Post: #1

I know there's some older guys on this forum, so I thought this would be an interesting question to throw up, and it might help the younger guys on here, especially with everyone more or less focusing on some common goals (money, women, travel, etc)...

Knowing what you know now - with how the world works, where you see the world in the future, etc - if you were turning 20 tomorrow, what would you be doing with your life? Where would you be taking your aspirations, what would your plans be with the state of the world as it is right now?

Would you want yourself to be in a good university preparing for a professional career? Trade school, learning how to program, blogging, teaching English? Entrepreneur? Where in the world would you go? Lifestyle? Women?

Just thought this would be an interesting question to throw up...I'm sure many have had eye-opening experiences here...if you had a chance to wake up tomorrow, 20 years old, what would you do with your life, knowing what you know?

Post: #2

I would have read a lot more. I also would have worked a lot harder. I would also find someone I wanted to become by that age and use them as a mentor/for guidance.

20 years old you should be high strung like a piano string. Use that energy, all of it, to get smarter, make more money and befriend elite people. Don't waste your energy trying to get laid, that should be a 5% time commitment at most, put up the big blocks first. 1) health,2) money. Girls are always going to be in the area.

Post: #3

I'd take school more seriously, or to be more specific, I wouldn't have picked my major out of 'job security' and picked a major that I was actually passionate about. Going into college, I seriously, seriously wanted to work as a lead engineer on top shelf cars like Corvette, Porsche, etc, but a few things really put a damper to it, and my parents strongly suggested to do something that is more secure. Picking a career you actually like makes a massive difference in your motivation to get through class.

Looking back if I majored in say finance or engineering....I could have been out of college by 20, and not now because of the classes I took while in high school.

Other than that, really nothing that I can think of. Making mistakes on game is a part of growing up.

Post: #4

Having turned 20 recently I believe I can definitely benefit from advice given in this thread..

If there's one thing that is for sure is to take care of your body. Put on some muscle and strength, play a sport or do some type of cardio, limit alcohol and smoking, get into juicing, etc.

Post: #5

^ me to, I turn 20 in about two months

Post: #6

Stay away from porn/tv. I wasted years with porn/tv/video games. Get out meet real girls and experience life to the fullest. I am 27--wasted college years with porn. Don't make my mistake.

Fuck school. Get a real degree in STEM. I wasted time getting a degree in history. I at least got a secondary degree in accounting. Don't fuck around with liberal arts degrees---Waste of time and no income after graduation.

Post: #7

Strike: I asked this exact same question 2 years ago. And a lot of GOLDEN advice was given. Check it out:

/thread-15096-...#pid252408

Post: #8

Going to keep an eye on this thread as I turn 21 in a few months time.

A few things that seem pretty universal

• Work hard
• Gym
• Work your game
• Dont waste all your cash partying
• Build good habits (keeping your apartment clean etc)
• Dont settle down
  

Post: #9

1). I'd somehow save up $1000 or $2000, invest it in a growth stock with a dividend and leave there till I was 40. An energy stock might be a good deal. Find a stock and see how it tracks on the graphs. The people at ScottTrade are usually willing to give recommendations. Make sure there is a dividend for maximum return.

2). Meet more women and capitalize on that. Virtually everyone is young and single at 20. Soon they'll be paired off in houses with kids. Appreciate it when they're all mostly free -- the chance won't come again.

I've said these things before here, but they're probably worth repeating.

Post: #10

I would tell my chubby 20 year old self to sack up, lift some weights, eat better, and talk to some girls.

Other than that, I still don't really have career/location/life figured out, and I'm getting a bit older, so not really sure what I would tell me.

Post: #11

don't go to uni. work, save money, buy property and invest and reinvest until 35, then retire.

