Post: #26

I"m a black guy in ATL and any non black guy will already be leagues ahead by default because these bitches have a permanent scorned mentality of "niggas aint shit". We always have to go through the wringer because of our reputation for being cheating dogs, athletes, fake ballers etc etc.

I see so many FINE ASS black and minority women with plain ass non black dudes because they don't get put in a category of various stereotypes. Take advantage of that clean slate.

Post: #27

Just as a bit of background, I'm hispanic. People say I remind them of Drake. I personally think it's because we have the same skin tone and I always have a taper fade.

Anyway, in general, black girls are extremely receptive to me. I can approach them and they're always smiling tryin to push the conversation forward. Even when i dont approach, they more often than not, give signals of wanting to talk. They also dont hide their sexual interest. Some of them even stare at my package and make no qualms about getting caught. They get a lot of bad rep in general but I always have fun with them.
For instance, last nigt I went out to a club and every single black girl I approached was down to dance (it was 3). I remember going upstairs and the second one I approached was with a friend. Her body was so sculpted I got a chub just walking over to her. We first started by facing head on and she said, "you know, I'm taken. My boyfriend is at the restroom but dont leave now my friend is single." I looked over at her and she was a 5, i said, "nah".lol. She then turned around and started slamming my piece with that soft ass of hers. I ejected because this same scenario played out last year and I got into a fight because of it. I didnt want my night to end early over some lizard. anyway, about 30 minutes later, I see her holding hands with some black guy leaving.

As for white girls, I usually get no approach signals. Once I open them however, they usually become receptive. White girls do seemna bit more passive in the beginning but I think this just depends on her ideal type. They are also very curious about other cultures even if they wont admit it. Almost every single one of them likes me talking spanish or asks me to teach them latin dances. Which most completely suck at.

Post: #28

(01-26-2014 04:25 PM)crunkpopeye Wrote:  I"m a black guy in ATL and any non black guy will already be leagues ahead by default because these bitches have a permanent scorned mentality of "niggas aint shit". We always have to go through the wringer because of our reputation for being cheating dogs, athletes, fake ballers etc etc.

I see so many FINE ASS black and minority women with plain ass non black dudes because they don't get put in a category of various stereotypes. Take advantage of that clean slate.

Dude, where the hell in ATL are you gaming? Those are the same exact girls saying "I just wanna guy that has something going for himself". Have something going for yourself and those legs spread much easier. Now if you're talking about going through bullshit with LTR, I think finding a girl who isn't jealous, or one that doesn't have trust issues is kinda rare...white or black. A black guy with his shit together slays pussy here. The number of black gay guys is overwhelming, the number of black guys who don't have shit to offer is just as high (and they still kill it in certain areas), the number of black guys without game is up there too. If you have game, style, you're healthy, and have just a little ambition the "niggas aint shit" attitude should be non-issue for you.

Post: #29

(01-25-2014 10:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  I feel like with white girls, even if you're not her type she'll give you a few minutes to see what you've got to say. If you're interesting, you might change that initial coldness or indifference around. They will hear you out for a moment. Rarely if ever am I immediately shut down by a white girl, even if she's clearly not feeling it.

From my experiences, the total opposite is true for me. Me being in the Deep South and you being on the West Coast has to have something to do with it, I'm sure. I actually met a white woman from Oakland last night and she hung out with me for the next hour or so. Something like that would hardly ever happen from one of these coveted "Southern Belles." I get outright rejected and ignored by nearly all white mainstream white women. Women here from out of town are wayyy more pleasant.

Post: #30

(01-26-2014 05:55 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 10:08 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  I feel like with white girls, even if you're not her type she'll give you a few minutes to see what you've got to say. If you're interesting, you might change that initial coldness or indifference around. They will hear you out for a moment. Rarely if ever am I immediately shut down by a white girl, even if she's clearly not feeling it.

