Average German height for men is about 183 cm.They are 1-2 cm shorter than Dutch who tower almost everyone.
For women the height varies.In northern Germany Hamburg etc it is maybe 172-175 cm on average but in eastern Germany it is more close to 168 cm.
English women are considerably shorter than German women and 5 Kgr on average fatter for sure.Germanics are the tallest people on earth.From Slavs only Czechs,Serbs and Croats come close.
The only advantage English women have over German ones are the mega boobs(maybe the biggest in Europe if we do not deduct the extra weight caused by fatness).

There are many germanophile guys who are attracted by pure Aryan beauty.In this case polish phenotype serves only as a substitute.

Post: #103

(02-24-2014 01:13 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  There are many germanophile guys who are attracted by pure Aryan beauty.In this case polish phenotype serves only as a substitute.

Men with a particular thing for Germanic facial features will enjoy the country, as will men who will make do with a horsey face in exchange for a tight body, solid boobs and good hair. Germany has a sizable pool of butterfaces that look like legit nines from behind, so that can definitely be a good niche to play.

Post: #104

(02-24-2014 01:13 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  This is true.Average German height for men is about 183 cm.They are 1-2 cm shorter than Dutch who tower almost everyone.
For women the height varies.In northern Germany Hamburg etc it is maybe 172-175 cm on average but in eastern Germany it is more close to 168 cm.
English women are considerably shorter than German women and 5 Kgr on average fatter for sure.Germanics are the tallest people on earth.From Slavs only Czechs,Serbs and Croats come close.
The only advantage English women have over German ones are the mega boobs(maybe the biggest in Europe if we do not deduct the extra weight caused by fatness).

There are many germanophile guys who are attracted by pure Aryan beauty.In this case polish phenotype serves only as a substitute.

English and Irish people dont look germanic at all in my experience, I know scandinavians, dutch, germans, etc dont look exactly like eachother but at the same time their differences are still not as big enough to separate them apart on different groups, the same goes when you compare slavic nations like russians,most poles, belarussians, ukranians (but .you could make a case for czech here imo who have many distinctive germanic-slavic hybrids).

Czech people in fact look more stereotypically germanic/Aryan than most british people do.

Post: #105

(02-24-2014 09:56 AM)Booyah Wrote:  because? Greek look the same as Turkish, almost impossible to distinguish them. Because of the huge emigrancy wave wouldn't call any southern europeans ''making impression''. It's not northern Europe to get a look because of being tanned/black skin.

Your're just giving some subjective informations which has nothing to the generality

Turks are often rather skinny and tend to dance frantically like you see in this video.





Greek guys are more bulky and usually move less.You also notice how Greek women differ from turkish ones in appearance.









However Greeks living in Germany look run down they do not have the air of the visitors.
When you see serious ass in Germany it is almost always turkish women however they lack in almost everything else.There are cities like Frankfurt,Berlin,Stuttgart,Dusseldorf where you see more slavic women than even in major slavic towns.The situation is so ridiculous I will turn these cities into playgrounds as I relocated to the West.

Post: #106

(02-24-2014 12:54 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  German guys look reasonably good and some are enhanced with steroids etc.

There's no more steroid use in Germany than anywhere else. Not sure where you've been seeing this.

Post: #107

Yea to the contrary...German/Austrian guys are pretty scrawny. There's not much of a pumping iron culture despite being the homeland of Awnald.

Post: #108

(03-07-2014 10:27 PM)SpecialEd Wrote:  Yea to the contrary...German/Austrian guys are pretty scrawny. There's not much of a pumping iron culture despite being the homeland of Awnald.

Not sure how could you make up for such statement, germany is pretty big country hence it heavily depends on where in germany you are and what your social circle is, the same applies for america, where in some areas roid guts are everywhere but in other areas they are fairly uncommon. Some of the biggest BB pro's are german, that makes an argument for itself. Scandinavian countries are also famous for having huge dudes, Many danes, swedes and finns are huge, I noticed that trend specially amond danes, however its much less so among norwegians.