Post: #12

Learn muay thay and get really serious with it, study an engineering degree (the thing I didn't do because college counsellours were telling me to do something I like, I liked making money so I chose to do a business degree..dumb ass), travel to countries where I like the local women (I wasted a lot of time travelling around Europe for easy sex, I only used to hit Brazil often back then (outside of Europe), I wish I was coming to DR or Colombia back then), approach more and don't give a fuck about rejection, work out everyday, read a lot and buy a kindle (knowledge is never enough), stop hanging out with thugs, stop trusting other people and know that nobody is your real friend (I wish i knew that shit long time ago) and remember that women don't like nice guys, work on your aggressiveness, specially if your target is black women.

Post: #13

(01-26-2014 08:44 AM)English Wrote:  Going to keep an eye on this thread as I turn 21 in a few months time.

A few things that seem pretty universal

• Work hard
• Gym
• Work your game
• Dont waste all your cash partying
• Build good habits (keeping your apartment clean etc)
• Dont settle down
  

I turn 20 in 11 months, and this is my life. Also on top of this I am learning an additional language which isn't that hard if you make traveling your lifestyle; i would recommend this if you can manage it. Just remember to set and write down goals beyond where you can accurately visualize, you need to be able to look back 6-9 months ago and look back at what you set out to do, its too easy to forget what you used to be at our age since so much changes so fast . The first time you accomplish and smash your goals enjoy it. Every year gets easier.

Get laid now so that when you're rich you know that you had enough game to get her anyways. But as you start racking up notches I think you'll realize the importance of money, live healthy and push yourself.

Post: #14

All good advice.

One to add: Start getting rid of the toxic relationships in your life -- energy vampires, crazy people (literally), deadweights, etc.
I've seen good people get dragged down or get in fucked up situations just by hanging around the wrong people, male or female.

Most people seem to ditch most of this bullshit by the time they're around 30. Most.

Some bridges are worth being burned when your wellbeing is at stake.

Post: #15

1. Learn how to be emotionally strong and assertive.
2. Workout and get a kick ass body.
3. Get a degree that will get you a job (liberal arts stuff you can learn on your own by reading).
4. Don't take shit from anyone including family. You're your own man and will live your life on your terms.
5. Conquer your approach anxiety and talk to hot girls all the time.
6. Pursue a career that pays well, but doesn't require more than 40 hours per week.
7. Give up passive pursuits like tv and video games.
8. Pick a half dozen or less social hobbies to become good at (e.g., skiing, volleyball, etc).

Post: #16

Put in the work now, do it when energy and motivation is high. Doesn't mean you can't have a good time and slay pussy while working hard. But know what you are trying to achieve and stay committed (unless new information justifies a revision of goals).

This phrase I heard years ago but it rings true for me.

Play now, work later or work now, play later. Whatever you do last you do longest.

Post: #17

I just turned 20 a few days ago. After spending a few days recovering from the blackout shitshow that my birthday was, I'm ready to hit the ground running for my 20's.

There is a lot of great general advice here, and each person needs to tailor it to their own personalities, aspirations and demons.

I say demons because the number one thing stopping us from reaching our full potential isn't our circumstances, or our natural abilities, or the way the cards were dealt to us. It is weakness in our fundamental mindsets about how we ought to live our lives. This weakness manifests in Laziness. Procrastination. Apathy. Limiting Beliefs. Emotional Baggage. I believe the key to overriding these natural mindsets is to cultivate productive habits, rigorous self-awareness and a mindset of utter positivity and urgency. At 20 perhaps I have a lot of time to fuck up, experience new things and figure myself out. But the clock is ticking for all of us at the same rate. 20, 30, 40, time always moves on with no regard for human life. So might as well fuck shit up 100% in this fleeting existence of ours.

Just 2 years ago I remember how naive and insecure I felt with women before I really took the plunge into game. After I did, progress was slow. I went months stuck in theory mode, not willing to expose my fragile ego in field. But the more I read and internalized, the more I began to change for the better. My first kiss close in a club with a girl two years older than me - what a fucking rush! My beta friends wanted to keep me on their level, talked shit about how I was trying to become someone I wasn't. Ignored their hate. Kept approaching. Kept hitting it up, trusting the process. Started getting makeouts more and more regularly. Fucked up a few potential lays. Learned from them. Got laid. Quality of chicks I hook up with slowly increasing. I have so much to learn but the ball is rolling.

