No, no race troll here. If you didn't want a variety of opinions on the issue you shouldn't have posted the thread.

You just said that black people are bad tippers. How is that not race trolling?

I don't know, because it's a valid answer to the issue at hand?

I'll tell you what, let's change it to liberals are bad tippers.

(12-27-2013 10:07 AM)soup Wrote:  Two of the most famous rich people in America tipping a dollar per drink on Xmas is just cheap. With a minuscule fraction of their wealth, even I am a little more generous on the holidays.

Just saying that these are people that are looked up to the world over, and, not that they have to be angels all the time, but they come off as bigger assholes than I already thought they were.

This isn't a call for socialism, but a return to a culture that has some semblance of class.

Didn't Jay-Z say, "you can go to school, but you can't buy class?"

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-25835.html

Sorry, black people are -- on average -- worse tippers than any other race.

I don't care about either of these people, but from a business standpoint, they get rich because people who don't really have money go to their concerts, buy their albums, etc.

If no one invested money into their products, they would be nobodies.

Tipping goes a long way in the service business, it not only gets you better service, but you often get more than what you paid for.

It's unbecoming to have money, but a broke mentality.

Why do people get a tip for doing their job? Funny--I work 7:00 am to usually 5-6pm. I don't get tips for doing good work--I am expected to always do good work. Same thing with the people who work for minimum wage at McDonald's --they don't get tips either (and usually do a good job).

Tipping is just another way for corporations to externalize costs onto their patrons, especially at high end hipster bars and restaurants. Under federal law, tips can be included in an employee's compensation calculation so that restaurant owners do not have to pay the full stated minimum hourly rate.

If some pretentious strumpet asks for my ID (I am 26 and usually in a suit)-- I tell her that just like her company, which has a policy of checking ID's, I have a policy of not tipping servers when asked to show my ID.

If she insists and guests are present, I will oblige and quip that at my age I take it as a compliment. Then, when the check comes she gets a goose egg with a sentence explaining to her that I don't show my ID to anyone.

Sawyer 3 day ban for race incitement.

I met Jay-Z at the 40/40 Club in NYC. He has huge banana hands.

(12-27-2013 01:19 PM)scotian Wrote:  I prefer the tipping culture of North America because it usually leads to better service, I almost went insane last night in Colombia because of shitty wait staff.

Tipping makes service worse

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15...63887.html

I believe soup said they were incognito...

so is it possible that they were tipping the normal amount not to get everyone all ampted up?

(12-27-2013 08:31 PM)Mr. Butterworth Wrote:  I believe soup said they were incognito...

so is it possible that they were tipping the normal amount not to get everyone all ampted up?

Yeah, but everyone knew who they were. My friend said Beyonce gave him a He's a really good dancer. They left when the DJ started playing their music.

(12-27-2013 04:12 PM)soup Wrote:  You just said that black people are bad tippers. How is that not race trolling?

In his defense, we are. I won't tip anyone besides a bartender.

Brazilians and Arabs are the absolute worst tippers on the planet. Worse than Indians, Chinese, and Jews even. Europeans are generally bad, too: especially Germans, Russians, and Greeks. English, Danes, Italians, and French are generally good. American blacks, especially the ghetto variety, are generally bad unless you stand-up to them and show them you have balls. I've gotten tipped fat a few times from some black cats, but most of the time, they don't tip whites. I've called them out on it, too, which has made for some hilarious moments. If they pull the racist card, I tell them I'm Bulgarian and that my people were far more oppressed than theirs and that they should stop being such shitty human beings. I got a $100 tip from some Chinese from Chongqing surprisingly on Christmas day, so there are exceptions of course. I 'made' their vacation they said. I went above and beyond to entertain, transport, and ensure their safety. I had a billionaire a few weeks ago with a net worth of 4 billion and he only tipped $20. I had him for 2 hours. When you come to the U.S. and don't conform to the set standards of tipping 20%, you deserve to get your head beaten in. I stand by that statement 100%.

Bit off topic, but I think tipping should be abolished. Yes, I realize that would raise restaurant/bar prices but here are the benefits:

1. No awkwardness (apologize for the use of this word) as to how much you should tip, separate bills etc.

2. Higher-priced restaurant meals would force many people to eat/cook at home, thereby putting a dent in obesity. At the least, it wouldnt hurt.