German guys are on average better looking and taller than anglos, they also have more of an specific looks.

Post: #109

(03-07-2014 09:10 PM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

(02-24-2014 12:54 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  German guys look reasonably good and some are enhanced with steroids etc.

There's no more steroid use in Germany than anywhere else. Not sure where you've been seeing this.

Eastern Germany.Quite a few guys in Sachsen-Anhalt are pumped up.The classic Aryan look with the elephant neck is quite common.Unfortunately women do not keep on par in this area.There is also relative scarcity of women and you never see them walking alone as is often the case in western Germany.
Also many guys in the East are on stimulants.You see the crazy eyes everywhere.However much more of a sheep mentality contrary to the hardcore capitalist West(where everyone tries to rip you off and time=money).
In the big cities of the West it is easy to play game as they are overrun with foreign chicks and German girls are more open.In smaller towns the situation changes.Generally the richer cities tend to attract the hottest chicks you may get overwhelmed by the quality.The problem in Germany is the low average in female appearance and too many freaks(totally antiesthetic women who do not bother to hide their ugliness but even enhance it) who kill your mood.It can be stimulated only by some foreign women motivation eg after a trip to a slavic country or a visit to a German city with lots of slavic residents.Then as you become horny again you may pay attention to German women.

Post: #110

Great thread on observations of German women and German culture. I only have a sample size one with German woman. Because of my experience with her, I agree with one of the previous comments that said German women are solid girlfriend or wive material. Not for casual sex.

I live in Switzerland and work with many Germans. And I go to Germany quite often for shopping. +1 on previous posters who said that German women not being feminine. Maybe they dress up when going to clubs or concerts, but out and about on the street, they dress very androgenous or masculine. I see very few women wearing skirts.

DavidZRH

Post: #111

It is not only that they do not wear skirts.They cut their hair short,they color it with unnatural colours,they have lots of piercings and tattoos and they use minimal to no make-up.Add to this the extended periphery,the unshaped legs(stork like or very fat calves),the low voice and the assless,boobless quality and you get a very unattractive picture.
Polish girls facies leave also a lot to be desired but they try to compensate with slender bodies,use of high heels,feminine clothes and make-up.Heavy boobs and shapely slavic legs set them apart from Germanic women who otherwise would look better(more dense hair than polish women,much better teeth,symmetric noses etc).It is just that they do not put the effort to do so.
It has largely to do with culture.In the harsh efficient German work environment a feminine sexy woman would appear inefficient and distracting that she also strives for boss benefits which protestant ethics exclude.It is quite a complex thing.It is much better for them to appear masculine,direct and brutal to gain trust,cause fear and advance their career.The usual Balkan,slavic sexy appearance at work(big decoltes,mini skirts,heavy make-up) strikes in Germany as unfair,superficial and total junk(too much effort for nothing).They value only cleanliness,neatness,politeness.

Post: #112

Don't know what's wrong with this teeth problem, there are actually no medical proofs about slavic teeth being ''different''. You just made it up.

Post: #113

Maybe dental medicine is not as easily accessible as it is in Western Europe. Many people would be walking around with bad teeth if they hadn't gotten treatment during their youth/childhood, think braces etc...

Post: #114

(03-09-2014 02:57 AM)sheesh Wrote:  Maybe dental medicine is not as easily accessible as it is in Western Europe. Many people would be walking around with bad teeth if they hadn't gotten treatment during their youth/childhood, think braces etc...

This is mostly the reason.Slavic women teeth decay fast and they often cannot afford dental treatment.It was a shame in CR in the '90s to see the hottest models around with bad teeth and thinking that western women with 1/10 of their beauty could afford to pay thousands to have their teeth in order.Actually one way to instantly spot a slavic woman was the combo slender,high cheeks,bad teeth.It also idicted provincial origin.The situation has remained the same in parts of Ukraine but in CR,Poland has clearly reversed due to increase of living standards.