I really think that the sweet taste of improvement in anything - game, my schoolwork, physically, whatever - is what gives me a reason to roll out of bed every morning and start grinding. For me this community is awesome because of the mission we share of pushing our limits as men in a society that in many ways tries to neuter and stifle us. Not sure how I got on this tangent. Dreams and goals are nice. But ruthless implementation is the name of the game.

Post: #18

I fell asleep thinking about this topic. To be honest the best way to summarize this is stop consuming information that is not actionable and only take advice from people who are better than you.

Game: if the guy is better looking than you ignore him and find someone who is uglier than you banging the girls you want to bang

Money: is the guy rich? No? Then he doesn't have a right to an opinion and ignore everything he says. You need to develop a strong bullshit meter and sniff out the brokes from the rich. Even if you "feel" the brokes are "right" on something it doesn't fucking matter. Why? Who do you want to be friends with? A rich dude or a poor dude? How do you make friends? By having a similar belief system.

Health: this is first above money and game get your shit together. Get as buff as you can without drugs. Eat as healthy as possible .

Close the doors: you're only 20 the chances you have the skills to bring someone out of the gutter is near zero. So? Your friends are going nowhere? Delete their number forever. Next. Don't care if they complain to your mom and dad next them too if they are dragging you down.

That's pretty much it. Don't read anything on the manosphere that can't make you better. No matter how much cultural analysis there is unless you can profit from it or take actions from it stop reading the shit and close the browser. You're 20 you only have one shot to make it, if you're consuming information that you can't use today in this instant moment, you're wasting your time.

You're so young you have to realize if someone is not making you better you are pissing away your own time. Don't hang out with unsuccessful people let them fall off into the abyss.

Post: #19

Travel as much as you can even if it's just your own country. Nothing will give you more self-confidence and potentially life-changing experiences in a short time than thrusting yourself into foreign places for some weeks or months. Travel alone, preferably to places with not many tourists. Immerse yourself in a different culture for a while and try to avoid spending too much time in backpacker communities.

Forge long-lasting friendships. This is the time of your life where it's relatively easy to meet new people and to create friendships myths that make these relationships resilient, deep and meaningful. Approach girls as much as you can but don't forget to go out with the boys on a regular basis. Do road trips, go to festivals, get wasted, talk about anything without mincing matters, get into fights, sing along while you roll in packs through the streets. Once you get out of university and move around a lot of, you will learn to appreciate the memories of these shared moments and the genuity of these friendships as they are likely to become rarer. Bros before hoes.

There is more than enough time to build your carreer. I'm gonna go against what some people wrote here. Don't forget: It's very likely that people from our generation will get at least 90 years old. Nonetheless, we will work longer than our parents and grandparents in rapidly changing work environments, and probably get less retirement money on average. There is no need to rush into the labor market directly after college and get a time consuming job that might pay you well but will rob you of a lot of leisure time and quality of life. I'm not advocating a slacker lifestyle here, just find the right balance between having a decent income from whatever sources and having enough to time work on yourself plus enjoying the pleasures of life. You can get hit by car and drop dead any day. Before that you should have done something that doesn't only serve your employer but also yourself and the people around you.

Get a well-rounded education. The most important, interesting and useful skills and things you will likely not learn at university. Consider every day as an opportunity to educate yourself. Inform yourself about national politics, international affairs, contract law, finances, nutrition, technology, culture, etc. on a daily basis. Read literature; both the classics and contemporary stuff; both non-fiction books and newspapers. Know your rights as you can get into conflict with the law at any time. Learn at least one more language and practice it regularly. Talk with others about the things you've learned as it helps you to internalize them. Don't just surround yourself with people that share your opinion. Rather, get in touch with individuals that have different viewpoints. Learn from them, modify your arguments and use that to defend your stance. Take public speeking or acting classes; it will help you in many life situations.

Post: #20

I would say, make money. Either as an entrepreneur or in a STEM field where you will have skills of lifelong economic value.