(12-27-2013 10:58 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  Bit off topic, but I think tipping should be abolished. Yes, I realize that would raise restaurant/bar prices but here are the benefits:

1. No awkwardness (apologize for the use of this word) as to how much you should tip, separate bills etc.

2. Higher-priced restaurant meals would force many people to eat/cook at home, thereby putting a dent in obesity. At the least, it wouldnt hurt.

Abolishing tips isn't very American in the sense that we live in a high stakes gamble.

A bartender will often see great fluctuations in their income based on how the night goes.

They can make hundreds of dollars on some nights and almost nothing on others. A really good bartender knows how to milk the customers.

The tip forces the server to bring it. The only time no tip is left is if the server is really awful. But, at that point, I'd rather talk to the manager because I'd feel uncomfortable not leaving any tip.

Taking the tip out would could make servers less personable with customers, and most of the reason why people go out to drink is for the social experience (otherwise they'd just drink at home). Going to restaurant or bar isn't going to an office. The vibe is everything.

Tips also allow people to show off by leaving a lot of money.

Great f'ing post, soup. Nothing to add to that.

Tipping is just another example of the entitlement/welfare establishment in America and the spread of Cultural Marxism...

TIPPING...WHEN PEOPLE EXPECT TO GET PAID A LOT TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS THEIR JOB.

Tipping is one of the worst cultural exports of the US.




Before I could go to Mexico City Airport and the baggage handlers would be happy to handle my luggage (with their dollies), one could tip them 5 pesos and they would be happy.

Now I got to Mex City Airport or Monterrey's bus terminal the baggage handlers provide horrible customer service and complain when you tip them 10 pesos for two bags, they expect 5....dollars.

Those farts throw one's luggage off when they are paid ~1 dollar for 10 minutes of work.

(12-28-2013 12:09 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Tipping is just another example of the entitlement/welfare establishment in America and the spread of Cultural Marxism...

TIPPING...WHEN PEOPLE EXPECT TO GET PAID A LOT TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS THEIR JOB.

Tipping is one of the worst cultural exports of the US.




Before I could go to Mexico City Airport and the baggage handlers would be happy to handle my luggage (with their dollies), one could tip them 5 pesos and they would be happy.

Now I got to Mex City Airport or Monterrey's bus terminal the baggage handlers provide horrible customer service and complain when you tip them 10 pesos for two bags, they expect 5....dollars.

Those farts throw one's luggage off when they are paid ~1 dollar for 10 minutes of work.

Bartenders and waiters get paid almost nothing and rely completely on tips. Some of them don't get paid at all.

If it weren't for bars, there would be no safe public spaces to get a girl drunk in.

if there were no tips bartenders and waiters wouldnt get paid nothing because the owner would have to pay them

(12-27-2013 09:50 PM)Ubietza Wrote:  Brazilians and Arabs are the absolute worst tippers on the planet. Worse than Indians, Chinese, and Jews even. Europeans are generally bad, too: especially Germans, Russians, and Greeks. English, Danes, Italians, and French are generally good. American blacks, especially the ghetto variety, are generally bad unless you stand-up to them and show them you have balls. I've gotten tipped fat a few times from some black cats, but most of the time, they don't tip whites. I've called them out on it, too, which has made for some hilarious moments. If they pull the racist card, I tell them I'm Bulgarian and that my people were far more oppressed than theirs and that they should stop being such shitty human beings. I got a $100 tip from some Chinese from Chongqing surprisingly on Christmas day, so there are exceptions of course. I 'made' their vacation they said. I went above and beyond to entertain, transport, and ensure their safety. I had a billionaire a few weeks ago with a net worth of 4 billion and he only tipped $20. I had him for 2 hours. When you come to the U.S. and don't conform to the set standards of tipping 20%, you deserve to get your head beaten in. I stand by that statement 100%.

When I was a server, foreigners got the benefit of the doubt because I knew that I would be rewarded in another way, shape, or form.

In the US, servers and bartenders are essentially unpaid by their "employers" as they rely on the 20%+ tips to survive.

I always tip 20-40% depending how good my service is in North America, but it's around 10% for any sort of full-service restaurant if I'm sitting at a table overseas.

