A dear friend of a dear friend of mine just knocked up a girl on a ONS about a year ago. He didn't even hear about til after the kid was born. He's being taken to court for $2k in child support each month. Jesus can you imagine. He might not even like or know this girl. It makes me sick that a rando girl would do this to him.

Ive never had rawdoggin fears on ONS, because why the fuck would they want a kid from someone they've known for 2 hours? Its scares me way more with regular girls who could be getting emotionally attached. This totally rattles my brain and has struck fear in me.

The only possible explanation is he had a gf the past 6 months that is a warpig, he was dating several points down. I have a feeling this other girl was really bad too, maybe mid-30s, and figured she'd get the best genes possible and a check every month.

What a selfish and horrible thing to do to someone.

This is actually pretty common. Chick gets pregnant, doesn't tell the biological father (even if she knows who it is), has the kid, and the way he finds out is getting served with papers. Some will tell the guy they're pregnant and they're keeping it, so then he knows what's coming. If you catch a childless woman in her 30s, the odds go up that she'll keep the kid because she's running out of time and opportunity. That's why I always advocate that guys wrap up when banging randoms, because you just don't know her or what she'll do if she ends up pregnant.

And then you get women who deliberately go out and get pregnant and never tell the inseminator, never even his keep his contact details.

Did he pull out?

You better have a second passport because your passport can get pulled for back child support.

What city did they hook up in? Was she religious?

2k just for child support sounds like a lot. She must be not working and he must be earning a lot. He's basically paying for her expenses.

Which brings me to ask Roosh - what was your mindset rawdogging girls on ONS? Weren't you concerned about stds and pregnancy? I've read most of Roosh's blog, and I don't remember many details about that subject. Except when he was in South America, he wouldn't fear blasting into girls because they thought he was poor. An article on raw dogging and all the psychology behind it would be interesting.

Tell him to: TAKE A DNA TEST OF THE BABY.

Obviously the chick has been having one night stands, and therefore 25 other guys could be the dad. She could have just decided to pin it on him because of his wealth/looks.

(01-12-2014 06:01 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  A dear friend of a dear friend of mine just knocked up a girl on a ONS about a year ago. He didn't even hear about til after the kid was born. He's being taken to court for $2k in child support each month. Jesus can you imagine. He might not even like or know this girl. It makes me sick that a rando girl would do this to him.

Ive never had rawdoggin fears on ONS, because why the fuck would they want a kid from someone they've known for 2 hours? Its scares me way more with regular girls who could be getting emotionally attached. This totally rattles my brain and has struck fear in me.

The only possible explanation is he had a gf the past 6 months that is a warpig, he was dating several points down. I have a feeling this other girl was really bad too, maybe mid-30s, and figured she'd get the best genes possible and a check every month.

What a selfish and horrible thing to do to someone.

Welcome to why I had a vasectomy. Plus getting to tell a pair of surgeons (the attending and senior surgical resident) I knew from my previous line of work "You know....I don't normally let people do this until after they buy me dinner." while they were handling my junk at the pre-op appointment was priceless. If you can make a 30+ year veteran surgeon turn bright red and leave the room laughing you have accomplished something....

Even with that....I still wrap it up.

My pops took a trip a Costa Rica few years back to get a vasectomy, paid $800 no complications at all. I'll be taking a trip soon and get that out of the way myself.

I am not advocating "deadbeat dad" but if you plan to rawdog a random, you need to give fake names and not make as much trackable information to the chick. You may need secondary cell numbers and whatnot but do not allow the chick enough info to track you down.

(01-12-2014 07:38 PM)Jackreacher Wrote:  My pops took a trip a Costa Rica few years back to get a vasectomy, paid $800 no complications at all. I'll be taking a trip soon and get that out of the way myself.

My insurance covered most of mine here in the US. I think I have less than $600 out of pocket.

(01-12-2014 07:55 PM)internationalscientist45 Wrote:  

(01-12-2014 07:38 PM)Jackreacher Wrote:  My pops took a trip a Costa Rica few years back to get a vasectomy, paid $800 no complications at all. I'll be taking a trip soon and get that out of the way myself.

My insurance covered most of mine here in the US. I think I have less than $600 out of pocket.

I think that's what he paid. I know he had it in Costa Rica though. Every procedure worth having is a fraction of what it costs here, it's great.

