Post: #26

Why do you care what your roommate, or anyone who hasn't earned your respect, thinks?

Hopefully you never room with a male feminist. He will make you think having a dick and using it with more than one person in your entire life is amoral.

Post: #27

Your roomate may throw you under the bus one of these days. In his opinion your are being the bad guy for how you treat women. Every white knight wants to save a woman from the bad guy.

Post: #28

Quote:"if you have a woman and you lie to her to fuck her, thinking its OK to lie to her, you are treating her with low standards AKA second class citizen"

As soon I read that, I can tell this dudes a bitter white knight fag who can't get any and/or male feminist. Tread carefully around him, he isn't to be trusted. I typically keep my views to myself, unless they are brought up in a debate. My words of debate are specifically designed for women to show value, have them admit what they really want and create a connection (close).

I wouldn't tell him anymore, let him wallow in his hate and self-pity as you bring in girls. If he acts up or tries to sabotage you, make sure to put him in his place. There is no helping this one, he needs to figure it out on his own or be a simp the rest of his life.

Post: #29

To me, the only morality issue is if you're deliberately lying to women.

Pure FACTUAL honesty isn't necessarily a good thing. However, I have nothing but revulsion for those who do shit like Mark Manson allegedly did.

Post: #30

I dont see why people sweat so much about lying, given that we live in a society of lies.

Everybody lies and manipulates, from infant to old politicians.

You ever notice how babies can cry like they are about to die with rivers of tears streaming down, then another second you give them some treat and they are laughing like they just watched Ted?

Joking aside, everybody lies.

Parents lie to children: Santa Clauss is a lie. "Be nice with women and you will find a great girl" is a lie.
Teachers lie to children, children to teacher.
Advertising is all lies. Buy our products and you get this and that.
Women lie to men AND other women. I dont need to go on about that.
Business lie to clients. Clients scam business.
US democracy is a lie. Your freedom is a lie.

Dont be a saint in world of sin.The game itself has no morals. It only has principles. Decide what is important for you. Fuck the rest.

Post: #31

I haven't yet met a player that gets laid by using 100% truth.

Come on. People lie not only to each other but THEMSELVES every day.

These internal lies can be more fundamental and damaging than the ego damage that comes as a result of telling a chick you're looking for a pet store.

Post: #32

Emotional honesty, not factual honesty. That being said, don't show your entire hand at one time.

Post: #33

How does sleeping with a woman (while applying good game) affect her in the long run? In what ways did they change because of your efforts?

Post: #34

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That's too much of an open ended question. It's highly specific.

You sleep with a girl for long enough and you find yourself taking that masculine role and guiding her life. Women and people, but especially women are malleable. You effect people in ways that you might not even think about. But through the natural order of things you guide them or move them in certain directions.

You need to know yourself well and have a good fundamental understanding with your relationships with the world and how you belong and what you drive. How you shake and move and what you want and how you are to really answer that.

For example you do a girl dirty and lie to her and promise a Disney fairytale or white picket fence when you just want to fuck her that's on you. And she's gonna be fucked up cuz of you. That's okay and all it's just how the world works.

The general idea is to leave people bettet than you found them: women included. The game is brutal though because life is brutal. If you're struggling with morality i suggest you read some philosophy.

Post: #35

I've read philosophy. In Aristotle's ethics, it says that pleasure only creates happiness if that pleasure comes upon completing work, for example, if you finish a long and difficult book, then you feel good about it. If you game a girl, and mold her well in the process, then that's a form of work that you should be happy about. Other questions arise from this approach though.

Post: #36

So that leaves you with the age old question; do the ends justify the means. In the end it's up to you to decide that.

Post: #37

Sex is inherently a good thing, game is good, and both of those are the means. The better question is how to increase the odds of the end result being good. Ultimately, women have the freedom to mess themselves up no matter how good you or your game are, so as long as you do your part to help her improve, then any possible resulting damage done to herself is her responsibility, and it probably would have been worse without you. LTR's seem to be the way to go with this goal.

This kind of thing is a great concern to me: nothing's more important than your conscience. Thanks for the insight, Eugenics.

Post: #38

It is better to not have morals or a conscious, when it comes to sleeping with women. You do what you have to do to get the poosy. If the poosy is what you want, get at it. Other people on here have said it over and over: if it is not you, it will be some one else.

So why let it be some one else? Let it be you.