If you have a solid financial foundation before 30 you will be way ahead, in practical terms and because you have built discipline and an understanding of how the world works.

Recognise your weaknesses. Partying, spending, neglecting your health, wasting time, spreading yourself too thin on different hobbies and interests can all be dangerous but these issues can be difficult to identify in yourself.

Post: #21

Join the gym, eat clean, no junk food, limit comp games, limit tv, say yes more, be more social, sit in the front half of the class and listen in lectures, make a lot of friends at uni and share all your work.

Post: #22

Work out, Work hard, and not waste time. Luckily for me, I discovered game and red pill when I was 20 so it was a perfect time.

Post: #23

I'll start off with some general advice: You should be spending your twenties planting, rather than harvesting.

Learning, growing, earning, grinding = planting

Relaxing, partying, being comfortable = harvesting

Breaking it down by areas of life:

Health - Your twenties are your prime time to spend building muscle, athleticism and an overall base of health to carry you through your life. Superficial reasons for lifting weights aside, a muscular body will keep you alive and mobile until your 60s and beyond. Commit to 3x hard barbell workouts a week for the next decade, and take up hard contact sports and/or martial arts.

Career - Westcoast's advice is good. Find mentors, put yourself around people who already have the career/money you want, and study them. Have a plan and be careful not to lock yourself into a role or path that doesn't lead you where you want to be.

Girls - Seek discomfort. Push your limits. Spend time tightening your game by chasing girls out of your league (planting) rather than running the same moves and banging the same level of girls you've had before (harvesting).

Focus - Read constantly, widely, and systematically. Keep a commonplace book. Keep a journal. Meditate.

Bringing it back to some specifics, here are a few mistakes I've made in the eight years since my 20th birthday:

Drinking too much - I played rugby and went to a party school. I spent between a quarter and half my waking hours drunk or hungover, for many years. The result was a lot of fun, but way too much wasted time and energy.

Too much time spent on mediocre girls - I spent a lot of years chasing quantity over quality, mostly because I was driven by ego. I wanted to be the "cool guy" banging tons of girls, even though I was getting much more pleasure and satisfaction from the small number of top tier girls I came across.

Not taking my career seriously - I was the smart kid in high school who got As without trying, and I maintained that approach in my career. I got an easy 9-5 job, I maintained my small side business rather than growing it, and I dicked around with a few blogs rather than invest the time and energy to go pro.

Traveling for fun rather than with purpose - I took a year off to backpack and it was a blast, but no twenty-five year old deserves a one-year vacation. You should be traveling in your twenties, but you should be working, learning, and growing, not partying in hostels.

Lay out your current situation in life and the guys here will be able to give you better and more specific advice.

Post: #24

1) Finish your schooling as quick as possible, get a degree.
2) Get a job and save half of your money.
3) Travel to far away places, it will open your eyes and make you appreciate what you have.
4) Bang all types of girls, you will be surprised which ones you will like.
5) Learn a language, ideally french, spanish or russian. (This will open up more job opportunities)
6) Put together a good wardrobe, quality clothes will last you alot longer.
7) Hold off on the flashy car with the fancy wheels.
8) limit debt
9) Get a mentor who you admire, this would actually be further up the list.
10) Invest in something and leave it alone. I know alot of people talk about the stock market, but I know alot of people who lost ridiculous money on the market. Do you remember Black Monday? Probably not, but I do.
11) Keep in shape and workout, it is probably the best stress reliever you can find.
12) Have a hobby and no not playing video games.
13) Drinking is dumb and over rated.
14) Ditto for drugs

Post: #25

I would have worked more on the sides of my studies. You can learn a lot working in the right place, in many times much more than you learn at a university.
I would have traveled earlier. Traveling around asia learned me that there is really no risk in my life. The risks I had taken until that time had to be considered minor.

In the 19th century people left Europe, in many situations had to say goodbye to some family members with the possibility of never seeing them again. They had very limited information about the new country they were going to. No way they could communicate with the people they left behind.

Still many people feel like they are taking an enormous risk taking a job a few hours away in a car.