From my experiences, the total opposite is true for me. Me being in the Deep South and you being on the West Coast has to have something to do with it, I'm sure. I actually met a white woman from Oakland last night and she hung out with me for the next hour or so. Something like that would hardly ever happen from one of these coveted "Southern Belles." I get outright rejected and ignored by nearly all white mainstream white women. Women here from out of town are wayyy more pleasant.

The deep south is a whole different animal. That is the twisted environment that spawned the IRT.

Post: #31

I think black girls just sense weakness in a man quicker than white girls do and are very brutally unforgiving. The reason you see them gravitate towards black guys with saggy pants and shirts three sizes too big is because those dudes project a strong masculine vibe which many black girls like.

For example when I first started learning game I remember one of my first approaches was a black girl in a bar. When I opened her up she immediately gave me her number because she was in a rush to leave and said to call her to set up a date. I thought it was going to be easy. I called her 2 days later to talk about setting up a place to drink, which she then agreed. She then flaked and never answered my calls. I later learned through a friend who knew her that the reason she flaked was because I sounded too "white" to her which I then interpreted to be sounding "feminine or straight up gay". Something about my speech and my voice on the phone just turned her off even though she thought I was good looking.

Because of this I learned that when you step to any black woman you absolutely must be masculine, dominant, and cool, especially with the way you talk and carry yourself. Black women have a lower tolerance for perceived weakness and lameness in a man compared to white girls.

Post: #32

Black girls are generally unattractive to me.
I've experienced two totally different kinds of black girls:
One kind is very nice and will listen/care about you no matter what; she's kind
The other kind is fucking ratchet as hell and thinks she can be loud and rude. This kind of black girl usually has a name like La'Shonjra and thinks she's the shit. Yes, she's the shit, but not the way she thinks she is.

Post: #33

(01-26-2014 06:11 PM)MidWest Wrote:  I think black girls just sense weakness in a man quicker than white girls do and are very brutally unforgiving. The reason you see them gravitate towards black guys with saggy pants and shirts three sizes too big is because those dudes project a strong masculine vibe which many black girls like.

For example when I first started learning game I remember one of my first approaches was a black girl in a bar. When I opened her up she immediately gave me her number because she was in a rush to leave and said to call her to set up a date. I thought it was going to be easy. I called her 2 days later to talk about setting up a place to drink, which she then agreed. She then flaked and never answered my calls. I later learned through a friend who knew her that the reason she flaked was because I sounded too "white" to her which I then interpreted to be sounding "feminine or straight up gay". Something about my speech and my voice on the phone just turned her off even though she thought I was good looking.

Because of this I learned that when you step to any black woman you absolutely must be masculine, dominant, and cool, especially with the way you talk and carry yourself. Black women have a lower tolerance for perceived weakness and lameness in a man compared to white girls.

Interestingly, black women seem to love Italian men. Maybe it's the media image of them being gangsta and macho.

Post: #34

White girls are just brought up to be more polite. They'll do ANYTHING to avoid "awkward" situations. It's just more polite and less "awkward" for her hear you out.

It's pleasant but it's fake.

Post: #35

(01-26-2014 06:21 PM)Kish Wrote:  White girls are just brought up to be more polite. They'll do ANYTHING to avoid "awkward" situations. It's just more polite and less "awkward" for her hear you out.

It's pleasant but it's fake.

If you can get her interested in you, it sure as hell isn't fake. You gotta use your BS detector.

Post: #36

(01-26-2014 06:16 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:11 PM)MidWest Wrote:  I think black girls just sense weakness in a man quicker than white girls do and are very brutally unforgiving. The reason you see them gravitate towards black guys with saggy pants and shirts three sizes too big is because those dudes project a strong masculine vibe which many black girls like.

