Post: #26

(02-02-2014 06:11 PM)Akula Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 04:45 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

bacon Wrote:For a wife: Albania,Bosnia, Macedonia, croatia (ideally muslim woman in his words). Also no particular order.

As a local, I find this hilarious. I can understand the other three (especially Macedonia and Albania), but how did he manage to lump Croatia under that? The only thing our women have going for them is that they're very pretty. The country is developed enough that marrying out of the country doesn't present a significant motive like in Albania or parts of Ukraine, and the local laws concerning marriage are awful. The divorce rate is 30% and growing. Hamster rules all the national media. People go to jail over child support (with imputed income, of course). Domestic abuse and rape hysteria is at an all-time high despite actual levels being low. The traditional culture is dead. Just... no.

G*damm Croatia only just joined the EU in the summer of 2013 and was a charter member or whatever for just a few years before that. How the f*ck did it all go pear-shaped so quickly and become so PC/feminized/misandrist? I guess being right next door to the Feminist EUSSR for awhile is enough? I'm a little surprised it's that bad but as Roosh has said and we all know it only takes a few years for it all to go to hell especially given the climate globally right now towards hererosexuality and masculinity (at least among the various Western mainstream media).

IMO this is not necessarily a product of EU. Ironically, Croatia was still fairly conservative back when it was part of the communist Yugoslavia 25 years ago. In the chaos that followed its dissolution and war, a new value system emerged: while nominally it's "Catholic", it's more of the kind of Catholicism that Dalrock often slams, and even then the liberal forces have gotten immense leverage because of the conservative parties proving themselves guilty of massive corruption and other crimes.

So the disproportionately large strength of the feminist crowd in our country (relative to its GDP per capita) is a product of:
A) fast and painful transition from the wrecks of the old system,
B) weakness and idiocy of local conservatives, and
C) overall Americanization pushed by both the USA (through popular culture) and EU (through grants and funding).

If I had to estimate the importance of EU, I don't think it's contributed more than 10-15% to the current sad state of affairs. The number will be larger in the future, but so far it doesn't seem to be.

With all that said, absolutely do come over to enjoy SNLs, adventures and mini-relationships with local women. They're hot and worth the effort. Just don't have illusions about marrying here.

Post: #27

(02-02-2014 12:01 PM)Icarus Wrote:  What if I got a young, pretty, smart Russian girl, brought her to Western Europe, and got her pregnant asap? Assuming that fatherhood does not make me a beta tool, will having children keep her invested in the relationship? Or would she break up, keep the kids, and force me to pay alimony? Does motherhood make those female devils any less predatorial? Are those little dark hearts capable of thinking of what is best for their own children in the long term?

Frankly, I don't see the point of having an LTR girlfriend unless one wants to have kids. Unless she's a serious girlfriend, I want to meet neither her parents, nor her friends, as one day we break up and I realize I wasted all that time trying to build trust with people who are now utterly useless to me. For me, women are either sex objects or potential mothers of the fruit of my loins, nothing in between is possible. I don't want to spend solid amounts of time with a woman whose womb will not be carrying my offspring within a couple of years.

It sounds like you'd be having children as a means of negotiating/ensuring a woman's loyalty. These are the wrong grounds for starting a family imo.

I'm actually struggling with a similar situation:
I met my dream girl (21) online and after 2 months went to see her in Kherson, Ukraine last summer. Best two weeks of my life, every minute was total joy... but when the two weeks were over, they were over. All I could do was think about how to get her to the US (impossible) and if not, when I would see her again?

She is very attached to her family and her English isn't so good. She's never been outside Ukraine before and never been on a plane or even driven a car. By looks alone I would put her at a 9, but with a feminine innocence and simplicity that is not to be found anywhere in the western world. I know that if I bring her here I would risk tainting her character, but its a risk I'm willing to take.

Even though she's a small town Ukrainian girl, she is very aware of her beauty and still tries to shit test me. I'm well aware of her hypergamous side, but I'm also confident in my ability to keep her in check as I've done thus far. I'm sure this is part of why I like her so much; dominating her innate whorishness is a challenge that keeps me coming back.

Anyway, if its not obvious I definitely have a case of the onezies for this girl, but outside of getting her pregnant I don't know how else to continue being with her. The distance and the time apart sucks. I don't question her ability as a mother or a wife, I just question my own motives; getting a girl pregnant just to see if a relationship would work is a huge risk...

Post: #28

(02-08-2014 05:30 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  It sounds like you'd be having children as a means of negotiating/ensuring a woman's loyalty. These are the wrong grounds for starting a family imo.

Sure. But you're missing my point.

I do not want a girlfriend unless she will become the mother of my children at some point. However, I obviously don't want her to one day get bored and go for divorce, and then I only see my kids once every few weeks. Rather have no family than a broken family!!

I don't expect much loyalty from women, and I know how treacherous they can be, but I expect them to be loyal to their own children and control their dark natures to keep the family intact. Maybe I still expect too much...

Post: #29

(02-08-2014 05:30 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  Anyway, if its not obvious I definitely have a case of the onezies for this girl, but outside of getting her pregnant I don't know how else to continue being with her. The distance and the time apart sucks. I don't question her ability as a mother or a wife, I just question my own motives; getting a girl pregnant just to see if a relationship would work is a huge risk...

As I've written before in other threads... being the father of her children is no reason for an FSU woman to stay with a man. An entire generation of children in the Soviet Union were raised in fatherless families by their mothers and grandmothers, so it became entirely normal. Even today around half of all children have little or no contact with their fathers.

Despite what she tells you and what you may think, her idea of marriage (as an FSU/Orthodox woman) and yours (as a Westerner) are very different. It's more about the journey for them... their lives very much reflect their literature, which is full of stories of failed love affairs. So whenever you hear an FSU woman talking about eternal love and similar rubbish, just remember that she's doing it for the emotional trip, not because she believes it will turn out that way.

Post: #30

(02-02-2014 02:18 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  to keep them.. you have to be a combination of PUTIN and Stalin reborned!

Changing my name to this

Post: #31

(02-01-2014 11:31 PM)bacon Wrote:  Meet a cat from Turkey who brought this up I am curious how his thinking is in mind with other members experiences in EE.

For sex go to Moldova, Russia Ukraine(no particular order)

For a wife: Albania,Bosnia, Macedonia, croatia (ideally muslim woman in his words). Also no particular order.

He was a bald fat dude with a cute Albanian muslim wife so he has some authority on speaking about this but of course I adhere to the greater RVF wisdom on subjects like this. So please share your opinions.

Sound true to me, I would but Bulgaria in the fuck zone. Macedonia is less religious in my opinion, the Bosnia, Albania and poland. Nice view on the subject