Post: #1

http://ideas.time.com/2014/01/13/masculi...an-a-mask/

Well, not quite. But it's surprising to see an article like this in a mainstream outlet.

How long until the media shows some real bravery and gives attention to somebody advocating these sort of views who DOESN'T have a vagina? Women are perpetually the face of the men's rights movement so far, what a joke.

Post: #2

(01-17-2014 09:07 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  http://ideas.time.com/2014/01/13/masculi...an-a-mask/

How long until the media shows some real bravery and gives attention to somebody advocating these sort of views who DOESN'T have a vagina? Women are perpetually the face of the men's rights movement so far, what a joke.

Exactly, a woman should naturally be the expert in defining how the masculine dimension of reality is and should be. No conflict of interest there.

Post: #3

The saddest thing about this documentary is the realization that we now need to cite researches to make statements like "guys don't like problem talk".

Post: #4

Quote:Are school shooters and mass murderers born out of an aggressive emphasis on masculinity in our society? The trailer for filmmaker and feminist activist Jennifer Siebel Newsom’s new documentary, The Mask You Live In, would have us think so.

The recently released trailer has attracted 1 million views on YouTube. It argues that American boys are captive to a rigid and harmful social code of masculinity. From the earliest age, they are told to “Be a man!” “Don’t cry!” “Stop with the emotion!” and “Man up!” This “guy code” suppresses their humanity, excites their drive for dominance and renders many of them dangerous. The trailer features adolescent men describing their isolation, despair and thoughts of suicide, artfully interspersed with terrifying images of school shooters and mass murderers.

This is so fucking stupid, I don't even know where to begin. This is nauseating blue pill shit to suggest that a Stiff Upper Lip/Suck it Up ethos perpetuates mass shootings.

I'll tell you what perpetuates mass shootings: boys/men that are just not able to successfully connect to other people in meaningful ways, men that have extreme trouble making solid connections with other people, be it for friendships or dating relationships. Mass shooters are almost always socially isolated/socially disconnected awkward young men. They are almost always the most omega of men, unable to get laid in a whorehouse with a fistful of Benjamin Franklins. It's not always 100 percent the reason, but another thing I would say almost all mass shooters have in common is sexual frustration. The Virginia Tech shooter, the guy that shot up the Batman screening in Colorado...no guy is going to go shoot up a theater or a mall food court if he's getting laid on a regular basis. Men that are getting a regular supply of pussy are not going to give that up to shoot strangers. If we legalized prostitution and refused to release personal identifying details of the shooters to deny them their moment of infamy to discourage copycats, we'd solve the problem of mass shootings without having to abridge or infringe on the second amendment.

Post: #5

That psycho who killed all those kids in CT, killed his Mother first. The same crazy Mother that would try and bond with him by taking him to the shooting range.

Seems to me, poor quality, modern day Mothers are to blame for raising psychopaths.

Post: #6

(01-18-2014 12:17 AM)Onto Wrote:  That psycho who killed all those kids in CT, killed his Mother first. The same crazy Mother that would try and bond with him by taking him to the shooting range.

Seems to me, poor quality, modern day Mothers are to blame for raising psychopaths.

How many of the shooters came from broken (or never built) homes?

Post: #7

How long until the media shows some real bravery and gives attention to somebody advocating these sort of views who DOESN'T have a vagina? Women are perpetually the face of the men's rights movement so far, what a joke.

Virtually all the writers who write about masculinity for mainstream publications are female. But the reason for that is that it falls under the category of "gender issues," which has always been a predominantly female field.

That field, like politics itself, has a left-right divide. The news here is they've given the megaphone to someone on the right, Christina Hoff Summers. Usually it's only lefties like Hannah Rosin that get the soapbox in mainstream publications.

Other female writers who skew right include Wendy Schalit, Helen Smith, and Suzanne Venker.

So while it might seem odd that women are writing about some of the ideas pioneered in the manosphere, if you look at who is in this field historically it makes sense.

To change this, men would need a writer to do for "gender issues" what Erin Andrews or someone like that did for sportscasting. The closest we're coming now is a comedian like Adam Carolla, whose book "In 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks" brought up some important issues. There is also Glenn Sacks, a very smart and articulate father's rights advocate who I interviewed for a mainstream venue (and got skewered by a feminist for even including him in an article).

The good news is that the influence of mainstream media is far, far less than it was even ten years ago. And book deals don't net you much money unless you're a big writer. So the manosphere, if it keeps going, may prove more influential in the end.

...that is, if the Democrats don't find a way to silence it by redefining it as hate speech with their new study.