For example when I first started learning game I remember one of my first approaches was a black girl in a bar. When I opened her up she immediately gave me her number because she was in a rush to leave and said to call her to set up a date. I thought it was going to be easy. I called her 2 days later to talk about setting up a place to drink, which she then agreed. She then flaked and never answered my calls. I later learned through a friend who knew her that the reason she flaked was because I sounded too "white" to her which I then interpreted to be sounding "feminine or straight up gay". Something about my speech and my voice on the phone just turned her off even though she thought I was good looking.

Because of this I learned that when you step to any black woman you absolutely must be masculine, dominant, and cool, especially with the way you talk and carry yourself. Black women have a lower tolerance for perceived weakness and lameness in a man compared to white girls.

Interestingly, black women seem to love Italian men. Maybe it's the media image of them being gangsta and macho.

Reminded me of this

Post: #37

(01-26-2014 06:16 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(01-26-2014 06:11 PM)MidWest Wrote:  I think black girls just sense weakness in a man quicker than white girls do and are very brutally unforgiving. The reason you see them gravitate towards black guys with saggy pants and shirts three sizes too big is because those dudes project a strong masculine vibe which many black girls like.

For example when I first started learning game I remember one of my first approaches was a black girl in a bar. When I opened her up she immediately gave me her number because she was in a rush to leave and said to call her to set up a date. I thought it was going to be easy. I called her 2 days later to talk about setting up a place to drink, which she then agreed. She then flaked and never answered my calls. I later learned through a friend who knew her that the reason she flaked was because I sounded too "white" to her which I then interpreted to be sounding "feminine or straight up gay". Something about my speech and my voice on the phone just turned her off even though she thought I was good looking.

Because of this I learned that when you step to any black woman you absolutely must be masculine, dominant, and cool, especially with the way you talk and carry yourself. Black women have a lower tolerance for perceived weakness and lameness in a man compared to white girls.

Interestingly, black women seem to love Italian men. Maybe it's the media image of them being gangsta and macho.

Perfect storm Speak. But for Black guyz they can smell the white girl lust from a mile away.

Post: #38

Here in Portugal most of the black girl are either immigrants from the former colonies or they were born here from immigrant parents, in general they can be pretty "ghetto-ish" , that type I do not like. The other type is what I call oreos, they're black on the outside but on the inside they are whiter than me, lol, this kind of girls usually goes more for white guys or brown ones, mostly white, but if the brown one looks like Will Smith or so, he's all set. These oreo girls are generally quite goodlooking especially for someone like myself that finds black women attractive. They do have one hell of an attitude, shit test me till tomorrow too (the oreos not so much), but are easier to lay. The oreos are more kind, less of a shit tester, but it's more likely you'll only bang her if you're in a relationship...

Post: #39

From my experience black women enjoy and expect courtship, often making them, at least to me, less flexible. If you dont call them back when they expect, or switch your plans or just take a casually aloof approach they react poorly. You could say they have this princess attitude which makes taking it slow harder to do, because of their expectations. As far as gaming on the street, day game in particular, some of my best recent relationships have been with black women. Super high quality, tall, high degree'd, easy conversation and fast connection leading to more quickly, I am often drawn to these women. I have all but lost interest in white girls. My last five have been black, persian, brazilian, cuban & black. Just bored with white girls in general and dont really care to indulge again soon.

Post: #40

(01-26-2014 04:25 PM)crunkpopeye Wrote:  I"m a black guy in ATL and any non black guy will already be leagues ahead by default because these bitches have a permanent scorned mentality of "niggas aint shit". We always have to go through the wringer because of our reputation for being cheating dogs, athletes, fake ballers etc etc.

I see so many FINE ASS black and minority women with plain ass non black dudes because they don't get put in a category of various stereotypes. Take advantage of that clean slate.

I don't usually post...

But I've been living in the ATL for the past 10+ years, and this is a pretty off-the-mark statement.

ChocoCockoZeus said what I was going to say.

