Post: #1

Given the effectiveness of female shaming language/frames in popular culture, what if we turned the 'creeper' idea on it's head and gave it a male context (i.e. fat chicks) what would happen?

Rhetorically, the concept of a "creep" is a brilliant and powerful strategy of keeping men they don't desire (i.e. non-alphas, non-rich guys, etc) away and in many cases getting them to change their behavior. It's completely subjective to them, so they can interpret a 'creep' however they like. And we even have laws and social norms designed to accommodate this strategy.

Also take note of female body language around what they deem "undesirable" men. It has gotten to the point (in the US) where most guys are literally scared shitless to approach an average looking girl for fear of a negative reaction. Would guys, en masse, making the same body language cues around ugly or fat girls have an equally powerful effect?

Women really are ahead of the game lol.

Thoughts?

Post: #2

I started using creepy on women a while back. It really pisses them off. Especially if you deem their friend creepy. I only use it on any non-boner inducing chicks.

A couple of recent examples.

Ex. 1. I was at a bar and mostly striking out with the chick I wanted. She directs my interest to her friend at the jukebox. Her 200-plus pound friend. I turned back to the girl and said, "Ew. Creepy."

Haha. You should have seen the face of this incensed chick.

Ex 2. A colleague at work, young and hot, but married, was going to attend her SINGLE sister's Bday party. She wanted a couple of us from work to go, so it would be a bigger crowd.
She says, "HeyPete, wanna come to my sister's bday party next weekend? She's single!"
I ask: "How old will she be turning?" She says, "41"
I said: "Creepy. No."
She says: "Asshole."
I said: "29 and under. 29 and under only."

Post: #3

Cellulite is creepy.

We should also keep saying how nasty fat women are.

Post: #4

Girls can't be creepy.

That would be like calling a child or a dog creepy.

I don't think it makes sense for guys to copying feminist language, especially feminist shaming language. Imagine back during segregation if black people tried to call white people "niggers" in attempt to "fight fire with fire". To me, this is a similar kind of situation. Creepy doesn't work for girls. There's nothing a girl can do to creep me out. I've already accepted that they are for the most part irrational creatures when it comes to sex and dating at least (and in many other aspects of their lives), and that their perspectives are limited greatly by their myopic solipsism.

Post: #5

(02-02-2014 07:47 AM)soup Wrote:  Girls can't be creepy.

That would be like calling a child or a dog creepy.

I don't think it makes sense for guys to copying feminist language.

Treat it like carpet bombing on a failed military conquest.

The town was saved after you burned it down. The purpose is to just nuke and walk. At the point these would get used, the lay was lost anyway.

In a battle of emotion (note not logic), the last word always wins.

Post: #6

(02-02-2014 07:47 AM)soup Wrote:  Girls can't be creepy.

That would be like calling a child or a dog creepy.

I don't think it makes sense for guys to copying feminist language.

Agreed. "Unpalatable?"

Post: #7

Also I don't argue with girls. Again, it would be like arguing with your pet or child. Using creepy is getting into their ring or frame. If you let the girl frame, you've already lost the "battle".

To a larger point, there is no conflict with women. They don't really have any physical power over men. The problem is that there are too many white knights / betas out there who will do their bidding.

We can't argue with women but feminism itself must be checked for sure. It's an ideology that seems to be manipulating the minds of the majority of both men and women in America.

Post: #8

(02-02-2014 12:07 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  Given the effectiveness of female shaming language/frames in popular culture, what if we turned the 'creeper' idea on it's head and gave it a male context (i.e. fat chicks) what would happen?

Rhetorically, the concept of a "creep" is a brilliant and powerful strategy of keeping men they don't desire (i.e. non-alphas, non-rich guys, etc) away and in many cases getting them to change their behavior. It's completely subjective to them, so they can interpret a 'creep' however they like. And we even have laws and social norms designed to accommodate this strategy.

This stuff has a long and ignominious history in this country. It used to be known as the crime of "Reckless Eyeballing". Society had set up one class of people (young white women) as "too good" for another group to date, approach or even look at. If you were found to "Reckless Eyeballing" you could be savagely beaten or murdered without consequence in a brutal lynching.

Eventually, society realized this was barbaric, and society moved forward. Then society decided to pick single out another class of people for similar treatment, and they were no longer allowed to look a young pretty girls either.

Post: #9

We have our own words like ugly, slut and old. I think they hit hard too.

Post: #10

(02-02-2014 02:00 PM)Daddy Wrote:  We have our own words like ugly, slut and old. I think they hit hard too.

I assumed girls universally-understood 'fat' means 'ugly', which is why the keyword of fat acceptance dogma is 'beautiful'.