Post: #1

I caught this on the news recently and it really touched a nerve. The People's Republic of Ontario has seen fit to introduce legislation that requires the province's barbers to undergo training and certification as "hairstylists" (at the barber's own expense, of course), including learning to administer all of the requisite services that go along with the title (perms, highlights, etc.) and offering them to the public. Non-compliance results in fines to both the individual barber, and the proprietor.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ont...-1.2326264


The traditional barber shop is one of the few places remaining where men can reliably go to be almost exclusively among other men, and be unashamedly male while doing so. The shop I have had the privilege of going to for a number of years has been staffed by the same four Greek barbers for decades. Now well into their 60's, they have been cutting hair professionally since they were in their teens, are the funniest, most ingratiating bunch of guys one could hope to encounter and founts of some often profound bits of wisdom gained through their many years of experience. All are consummate professionals well-versed in the old-fashioned art of customer service and skilled at their trade. Their shop acts as a sanctuary of sorts for the men of the neighbourhood. There is always a soccer match on the tv that, invariably, evokes heated debate among barbers and customers alike. It's a great atmosphere and having such an establishment to go to makes having a haircut something I look forward to. These men are more than a utility, they are craftsmen who take pride in their work. A dying breed already, it pains me that asinine regulations such as this will likely thin their numbers even further and hasten encroachment into yet another traditional male space.

Post: #2

Really disgusting and hypocritical. Why should any business be forced to provide a service just to not be gender-exclusive?

Next they're going to require all gynecologists to also become urologists at their own expense... oh wait.

Post: #3

Which fucktard started this stuff? I avoid "hairstylists" mainly visited by women, because they can't do a good male hair-cut.

Post: #4

Fucking ridiculous.

Are female stylists being required to learn how to shave with a straight razor?

Post: #5

Can't you charge differently by service provided? So like ten dollars for a short back and sides but 6grand for long hair?

Post: #6

Thanks to this thing. I faintly recall a thread on this.

   

"When might a gift certificate for a free men’s haircut not be honoured?

In one case, when the customer is a woman.

Armed with a voucher for a free haircut she won in a silent auction at the end of June, 38-year-old Lyla Miklos went into the Westdale Barber Shop Wednesday afternoon. She had just finished work at Westdale Secondary School.
She took a seat in the King Street West shop, pulled out a book and waited for her turn. The barber, who was cutting another customer’s hair, asked how he could help her.

Miklos, who identifies as a queer, feminist and a labour activist, was shocked when he told her the shop is for men only.

“Even if I want to get a men’s cut? You’re joking, right?” she asked the barber.

“Emotionally, I was very angry and slightly hurt,” she said, noting she’s had short hair her entire adult life and has been to other barbershops in the area.

“I didn’t want to cut her hair,” said Phil Angemi, who’s owned the Westdale Barber Shop for the past 12 years. “That’s my reason.”

Angemi said men come from Welland, Toronto and Ottawa to get their hair cut at his shop, and they anticipate a women-free atmosphere. He said it’s partly about tradition.

“The shop’s been (open) since at least the ’40s. I seriously don’t think it’s good for business if I do a woman’s haircut here.”

It’s also about time, he said, noting his shop runs on a first-come, first-served basis, and men might not want to wait for women to have their hair cut.

“It is more time-consuming,” said Angemi, who worked in a hair salon cutting both women’s and men’s hair for three years.

Miklos, in an effort to prevent the same hurt and embarrassment she felt, has contacted the Westdale BIA, Councillor Brian McHattie and MPP Ted McMeekin.

She says she’s also in the midst of filing a complaint with the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal.

“There’s a barber out there who really needs some sensitivity,” she said, adding she’d like an apology and for the barber to undergo anti-oppression training. She also suggested he could offer free haircuts to women in need or make a donation to a sexual assault centre.

Angemi says he has told other women who have come into the shop that he won’t cut their hair.

“It’s just the business, that’s all it is,” he said.

“I said to have the people call me who gave her the gift certificate to make sure she was taken care of because there was obviously some sort of misunderstanding as far as what a barbershop means.”

Sean Gibson, president of the Ontario Barber Association, said “As an association, we don’t condone such behaviour.”

Gibson took the province to the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario for what he believes is discrimination for failing to include instruction in how to cut a black man’s hair in its curriculum for hairstylists.