Quote:Dude, where the hell in ATL are you gaming? Those are the same exact girls saying "I just wanna guy that has something going for himself". Have something going for yourself and those legs spread much easier. Now if you're talking about going through bullshit with LTR, I think finding a girl who isn't jealous, or one that doesn't have trust issues is kinda rare...white or black. A black guy with his shit together slays pussy here. The number of black gay guys is overwhelming, the number of black guys who don't have shit to offer is just as high (and they still kill it in certain areas), the number of black guys without game is up there too. If you have game, style, you're healthy, and have just a little ambition the "niggas aint shit" attitude should be non-issue for you.

Post: #41

Agreed, I think this is more of a class thing than a race one.

I grew up around poor white people. My parents aren't hurting I was middle class, but our house was in a county were most people were living in government homes. Half the kids at my school were on food stamps and most of them were from single family homes. I'd say that a good quarter of them had never even traveled 50 miles away from home.

These white girls basically behaved like the trashy ratchet chicks you'd see on World Star. I remember going to a party where one of them got into a fight and started slamming another girl's head into a car door.

They were fat, gross, and had major attitude problems (Fun fact I wasn't sexually attracted to a single girl I went to high school with). The girls from that group who went on to college and what not ended up being really stuck up and developing a weird attitude and complex.

Once I grew up I pretty much only dated girls outside my own race, I suspect that living around white trash girls had something to do with it. I'm currently seeing a Black Francophile who likes traveling and is actually pretty funny. My last girlfriend was Mexican and in pre-med. these girls are just nice pleasant people who are actually enjoyable to be around.

Those negative connotations about being loud and obnoxious are more socioeconomical than racial. I grew up in a town that was all white and the kids still behaved like ratchets from World Star. Being raised by self centered mom and government check is what breeds that despicable mindset, not skin color.
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Exactly this except I'm black growing up around black girls in the uk in the late 90's.

I never mess with black girls. Far too much attitude for 20 minutes of fun.
I'll date asian and white girls withe the odd spanish or middle eastern girl thrown in.

Dating outside my out race has benefited me greatly in life. My mother knows my children with me mixed, i just gotta pick the girl.

Post: #42

i think this discussion is leaving out so many variables and simply making assumptions because as I've learned in the past year it depends on the background of the black chick AND also the GUY and how he is.

I say this because, I've now possibly messed with all the "major" types of black women...
- High fashion model
- Video Vixen
- Ghetto Fab Hood Chick
- Hottie FOB from caribbean, europe or africa
- Southern Black Girl

One of the funniest things being a BLACK GUY is the fact that I madeout with a real estate agent who declared me being the 1st black guy she's messed with in AGES. (It was the same for me too which was ironic) She was used to the 50 year old rich white guy.

Which brings me to the fact of ME, I've never had any problem with black women because for majority of them I come off as INTRIGUING. There isn't any label/stereotype that can be put on me and as my one friend jokes "I'm the whitest black person" he's ever met because I literally don't follow any form of cultural or stereotypical interests.

That said, the black women I've messed with most look more like...



An chicks I actually know...



Honestly, the MAIN THING i've noticed is the straightforwardness and the fact that if you were a DOMINANT MAN then shit was smooth sailing because I don't think most black women are used to being dominating. Most of the black men are chill laid-back not too social.

I know for a fact it isn't my actual physical looks BUT more about "how I am". It is impossible to tell where I came from and where I grew up because there is nothing that shows I grew up in the worst neighborhood in brooklyn.

P.S...One thing I do notice that I do is sorta frame them as my nubian queen. When it comes to black chicks I exclusively like them dark-skin the skin tone is so hot.

P.S.S...About 2-3 years ago I somehow ended up pulling this black chick with an INSANE ASS. If this was high school she'd be everyones 10. I remember going back to her place and EVERYONE was looking in shock as to how a guy like me could be with a girl like her...In the end, her friend was asking me why I never called her back.

Post: #43

(01-28-2014 12:54 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  i think this discussion is leaving out so many variables and simply making assumptions because as I've learned in the past year it depends on the background of the black chick AND also the GUY and how he is.