Post: #115

I will try to revive this thread.
I am in Germany often for work, but short visits mostly too short to try and create a social circle.
SNL is my only hope. Within last year I've been out couple of times, with long breaks inbetween, went by myself (although adviced here not to), approached a lot (sometimes too much for a small club). Had some luck. Once I had this girl 7 in my list, but 8 or 9 for on a German standard. I was kissing her after 20 minutes, great attraction, it was not easy to separate her from her gilfriend group. She actually asked for my number herself, I was planning to change the venue, when the cockblocking, agressive, short, fat and generally ugly girlfriend of hers arrived. Cockblocking seems to be the big problem.
Can someone give me an advice on night game in Germany? (North-west, Bremerhaven, Cuxhaven Areas) Some secret method to crack german enigma code?

Post: #116

Quote:Can someone give me an advice on night game in Germany? (North-west, Bremerhaven, Cuxhaven Areas) Some secret method to crack german enigma code?

Germany is awful for game, there's no comparison with any other Western country. I wasted half a decade here. If you're looking for a cure-all or secret method there really isn't one to be found, but some suggestions anyway:

- Build up a reputation within a social circle. If you want to meet girls (and have any shot at success with them) you need to know guys. Gain acceptance in a high-rep circle, and poon will fall on your lap. A good rule of thumb is to spend 2/3 of your social time with guys, and 1/3 with female prospects.
- Get your German up to an intermediate or high level. They all speak perfect English, but this demonstrates commitment and respect in a culture where natives are pushed around and bullied by foreigners - both on the streets and in foreign policy. As with any country, girls are more relaxed and sociable when speaking a native language.
- Don't play "foreigner" or "traveling American" for points. It doesn't work.
- Don't play up your career, income, or possessions. Emphasize skills, hobbies, and life experiences.
- If a girl asks why you're in Germany, say "I'm scouting for a new place to live for a few years. The U.S. is boring." At first she'll be shocked and argue why the U.S. is better, then make every effort to sell you on Germany as a place to stay. They are ashamed of Germany's bad reputation and want people to view them positively; by playing the role of "evaluator", she's the one selling to you. Frame established.
- If you can speak German fluently (and only if), bring out your inner asshole. Make fun of the insanity of German clique conformity, make fun of the Turks, make fun of everything a German would not make fun of publicly. They're deep, critical thinkers and keep opinions to themselves; catch a glance of what's under the hood in their native tongue and the shell will break.

Remember, you're playing chess and not checkers. To be successful you need to be in for the long haul and really invest in the language and in your social circles. There's no pickup or rapid-fire dating scene in Germany, but there's much potential for success.

I posted a few other observations and tips in my Cologne datasheet here: /thread-45441....ht=Cologne

EDIT: This is the first time I saw this thread, I am cracking up. Fucking top notch answers.

Quote:Also, generally, I don't find most German women that attractive. I don't dislike them, and I tend to get along great with them on a platonic level, as they tend to be very good to have more intellectual conversations with, but talking to them I often feel like I'm either talking to someone who's asexual or a guy for some reason.

Post: #117

Same night lay? In Germany?

I agree. Invest in getting to know people. Look at it from the girls perspective...
why would you go out to a club just to get a same night lay from some random dude?

I've been here for more than 10 years. The club scene here is ridiculous.

There's no enthusiasm for going out and hooking up. There's not even a makeout
culture here. If you go to a club and lots of people are making out by the end of the night
then you know you have a good nightlife scene.

Here in Germany, you've got to ditch the SNL mentality. I've had it happen however you can't
go looking for it. You've got to connect with the girl and follow up 1 date, 2 dates etc.

Post: #118

Yeah the German girls i've met always seem very reserved, atleast the young ones.

They're kind of the same like the girls in Belgium where i've lived now for a couple of years.

Very difficult indeed to get a ONS with these girls , most girls tend to enter long-term relationships with guys, even if they aren't very succesfull in life yet.

