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Washington Post comes out firing against me and Matt Forney
It's only on the Style blog, but they insinuate we are on the same level as race lynchers and genocidal maniacs. In fact, we were listed above them:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/styl...ernet-now/

Quote:Roosh V: While Moore has been accused of incidental misogyny, Roosh V — a D.C. native! — has been far more explicit. Valizadeh owns the website ReturnofKings.com, which advocates for gender roles even ’50s housewives would balk at and bans “women and homosexuals” from commenting. Recent articles include the charming “5 Reasons to Date a Girl With an Eating Disorder,” “Don’t Work for a Female Boss” and “Biology Says People on Welfare Should Die.”

Matt Forney: Forney, a blogger and member of the Valizade school, proudly crowned himself the most-hated man on the Internet after his argument “against female self-esteem” went viral last fall. Forney is a professional Internet troll, and has actually published a book to that effect. Publishing blog posts with titles like “Why Fat Girls Don’t Deserve to Be Loved” is, apparently, a profitable enterprise.

Here is the writer of the article:

https://twitter.com/caitlindewey

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Her hair appears to be short.

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You've made your hometown paper! And they hate you. Atta boy, Roosh. Next stop: NYT baby!

Quote:Roosh V: While Moore has been accused of incidental misogyny, Roosh V — a D.C. native! — has been far more explicit. Valizadeh owns the website ReturnofKings.com, which advocates for gender roles even ’50s housewives would balk at and bans “women and homosexuals” from commenting. Recent articles include the charming “5 Reasons to Date a Girl With an Eating Disorder,” “Don’t Work for a Female Boss” and “Biology Says People on Welfare Should Die.”

Matt Forney: Forney, a blogger and member of the Valizadeh school, proudly crowned himself the most-hated man on the Internet after his argument “against female self-esteem” went viral last fall. Forney is a professional Internet troll, and has actually published a book to that effect. Publishing blog posts with titles like “Why Fat Girls Don’t Deserve to Be Loved” is, apparently, a profitable enterprise.

The Valizadeh school! Holy shit, you're a professor. I prefer something like Rooshtech or University of V. I'm saddened that they omitted your most recent masterpiece on short haired women being damaged.
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01-24-2014 01:28 PM
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Damn, ain't WP supposed to be at least a bit conservative? This must be the lone voice in the wilderness ranting at her blog. Or not?

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these are exciting times
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(01-24-2014 01:40 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Damn, ain't WP supposed to be at least a bit conservative? This must be the lone voice in the wilderness ranting at her blog. Or not?

Not really. Arguably they are slightly more conservative than the NYT, but that isn't saying much, and it's more of a feeling than anything else.
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(01-24-2014 01:28 PM)Menace Wrote:  I'm saddened that they omitted your most recent masterpiece on short haired women being damaged.

I think that was Tuthmosis. In any event, we're probably not too far away from the L.A. Times or another major newspaper writing a similar article about Tuthmosis.
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(01-24-2014 01:44 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  
(01-24-2014 01:28 PM)Menace Wrote:  I'm saddened that they omitted your most recent masterpiece on short haired women being damaged.

I think that was Tuthmosis. In any event, we're probably not too far away from the L.A. Times or another major newspaper writing a similar article about Tuthmosis.

Yeah, I know, but they are not likely to distinguish a particular author from the owner...so anything published on ROK will be attributable to Roosh.
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(01-24-2014 01:40 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Damn, ain't WP supposed to be at least a bit conservative? This must be the lone voice in the wilderness ranting at her blog. Or not?

It's the Washington Times that is the conservative paper, and they actually had a 2-part interview with Roosh last year:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/n...american-/
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I find it amusing how outraged the critics are by the "no women and no homosexuals" policy at ROK. It's such a slap in the face to their progressive sensibilities. It's like they can't even process the idea that their two favorite victimized groups aren't welcome somewhere, so they engage in the rhetorical equivalent of curling themselves into a ball and repeating, "Wow. Just wow," over and over.

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It is telling that this bitch puts Roosh at the very top of her "most hated" list even though no one has been more scrupulous in enforcing the most civilized possible standards of discourse on the forum and other sites, never permitting the outing of anyone's identity without consent or incitement to violence of any kind.

She is knowingly and intentionally blurring the difference between the mere expression of dissenting opinion, which is the only thing she is accusing Roosh and Matt Forney of, and the kinds of legally questionable antics that Hunter Moore is charged with (hacking into people's emails to steal and then publish pictures, etc). She wants to lump these completely different things under the same broad category of "hate speech" so she can then agitate under false pretenses for wholesale censorship of opinions she disagrees with:

Quote:Of course, we all know that freedom of speech has its dark side, both on and off the Internet. But the problem with Internet hate, in particular, is that current law doesn’t quite protect against it — cyberstalking statutes are weak, responsibility is hard to prove, law enforcement doesn’t understand it … the list goes on.

