Post: #1

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10...4214209866

You can't make this stuff up.

Highlights:

""It's become best practice," Mr. Van Grinsven says, noting that parents can influence their children's career decisions. Some Northwestern Mutual managers call or send notes to parents when interns achieve their sales goals and let parents come along to interviews and hear details of job offers. They may even visit parents at home."

What's wild is that we're actually behind the curve on this as a country:

"The study, which surveyed 44,000 people from more than 20 countries, found that just 6% of recent college graduates surveyed in the U.S. wanted their parents to receive a copy of their offer letters. That's well below the global average of 13% and much less than some other countries, where it was as high as 30%. The study also found that just 2% of young employees in the U.S. want their parents to receive a copy of their performance review, compared with the global average of 8%."

....sigh

Post: #2

Jesus fucking Christ!

Post: #3

Are the parents going to do the job for them too?

I recently shared an article on Twitter that explains how this type of helicopter parenting is causing harm:

Quote:In 2000, psychologist Jeffrey Arnett coined the term “emerging adulthood” to describe extended adolescence that delays adulthood.* People in their 20s no longer view themselves as adults. There are various plausible reasons for this, including longer life spans, helicopter parenting, and fewer high paying jobs that allow new college grads to be financially independent at a young age.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and...oblem.html

Post: #4

I have nothing against getting advice from parents when it comes to interview strategies, salary negotiations, reviewing offer letters and contracts. I wish my parents were able to help me avoid some of the mistakes I made when I was younger. However, I am against bringing parents to job interviews or any contact between parents and employers. If I was hiring, I would be suspicious if a candidate's parents contacted me. That person would become a low priority candidate regardless of their skills and credentials.

Post: #5

I can't quite put my finger on it, but for some reason, this disgusts me.

My parents are the last people I would want to come with me to a job interview.

When I was 16, my dad waited in a parking lot for two hours, while I interviewed for a summer job at a location that I needed a ride to (didn't get my DL until 17). My family thought that this was normal.

We all would have found it weird to have my dad in the interview with me. My parents have always been very supportive in certain ways, but when it was time to sell myself for a job, that was completely my responsibility.

And yes, I got the job that summer.

Post: #6

Looks like it's going to be a generation of strong, independent, young.... Hmm....

Post: #7

Lets make it easy for our future FIAT/Chinese/Muslim overlords.

   

Post: #8

(12-24-2013 01:09 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  Lets make it easy for our future FIAT/Chinese/Muslim overlords.

   

Post: #9

This can't be a real thing, all these people are living with their parents, soo... they want their parents to see them proactively trying to get out of the house? or something right?

I mean shit, my parents used to visit me at my jobs, but it wasn't to check up on me or something, it was just to hang out and shoot the shit.

Post: #10

It's all part of America's extended peacetime syndrome. A society enduring an exaggeratedly extended peacetime becomes infantilized.

This will lead the Chinese and others to think we have become soft and weak, something they're already arguing in their military journals and the like. So one day they'll believe it enough to actually be tempted to test us.

Which will be very, very stupid on their part. There is a terrible strength lurking just under the surface of America's peacetime childhood, which is more like the baby-face of an elite athlete who looks soft and stupid in his very temporary retirement.

The wannabe Chinese overlords won't know what the fuck hit them. And in the process some good sense will be restored here at home.

Post: #11

Quote:It may be on the rise, but parental involvement in the U.S. doesn't begin to match countries in Asia and South America, according to a 2013 study from the global accountancy firm PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP.

Too bad they don't mention specific countries... Could this mean China is ahead of us on this one?
In a way it kind of makes sense that they would be, there is a lot of pressure there for male children to provide for their parents no?

Post: #12

^^^ In most cases I've seen, it's more traditional in Asian and SA countries for the females to stay at home until she finds a suitor, not the male. He's still expected to go out and make a living.

I know some childhood acquaintances that are moving back in with the folks. They're a bit younger than me. I simply can't fathom this decision.

There are jobs out there, lots of jobs. There's thousand on craigslist, not to mention countless recruiting websites. The problem here is not lack of jobs. They're not the jobs that they can use their BA in but they're jobs regardless. They might not be "good" jobs, but I still believe in the notion that you don't acquire the skill set needed to hustle in life until you've worked a lot of shit jobs for years. I got dishwashers that make a few hundred a week just from running sports bets. I got a dishwasher that started running food and now he takes home an extra $500 per week, cash, on top of his hourly rate. These are guys with no education whatsoever, no student loans, no debt. They paid a coyote a few grand to come over here and now they've got a comfy existence. It's work that any moron could do, but these guys only fell into it because they took the bottom rung and pulled themselves up. That concept seems to be lost on millenials.

There seems to be this "spoon-feeding" notion. A linear progression of going to school, graduating, getting a job with a good salary. It might have been that way in the past and it might still be that way for certain trades (engineering) but IMO to make it these days you need to figure out a hustle. Get into an industry and look for the gaps, the oversights, the nooks and crannies where you can exploit. I know what they are in my trade. I know they exist in construction and contracting work.

I'm guessing that most kids out of a liberal arts program are too booksmart to even know what I'm talking about.

Post: #13

Chinese (PRC) kids are some of the most spoiled I've come across. Many have two parents plus four grandparents all to themselves and doting on them.

I've seen old ladies carting perfectly able bodied kids around on their backs. The children in question were more than old enough to walk themselves.

The Chinese American parents I know do push their kids academically, but they are also extremely overprotective. They cannot fathom that my parents "let" me travel to 3rd world countries when I was college age.

I don't think they are given much chance to develop street smarts.