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RE: First hand witness of men gearing to leave US
' Enjoy the Decline '

Why would you want to when you could be part of the upswing? I hate this phrase, its defeatest and from my standpoint its a waste of precious time and energy to spend your time in feminist zones and not seeking loyalty and commitment in quality relationships. The decline is counter productive, it doesn't accomplish anything and spending time in that zone is dangerous. How many on this forum now subscribe to NOT marrying/NOT having kids and random sex with American strangers simply because they've been burned by women in the USA, probably 90% but nobody realizes that by taking this attitude you are just creating the world you live in.

Feminist doctrine:
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Sex with as many random strangers as possible
Do not have children OR take no responsibilty for those you create
We are superior thus no relationship can be possible
Complete control over self
Focus on career and money

PUA and No marriage doctrine:
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Uncommitted sex with as many women as possible
Do not have children OR take no responsibility for those you create
We are superior to stupid women
Complete control over self
Focus on career and money

The decline is happening because you are subscribing to the new 'feminism' and the more you do it, the more they will do it. The world needs children and it needs people who want to take the responsiblity to be good PARENTS. Be the change you want to see in the world, you can't complain about women being selfish if you are engaging in it. If you want to fight feminism, the solution is simple: BE conservative. Find a conservative wife and live a traditional married life.

IMO, the world's women are not meant to be BANGED and left on the side of the road, that's counter productive. If you want to create new pockets of feminism, then gaming, fvcking random women and leaving them will do it. The more partners a woman has the more she 'breaks' or 'cracks' until eventually she has no loyalty or common sense at all. I would say use the world's women as your refuge from the Feminist world not your playground. If you want to play with broken toys, stay where you are. Don't come over to another country and ruin it for the rest of us.

The Decline is the fault of those who choose to enjoy it. There are too many double standards in the manosphere and left unchecked, men will just feed into the feminist agenda. Feminists are the ones who want hypergamy, why feed them with it?

The whole point of going abroad is to return to the traditional way of life that BUILDS countries.

I think we can all agree traditional relationships built America, liberalism is destroying it. The only way to turn things around is to stamp out the opposing side.
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07-05-2014 10:08 PM
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RE: First hand witness of men gearing to leave US
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The difference is that committed PUAs follow through and even if they don't, they are still on the hook to pay for wife and kids.

Failed feminists want men to be on the hook for women's choices.

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07-05-2014 10:12 PM
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That's true, looking at my own post and then the wider spectrum, its kind of wrong to blame BANG as its a new thing really... feminism has been around for decades. I still feel that staying in the decline is just feeding into it. The best candidates for GOOD PARENTS would be the PUA's and Red Pill men but it seems as though the most educated and talented are opting out of the job. So when I look at the future the only other married w\kids people I see are going to be the loser beta jellyfish from home... its unnerving because they are the ones that also further feminist agendas by being weak. I always feel like the leader of my 'band' but its lonely at the top and it would be nice to meet some other 'leaders'.

I'm not articulate enough to put this into the proper wording but its very important to have people who don't subscribe to backstabbing, make up the majority of your circle. Any man who cow-tows to a wife is capable of doing it and I've seen it first hand among my 'friends' when they allow their wives to control the relationships. Nothing good can really come of this, no business can be built, no wars fought and nothing can be accomplished. Betas are so prone to running away from responsibilty or defering to a higher authority... is this the natural order of things? 1 man at the top in charge of thousands of jellyfish... *sigh*

I kind of think its a natural progression for red pill guys when they want to become fathers to become ultra conservative. Just 5 or 6 years ago, I was telling people that I would never get married and had bought into the whole PUA game hook line and sinker. Some time while in Brazil it hit me, I was seeking out the worst quality women (9s and 10s) putting in loads of time to game and maintain them and not getting further along in my career or life. Believe it or not, being in a stable marriage allows you to truly focus on the problems of the world and your personal finance and mindset, its a very liberating thing. I think marriage just gives you a stake in the future of the planet, even more so: children. Being a single guy or perpetually single abdicates you of any responsibility for anyone but self.

I feel responsible for your well being because maybe one day you'll have a son or daughter that will marry mine... if they aren't raised right, then you are putting my line's future at risk. I suppose that is the crux of my argument.

Its imperative to my well being and yours that red pill men marry and have children in relationships of their own design. The future of Earth depends on it.
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(02-11-2014 04:35 AM)username Wrote:  I'm not convinced there's a mass exodus of American citizens who renounce their citizenship and leave the US.