Even Hunter Moore, when he was finally arrested, was arrested for hacking and identity theft — offenses that really have nothing to do with the fundamental problems of revenge porn. That doesn’t make his opponents any less happy to see him in jail, of course. But it should serve as warning, too: Other Internet villains are out there, and without stronger laws, they’re just waiting to follow in Moore’s wake.

Note the sleight of hand here: Moore was indeed arrested for hacking and identity theft, but to her this is just incidental -- the real "villains" are those who publish anything that offends her and her ilk. However, she knows that she cannot nakedly argue for banning speech (which is what she really wants to do) so she is making her lust for censorship appear more palatable by suggesting that it is somehow morally related to the protection of legitimate privacy rights.

We shouldn't let her get away with it -- she should be called out as the censorious cunt she is. She is advocating for nothing less than the suppression of opinions that dissent from her own.

As far as her singling out of Roosh and Matt, it is of course a badge of honor for both.

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No to mention the policy is barely enforced or enforceable. (@scorpion)
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Comparing Roosh to the KKK. Am I seeing this wrong? This makes me so angry. I am a few beers in though.
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I'm really confused. I get that she hates the manosphere and everything we stand for. But is she really saying that manosphere writings amount to criminal offenses? I don't see any evidence of libel/slander, incitements to violence or doxxing people.
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Good comment in the WP comment section for the article. This is exactly the right thing to say.

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Sounds like you're advocating for laws against speech that you allege are "hate" speech. Of course you don't come right out and say it, but you insinuate it in your penultimate paragraph. The incredible thing about the Internet is that no one can actually force you to read things you don't agree with. There are plenty of websites (e.g. Jezebel) that post content I find as objectionable as you find the content of say, RooshV, but I'm not going to get all angry about it. They can write and say what they please. I'm just not going to read it and contribute to clicks.

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(01-24-2014 02:15 PM)freshcream Wrote:  Comparing Roosh to the KKK. Am I seeing this wrong? This makes me so angry. I am a few beers in though.

Guys suggesting/imploring women improve themselves is obviously the same as wanting to eradicate a race. Didn't you get the memo?

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"The Roosh School of thought" - the modern day 'So-Crates', inspiring young Platos and Aristotles.

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Even though you are 'white', you really need to play up on your Middle Easterness a bit more. Those progressives won't know how to talk about you. You could slam the WP for being racist! Haha

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Roosh is my ozone layer. If he ever goes down, I'll get blasted with all these ridiculous, hyperbolic accusations. Laugh

   

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Remember how the First Amendment really goes for these people: "free speech until you disagree with me."

I'm Jewish, and I find things like Stormfront and Jew Watch revolting. However, although I don't agree with their speech, I don't believe that anyone should prevent them from saying/writing the things they do, even if they do disgust me.
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Keep investing your money. If hate speech laws ever get passed, you will need to defect to Russia.

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(01-24-2014 01:43 PM)Menace Wrote:  
(01-24-2014 01:40 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Damn, ain't WP supposed to be at least a bit conservative? This must be the lone voice in the wilderness ranting at her blog. Or not?

Not really. Arguably they are slightly more conservative than the NYT, but that isn't saying much, and it's more of a feeling than anything else.

WP is a liberal paper. The Washington Times is DC's conservative paper.
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Well done, Roosh, well done.

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How is this women not practicing hate speech?:

Quote:Caitlin Dewey:

despicable character

the most-hated man

morally bankrupt human being

the Internet’s filthiest filth

the Internet teems with other candidates for most-hated man

a professional Internet troll

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Hate, hate , hate ,hate. I would say Caitlin has more in common with Fred Phelps than does Roosh.

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(01-24-2014 02:49 PM)Teedub Wrote:  Even though you are 'white', you really need to play up on your Middle Easterness a bit more. Those progressives won't know how to talk about you. You could slam the WP for being racist! Haha

I think that's already the case in how they deal with Roosh. He is of Middle Eastern descent (the Caucasoid groups in that part of the world aren't native to Europe, so they aren't considered white in the sense we think of in the western world). That may be one reason why some posts that occasionally deal with the race topic don't lead to charges of racism. If he were of, say, anglo-saxon descent, those posts might possibly get more scrutiny.
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Haha, I found this bit of gold while Googling pictures of Caitlin Dewey. WYB? Fatter




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