Each claim submitted under the Ontario Human Rights Code is examined on a case-by-case basis, looking at the particulars of the situation, such as whether it involves other aspects like race or religion as well as whether the discrimination can be proven, said a representative from the Human Rights Legal Support Centre who could not be named as an official spokesperson.

Charles Lugosi, a Brantford lawyer and law professor, said if a person was denied service outright, based on gender alone, it could be classified as discrimination under the code.

But it’s not that simple.

He said the situation can vary depending on whether it was “an honest misunderstanding” or whether someone was “discriminating because of hate.”

http://metronews.ca/news/hamilton/756588...rbershop/#

Post: #7

It dosn't help that our Premier is also a dyked out Queer herself:


^ Premier Wynne and her womyn

They both play on the same team. They know what the score is..

In regards to the lady whom pressed a Human Rights charge, she's a cunt. She should of gone to to the hood and ask for a taper and they would of hooked her right up.

Feminists whom are all fat white suburban whales seem to ignore the fact that Black Barber shops, even if the clientèle is 99% male, have been open to cutting women's hair for decades now. As long as you can point to the wall, or tell the barber a cut he can *and wands to* do he won't give a shit. If you come in their asking for fancy shit he will laugh at you and say go to a salon... man or woman.

This women wanted some fancy shit, if she even wanted a cut at all. She looks like she cuts her own hair in the dark, and this guy could smell her trolling from a mile away. Also, as a private business owner he had every right to refuse service to her. Now he was not slick in saying it was because she was a chick... that's where he fucked up... but he did not have to provide her any more reason that he did not have the tools for her her hair and send her on her way.

But of course that man-cunt would never go to a Black barbershop, the amount of testosterone and colour in there would of been to much for her and her warped gender-warped mind could handle.

They are supposedly getting a lot of heat from this banana law. But with two women essentially running this Province in a minority atmosphere anything can get passed.

Our Lesbian Premier with a minority Government is so scared of a election she will shill to anything and anybody to maintain Government. Billions in cash is being swirled around to help buy off ridings, just last week she sank $300 million as a carrot to Cisco to come set-up a operation here which would create 1,700 jobs. Jobs are great, but not when they are subsidized by the taxpayer at a average of 175K per job if you do the paper scratch math since the 300$ million was the only way Cisco was going to come here. It also does not help that early that same week, a Heinz manufacturing plant closed down laying of close to a thousand blue collar workers whom were making a honest and good wage. Heinz isn't sexy like Cisco is but it employed people and fed famliles and did not cost taxpayers 300$ million in carrot money to keep around.

Post: #8

Ridiculous, but respect to whoever got this Miklos thing a gift certificate to a men's only barbershop.

I mean, obviously the back story is made up and she got the gift card for herself so she could bask in glorious oppression. But maybe there's a .1% chance the person who bought it was genuinely confused and just thought she was an ugly dude who needed a gym membership, contacts and a high and tight.

Post: #9

Ontario has joined Quebec as the worst run large province in the dominion. The Dyke, her corrupt predecessor, and their lackeys have done a great job helping Ontario join the honorary club of rust belt states.

In Ontario there's this entrenched mentality at the electorate level that only government can create jobs.

For example subsidies paid by taxpayers for complete banana projects like the Green Energy Act.

Lest not forget the politically motivated gas plant cancellation, the Ornge Air Ambulance scandal, eHealth scandal, Slush fund scandal, eco-fee fiasco, the HST tax grab - "this tax is revenue neutral" bullshit, I can go on and on.

I'd rather have crackhead mayor Rob Ford as premier of Ontario than this corrupt gang of idiots that's ran the province into the ground in the least decade.

Post: #10

(12-16-2013 11:05 AM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  Thanks to this thing. I faintly recall a thread on this.









http://metronews.ca/news/hamilton/756588...rbershop/#

I would happily break that cunt's neck with my bare hands.

Post: #11

I'm gonna put a thong on and see if I can get a membership at Curves.

I wonder if they will let me?

Post: #12

Female-only gyms?

Please someone file a human rights case against them.

Post: #13

This is clear case of feminist medling. Dear canada: get hold of your women. They are out of control.

Again, how can it be sexist if gender doesn't exist an we are all the same?

Obviously giving perms is for women, but don't feminists want man hair cuts?

They are just trying to make it difficult for the barbers and put them out of business because they don't like that the barbers are old school men.