(01-12-2014 08:16 PM)Jackreacher Wrote:  

(01-12-2014 07:55 PM)internationalscientist45 Wrote:  

(01-12-2014 07:38 PM)Jackreacher Wrote:  My pops took a trip a Costa Rica few years back to get a vasectomy, paid $800 no complications at all. I'll be taking a trip soon and get that out of the way myself.

My insurance covered most of mine here in the US. I think I have less than $600 out of pocket.

I think that's what he paid. I know he had it in Costa Rica though. Every procedure worth having is a fraction of what it costs here, it's great.

Yeah, but Costa Rica is one of the few foreign countries (outside of western Europe) that you hear as a "tourist medicine" destination I would consider having elective surgery in.

When I rawdog random girls I have the self control to pull out(girls I know are another story) but burner app, fake name, and fake back story for guys who don't.

Not sure if this will help, but here's what a buddy and I used to do:

Back when myspace was the place to get laid, we had fake pages, filled to the brim with crazy, creepy-ass details, that made us look like dirt bag freaks. "I'm not gay, but my boyfriend is.", enjoying a 'cold one' after a day working at the morgue, favourite books = rape stuff, etc. Just whatever sick shit we could think of. Of course we had fake names, but holy shit, the amount of trim we got from those fucked up accounts was insane.

Another thing we would do, was to go out "hoggin' " at nearby shitty bars, basically trying to see who could get the best (worst?) fat chick.
Beforehand we would work out foreign accents and names, and backstories as to why we are at a shit bar. We would practice our accents and names by going to the home depot and asking for shit as foreigners. We would use our "foreigner" acts when picking up regular girls too.
We were roommates in a gated apartment complex, so it was easy not worrying about girls coming back unless we wanted them too.

Just some stuff used to do back in the day, hope it gives you some ideas on how to elude crazy pussy. What girl wants anyone to see the fucked up myspace page of a guy she slept with, or who is going to try to get back at some foreigner jerks. I am not sure how any of this will help, but there it is.

This makes me wonder what kind of evidence is required to force a paternity test if you say you have no idea who the girl is.

For example, if she doesnt have your name or your address, and just "thinks you look like the guy who came inside her", is that sufficient? They can't serve you with papers if they dont know your name.

Unfortunate for me I have a really nice place that I leverage for my bangs.

(01-12-2014 08:16 PM)Jackreacher Wrote:  

(01-12-2014 07:55 PM)internationalscientist45 Wrote:  

(01-12-2014 07:38 PM)Jackreacher Wrote:  My pops took a trip a Costa Rica few years back to get a vasectomy, paid $800 no complications at all. I'll be taking a trip soon and get that out of the way myself.

My insurance covered most of mine here in the US. I think I have less than $600 out of pocket.

I think that's what he paid. I know he had it in Costa Rica though. Every procedure worth having is a fraction of what it costs here, it's great.

You dont need to leave the US for a vasectomy. I paid 900 for a non scapel (you want that one as its the least invasive) in cash.

Does the court just take her word for it that he is the father? How exactly does that work?

Unless your buddy is pulling some serious serious cash she will not get 2k for 1 kid no matter what her situation is.

I just did a calculator myself and it takes $8500 net a month, girl making nothing and having to pay $1000 a month in daycare to get to owing $2k a month.

I doubt he's making that much, but I have no idea what child care costs. Depends on the state too.

I understand why the payments are based on your income, but there should be an upper limit. There comes a point when the basics should covered, and no more should be stolen. Maybe $1000 a month.

Ugh Im worried already thinking about my last rawdogs.

(01-12-2014 10:34 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  I just did a calculator myself and it takes $8500 net a month, girl making nothing and having to pay $1000 a month in daycare to get to owing $2k a month.

I doubt he's making that much, but I have no idea what child care costs. Depends on the state too.

I assume your buddy has gotten a lawyer involved, to force a paternity test and also to get that $2k/month number down. Do let us know how it turns out. $2k is a huge number for child support.

CA has a child support estimator on their .gov webpage. I did it last year and plugged in $100k for salary. Estimate was $1.5k/month. There's a lot of factors in the calculation.

I had a good female friend tell me to be VERY careful on the girls I bring back to my place. The new trend is that these girls in their 30's or so who have had a few abortions in their past unexpectantly (or intentionally) get pregnant and realize this is their last chance to have a kid and will keep it. Her GF did it and she followed suit a few months later.