Post: #1

For the guys who weren't always good at women but made a conscious choice to get good with women (or just naturally developed over the years), how did you do it? I know the fundamental requirement is talking to lots and lots of women. But aside from that, any techniques you used to quicken the process? Anything in particular you did to maximize the efficiency of your learning process? Anything you did outside of talking to girls that might have helped ie. a workshop/bootcamp/product, or even just an activity you picked up.

Post: #2

oh yeah - how long did it take for you to get to the level you were happy with, and where did you start out from?

Post: #3

Like Roosh mentioned work on yourself first.
I got into shape, I had a incident where a girl grabbed my arms and commented I needed to work out. I had a few similar incidents, so I just made the change.
Now I get girls grabbing me and are very touchy with me, the rest is history.

Post: #4

Make your self as good as possible (wisdom,health,knowledge) and with your confidence form a mastermind alliance with another guy who is at the same level or has higher status than you and get quickly into groups of hot female women. From then and on you can meet more hotties through your female friends easier.The whole point here is to find the guy who will help you with your needs and help him with his needs so that both of you can move on easier when there are problems in life

Post: #5

Working on your looks is definitely something you should consider. Work on your game as well, get rejected, approach as much as you can. Also try reading other guy's game style, you might pick up a thing or two that you can incorporate and make your own.

Post: #6

I was good in college, getting laid regularly, of course now I wonder if I could've got laid even more... I digress, I got in a 4 year LTR that began during my final 2 years in college and was fine with it because I figured I'd marry this girl. When we broke up, I was lost, and struggled with confidence for whatever reason, unless I was drunk. I chanced upon this site from an unrelated message board, and read through everything, thinking I got it... but I didn't. After having a girl in bed twice, and somehow not banging her (a true low), I bought Roosh's book and poured through it cover to cover. I quickly realized some very basic mistakes I had been making, and when I went out the next weekend I got a SNL. Within a month I was juggling three girls, nearly getting my hat trick, ie - three different girls in three nights.

The most important things to me were:

1. Going out frequently, or using day game to get your target number of approaches.
- The more you approaches, the more comfortable you get, the more success you'll have.
- Set a daily or weekly target and stick to it.

2. Not blowing it because you make a dumb mistake.
- You can say a lot of stupid shit to a girl, just don't say the wrong thing and she won't care.
- I asked a girl I had already banged won't her boyfriend care, and this is a big no-no, but I was trying to get rid of her. Her response was she knew what she was doing... oh well.
- Stay away from relationships, feelings, and for God's sake don't ever tell a girl you like them.

3. I let perceived obstacles stop me.
- Here's an example: I went over to a house party (very late) and there were only five people left, my target, another girl and three guys/obstacles (who I did not expect to be there). I calmly kept the girls drinking to keep them horny, got on the guys good side then told two of them how it was getting real late and hinted they should leave, and sent the third guy off to bang one of the girls while I got my target. Eyes on the prize.

4. I wasn't going into borderline creep mode before.
- Now I'm more blunt, and don't care if the girl thinks I'm a perv.
- If she's DTF she'll appreciate how confident you are, and if she's not, you're wasting your time.

Hope that helps.

Post: #7

I was really bad in high school with girls due to being somewhat shy with girls and deathly afraid of rejection. Id get pigeonholed in the friend zone even though I was considered good looking. When i got to college I made the decision to be more aggressive with girls so to never get stuck in that situation again.

Sometimes a change of scenery can help alot. With reference to my high school years I was seen a certain way in that location so it was difficult to break the mold and I was always fighting an uphill battle. When I remade my image in college I was again seen in a certain way thus making it much easier to get laid.

Post: #8

finding something that works for u. not all people r made equal to all methods. i tried nightgame for 2 years and still not that good at it. i've had more dates/day 2s in daygame the last 5 months than in 2 years of club/bar game.

some guys r social circle masters.

so basically, try everything.

Post: #9

Not that I'm a master don juan myself by any means, but my suggestion would be start with inner game. I think David DeAngelo has the best inner game material out there.

Post: #10

I'm going through some rough patches right now but that isnt a bad thing. Hell i have made a ton of mistakes in the past couple weeks that i sure as hell will not make again. One particular day last week i was really down int he dumps. At that time i had struck out badly with three different chicks three days in a row. So there i was all alone friday night and i go to read roosh's blog where i stumbled upon a post where he talked about how we really only grow when we things dont go our ways. You have to sit down and analyze what you are doing that is not netting you the results that you are looking for. I did that and i feel better about what has happened. I stopped looking at them as failures and took them as learning experiences. Hell atleast i was actually trying to bang chicks ey?