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Africa: 171,000
East Asia and Pacific: 864,000
Europe: 1,612,000
Near East: 870,000
South Central Asia: 212,000
Western Hemisphere: 2,591,000
For a total of 6,320,000


The data is from 2011, if we could get some fresh data it would be a good comparison.

there's over 300 million here. not counting Europe expats, which is similar to the us in feminism and the awful librulism, it's barely about 1.5%.

A significant percentage of those are probably somewhere for work reasons, leaving maybe 1% expats, and even less dispats. (dissatisfied expatriates)

A business that had a 99% customer loyalty would be extremely successful. The case for a huge dissatisfaction is not made.

That being said, it's because people are sheep, and the sanitation and tech in the US is great.

I SHOWED the pics of the early 20-somethings I was sleeping with in Phils to my 30-something friends without girlfriends. I'm 55+.

I INVITED them to come with me to the Phils, and offered to help them.

They noticed in a dull way the girl was cute, but as far as thinking they could DO something about their sexless lives--not a no, not a yes-- they just go to work the next day and forget about it.

People, to an unbelievable degree, lack initiative.

Don't be one of them.


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(07-06-2014 02:02 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I SHOWED the pics of the early 20-somethings I was sleeping with in Phils to my 30-something friends without girlfriends. I'm 55+.

I INVITED them to come with me to the Phils, and offered to help them.

NO reaction, not a no, not a yes-- they just go to work the next day and forget about it.

That's incredible. No reaction? I'm thinking that their programmed reaction is negative, they think you're being exploitative, but they don't even have the balls to tell you face to face.

You should be careful about trying to help people in this way, they can become haters and backstab you. But I guess I don't have to tell you that.

Drones and backstabbers. I don't want to be cynical, but honestly most randomly selected people are just fucking zombies are they not.

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07-06-2014 02:16 AM
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(07-06-2014 02:16 AM)RawGod Wrote:  
(07-06-2014 02:02 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I INVITED them t...

NO reaction, not a no, not a yes-- they just go to work the next day and forget about it.

That's incredible. No reaction?

Sorry, my description was wrong-- there WAS a reaction-- girl in pic was cuter than they could get in the USA despite fact they were taller and younger than me.

They saw she was cute.. but then their minds just shut off as far as improving their own lives. Routine completely dominates their lives.


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(07-06-2014 02:02 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  They noticed in a dull way the girl was cute, but as far as thinking they could DO something about their sexless lives--not a no, not a yes-- they just go to work the next day and forget about it.

People, to an unbelievable degree, lack initiative.

Don't be one of them.

I don't think its that, it is that most guys have this notion, from social pressure, that only losers go to Phils/Thailand. In their mind, going there would be the same as being a loser and at 30 something old, they still probably think the rat race will eventually deliver them a young wife and a boat.
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The hipsters and nerds are gearing up for an alien invasion or zombie apocalypse

But the manosphere is gearing up for a Cultural Collapse
07-06-2014 07:37 AM
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(02-11-2014 06:52 AM)spalex Wrote:  I don't understand why you need to renounce your citizenship.

The wonderful USA wants to tax your income no matter where you live. This is why many are renouncing their citizenships.

A German can work in America, and Germany doesn't want his taxes. An American can work in Germany, and the USA will want his taxes.

Many more are going to give up their citizenships. I suspect there's a long backlog that is only getting longer.
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(07-05-2014 10:08 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  The decline is counter productive, it doesn't accomplish anything and spending time in that zone is dangerous.

If a stock's price is dropping, you sell it before you lose everything. I suppose I could try pump up the stock price. But how would I do that?

Quote:The decline is happening because you are subscribing to the new 'feminism' and the more you do it, the more they will do it. The world needs children and it needs people who want to take the responsiblity to be good PARENTS.

So, what do I do when I am divorce-raped?

Quote:If you want to fight feminism, the solution is simple: BE conservative. Find a conservative wife and live a traditional married life.

How do we do this?

Quote:I think we can all agree traditional relationships built America, liberalism is destroying it. The only way to turn things around is to stamp out the opposing side.

Again, if you are so smart, how do we do this?

You can deal with the world as you wish it to be or you can deal with the world as it is. You can pretend it's not raining and not use an umbrella--we'll see how that works for you. When it's raining, I use an umbrella and stay dry. That's dealing with reality as it is.
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