What I do not get however are luggage people at airports depending fat ass tips for essentially such little work. What is their salary situation like?

(12-28-2013 01:59 AM)yb13 Wrote:  In the US, servers and bartenders are essentially unpaid by their "employers" as they rely on the 20%+ tips to survive.

But that's just it. Why should customers have to participate in the arbitrary service known as tipping simply because the restaurant owners are too fucking irresponsible to pay their waitstaff a living wage?

(12-28-2013 01:45 AM)CThunder86 Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 09:50 PM)Ubietza Wrote:  Brazilians and Arabs are the absolute worst tippers on the planet. Worse than Indians, Chinese, and Jews even. Europeans are generally bad, too: especially Germans, Russians, and Greeks. English, Danes, Italians, and French are generally good. American blacks, especially the ghetto variety, are generally bad unless you stand-up to them and show them you have balls. I've gotten tipped fat a few times from some black cats, but most of the time, they don't tip whites. I've called them out on it, too, which has made for some hilarious moments. If they pull the racist card, I tell them I'm Bulgarian and that my people were far more oppressed than theirs and that they should stop being such shitty human beings. I got a $100 tip from some Chinese from Chongqing surprisingly on Christmas day, so there are exceptions of course. I 'made' their vacation they said. I went above and beyond to entertain, transport, and ensure their safety. I had a billionaire a few weeks ago with a net worth of 4 billion and he only tipped $20. I had him for 2 hours. When you come to the U.S. and don't conform to the set standards of tipping 20%, you deserve to get your head beaten in. I stand by that statement 100%.

Strike a nerve, did I? I guess you've never worked for gratuities. Simply my observations of various ethnicities and their tipping habits in Vegas.

Most rappers tip like shit to be honest, or don't tip at all. Same with a good number of musicians in general. Movie stars typically tip good though. Athletes can be hit or miss.

For those saying they don't know why they should tip a bartender, not sure if I should take you serious. One reason is because they make $4.5 an hour. If tips existed or not in the states, you'd still be paying for it. If bartenders weren't getting tipped then they restaurants/bars would have to pay them more. Therefore you'd be getting charged more. Tipping is playboy 101. If you aren't tipping, I know for sure the bartender isn't giving you any love. It also makes a girls panties wet when they see you have an in with the bartender and you drink all night for $30. In the long run, it really ends up working out to your advantage if you tip well. You'll end up paying less for the drinks if you frequent the place. Anyone who doesn't tip in America really needs to step up their going out game.

Regarding the argument on black people tipping bad, there really is no arguement to be had. Black people generally tip like shit and anyone who works in the service industry and deal with black people on the reg will tell you the same. It's not racist, it's just true and there's no doubt about it. I actually had to start telling one of my black friends that I wouldn't share bills with him anymore because I was sick of picking up his part of the tip. Really. We were at the bar and the bartender asked if wed like out check together or seperate. He said together and I said, "nope, separate." And told him why. I think it got to him, because after that he started tipping. Not well, but it was an improvement from nothing.

Someone said Brazilians tip like shit. I'd say the contrary. I have friends that agree. To get tipped well from Brazilians you have to bring you're "A" game service. They'll definitely throw some big money around. They were my second best tipping demographic in Miami after Middle Aged white men.

My experience with Jews is actually quite positive. They generally tip better than most other types of people.

The worst tippers are: Asian, African Americans, and any country that speaks a Germanic or Scandinavian language. They Germanics and Scandinavians won't tip more than $2 if their life depended on it. It cracks me up because I know in some of these countries a coke a cola is near $4. Really? You're not even gonna tip me enough for a soda?

Whether you like it or not, tipping is part of American culture, and a lot of times your service will depend on it. The other day I loaded a shit ton of bags in my car for an ausi, who tipped me $2 before the ride. Once I got him to where he was going, I just dumped the bags on the sidewalk and made him fend for himself. If he would have thrown me a $10 or 20 he would have had help getting those bags where they needed to go. Why would I spend a half hour helping the dude for $2 when I could go back and likely make $10-20 dollars in that half hour? It just doesn't make sense. Would you work for $4 an hour? I tell you what, I bet that son of a bitch tips the next guy well that handles his bags, cause I'm sure they weren't fun to deal with. And I'm pretty sure he caught what was going on.