I say this because, I've now possibly messed with all the "major" types of black women...
- High fashion model
- Video Vixen
- Ghetto Fab Hood Chick
- Hottie FOB from caribbean, europe or africa
- Southern Black Girl

One of the funniest things being a BLACK GUY is the fact that I madeout with a real estate agent who declared me being the 1st black guy she's messed with in AGES. (It was the same for me too which was ironic) She was used to the 50 year old rich white guy.

Which brings me to the fact of ME, I've never had any problem with black women because for majority of them I come off as INTRIGUING. There isn't any label/stereotype that can be put on me and as my one friend jokes "I'm the whitest black person" he's ever met because I literally don't follow any form of cultural or stereotypical interests.

That said, the black women I've messed with most look more like...



An chicks I actually know...



Honestly, the MAIN THING i've noticed is the straightforwardness and the fact that if you were a DOMINANT MAN then shit was smooth sailing because I don't think most black women are used to being dominating. Most of the black men are chill laid-back not too social.

I know for a fact it isn't my actual physical looks BUT more about "how I am". It is impossible to tell where I came from and where I grew up because there is nothing that shows I grew up in the worst neighborhood in brooklyn.

P.S...One thing I do notice that I do is sorta frame them as my nubian queen. When it comes to black chicks I exclusively like them dark-skin the skin tone is so hot.

P.S.S...About 2-3 years ago I somehow ended up pulling this black chick with an INSANE ASS. If this was high school she'd be everyones 10. I remember going back to her place and EVERYONE was looking in shock as to how a guy like me could be with a girl like her...In the end, her friend was asking me why I never called her back.

Jeez, second pic on the right...

Post: #44

(01-28-2014 01:57 AM)dads Wrote:  

(01-28-2014 12:54 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  i think this discussion is leaving out so many variables and simply making assumptions because as I've learned in the past year it depends on the background of the black chick AND also the GUY and how he is.

I say this because, I've now possibly messed with all the "major" types of black women...
- High fashion model
- Video Vixen
- Ghetto Fab Hood Chick
- Hottie FOB from caribbean, europe or africa
- Southern Black Girl

One of the funniest things being a BLACK GUY is the fact that I madeout with a real estate agent who declared me being the 1st black guy she's messed with in AGES. (It was the same for me too which was ironic) She was used to the 50 year old rich white guy.

Which brings me to the fact of ME, I've never had any problem with black women because for majority of them I come off as INTRIGUING. There isn't any label/stereotype that can be put on me and as my one friend jokes "I'm the whitest black person" he's ever met because I literally don't follow any form of cultural or stereotypical interests.

That said, the black women I've messed with most look more like...



An chicks I actually know...



Honestly, the MAIN THING i've noticed is the straightforwardness and the fact that if you were a DOMINANT MAN then shit was smooth sailing because I don't think most black women are used to being dominating. Most of the black men are chill laid-back not too social.

I know for a fact it isn't my actual physical looks BUT more about "how I am". It is impossible to tell where I came from and where I grew up because there is nothing that shows I grew up in the worst neighborhood in brooklyn.

P.S...One thing I do notice that I do is sorta frame them as my nubian queen. When it comes to black chicks I exclusively like them dark-skin the skin tone is so hot.

P.S.S...About 2-3 years ago I somehow ended up pulling this black chick with an INSANE ASS. If this was high school she'd be everyones 10. I remember going back to her place and EVERYONE was looking in shock as to how a guy like me could be with a girl like her...In the end, her friend was asking me why I never called her back.

Jeez, second pic on the right...

Somalian

Which it's essentially black chicks from african countries who rekindled my attraction for black women. I used to be almost exclusively "eastern euro" bias

Post: #45

I think in America there's two types of black girls: those who are poor and are stereotypical Walmart food stamps ratchet girls, and then the middle-upper class black girls who basically act like white girls from the same socioeconomic level.