Post: #119

Definitely. although I've noticed it is a much more level headed approach...
even though you might sacrifice some initial spontaneity.

It actually makes your game better...you have to develop some solid skills
rather than rely on alcohol and bad decisions to meet women.

Post: #120

Quote:It actually makes your game better...you have to develop some solid skills
rather than rely on alcohol and bad decisions to meet women.

Agreed. Germany is a great place for intermediate-level guys to sharpen up deep game skills like discussing politics with women (an art form in itself), hobbies, value systems, etc. It's challenging to rely on substance over delivery to keep a girl interested, but it greatly improves your odds in the U.S. and other more superficial countries. Just read a new book every week or two, stay up-to-date on international affairs, and deliver your opinions with conviction.

The U.S. almost seems too easy in comparison.

Post: #121

Yes!....I love watching a girl realize I actually have something more
to contribute than superficial BS. It's like an ambush...and American Girls
don't even see it coming.

It's a completely undefended area, going after their emotions, building a real relationship
being genuine and actually caring. It's completely disarming because you're giving them
what they actually want.

And the better you match with a high calibre girl (values, beliefs, chemistry), the easier
it gets...there's no resistance you need to melt because you're both in sync from the start.

Post: #122

Thanks for lots of advices. But no magic pill as I expected.
As I mentioned before I have no time to build up social circles. Just randomly paced skirmishes on german nightclubs.
Went out yesterday. Took 2 numbers and got 2 makeouts. Although someone mentioned there is no makeout culture, I found that if you find a dark corner things happen.
As I have now lost my hope for a SNL, I will try to work these girls I met using my limited time.

Post: #123

Definitely don't expect any good nightlife in Bremerhaven. I have a feeling Cuxhaven is also the same story, you are better off going to Bremen. There is plenty to do at night in Bremen. I believe someone has made a datasheet already.

Post: #124

I can co-sign on the prevailing notion that Germany's not that great a place for gaming girls.

I soured on the night-game in Hamburg, mainly because the social circles were extremely hard to crack and the bouncers frequently would not allow me into the bars if I was solo - even the dive bars. Many bouncers will also turn you away if you're with a group of all guys, or even if you don't have enough girls in your group - this usually means that the girl that you're trying to approach is almost certainly there with a group of her guy friends, which when combined with German guys' relentless cockblocking means that the nightlife (at least here) is almost designed to impede attempts to cold-approach.

The city has plenty of day game potential, but I found that running indirect game will friend-zone you 9 times out of 10. Online (Tinder) was a complete bust.

In short, if you want to do nightgame in Germany, your best bet is to go with a single wingman, dress well, and stick to Berlin and Cologne (which usually have the best reputability for game here). If daygaming, go direct, because she won't understand your intent otherwise.

Post: #125

Is it just me or did anybody else experience very high flakiness among german girls when it comes meeting up?
Seriously like especially anything that involves smartphones and texting makes them so so much worse to game.
I don't know what it is, maybe their insecureness about everything, their in general very short attention span or just their "super busy" lifestyle where you've to set the date one week in advance.
I just can't seem to hold their interest, then I wonder if it's just me, but then again in other countries I don't have that problem.

Oh and about Cologne, like in other places in the western world, nightlife and nightgame here has also here taken a great hit in the last 2 years.
The music became really shitty, a mix of 90s and 2000s in 90% of clubs, the other 10% are hipster niche techno/electro clubs with alot of weird music, not really good for picking up and not very good quality.
General quality and amount of girls in clubs also went down very noticeably, not kidding, nowadays I couldn't and wouldn't recommend any club in Cologne, it's just not fun at all, not in the aspect of music, girls or vibe.
Add to that the "nice" german bouncer culture and that the clubs are quite pricey.
I'll also switch over to daygame most likely, even though I preferred nightgame because you can hook the girl up faster since you most likely made out already the flakiness isn't that high, like with daygame where she would just ignore your text.