Post: #14

(12-16-2013 12:25 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  Ontario has joined Quebec as the worst run large province in the dominion. The Dyke, her corrupt predecessor, and their lackeys have done a great job helping Ontario join the honorary club of rust belt states.

In Ontario there's this entrenched mentality at the electorate level that only government can create jobs.

For example subsidies paid by taxpayers for complete banana projects like the Green Energy Act.

Lest not forget the politically motivated gas plant cancellation, the Ornge Air Ambulance scandal, eHealth scandal, Slush fund scandal, eco-fee fiasco, the HST tax grab - "this tax is revenue neutral" bullshit, I can go on and on.

I'd rather have crackhead mayor Rob Ford as premier of Ontario than this corrupt gang of idiots that's ran the province into the ground in the least decade.

All it needs it 1 Mike Harris term to right the ship again.

Post: #15

Go a hair stylist and demand a straight razor shave, dirty jokes and football match commentaries.

Post: #16

There was a familiar story in Toronto last year about a Muslim barber who refused to cut a woman's hair, it was a big hairy deal for the politically correct crowd, who's feelings matter most, the dyke or the ethnic minority dude? Ezra Levant's view on the issue was spot on,

Quote:So a lesbian walks into a Muslim barbershop, and asks for a “businessmen’s haircut”.

It sounds like the beginning of a joke, but it really happened, and now a government agency called the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario will hear her complaint.

Faith McGregor is the lesbian who doesn’t like the girly cuts that they do at a salon. She wants the boy’s hairdo.

Omar Mahrouk is the owner of the Terminal Barber Shop in Toronto. He follows Shariah law, so he thinks women have cooties. As Mahrouk and the other barbers there say, they don’t believe in touching women other than their own wives.

But that’s what multiculturalism and unlimited immigration from illiberal countries means. A central pillar of many immigrant cultures is the second-class citizenship of women and gays.

So if we now believe in multiculturalism, and that our Canadian culture of tolerance isn’t any better than the Shariah culture of sex crimes and gender apartheid, who are we to complain when Omar Mahrouk takes us up on our promise that he can continue to practise his culture — lesbian haircuts be damned?

He’s not the one who passed the Multiculturalism Act, and invited in hundreds of thousands of immigrants with medieval attitudes towards women and gays and Jews, etc. We did.

Mahrouk’s view is illiberal. But in Canada we believe in property rights and freedom of association — and in this case, freedom of religion, too.

But McGregor ran to the Human Rights Tribunal and demanded that Mahrouk give her a haircut.

In the past, human rights commissions have been a great ally to gay activists. Because, traditionally, gay activists have complained against Christians. And white Christians are the one ethnic identity group that human rights commissions don’t value, and that multiculturalism doesn’t include.

In recent years, Canadian human rights commissions have weighed a complaint about a women’s-only health club that refused a pre-operative transsexual male who wanted to change in the locker rooms.

They’ve ordered bed and breakfasts owned by Christian families to take in gay couples. They’ve censored pastors and priests who have criticized gay marriage. Gays win, because it’s a test of who is most outraged and offended.

But in the case of the Muslim barbers, the gay activists have met their match. If the test is who can be the most offended or most politically correct, a lesbian’s just not going to cut it.

Oh, McGregor is politically correct. But just not politically correct enough. It’s like poker.

A white, Christian male has the lowest hand — it’s like he’s got just one high card, maybe an ace. So almost everyone trumps him.

A white woman is just a bit higher — like a pair of twos. Enough to beat a white man, but not much more.

A gay man is like having two pairs in poker.

A gay woman — a lesbian like McGregor — is like having three of a kind.

A black lesbian is a full house — pretty tough to beat.

Unless she’s also in a wheelchair, which means she’s pretty much a straight flush.

The only person who could trump that would be a royal flush. If the late Sammy Davis Jr. — who was black, Jewish and half-blind — were to convert to Islam and discover he was 1/64th Aboriginal.

So which is a better hand: A lesbian who wants a haircut or a Muslim who doesn’t want to give it to her?

I’m betting on Mahrouk. And I predict that Muslim activists — not quiet barbers like Mahrouk, but professional Muslim busybodies — will start using human rights commissions more and more to push their way into places where they have no legal right, but where the human rights commissions are more than happy to engineer things for them, if they complain loud enough.

If I were a gay activist, I’d probably want to declare victory and shut down these human rights commissions right now.

In five years time, it won’t be gay activists forcing themselves into Christian B&Bs. It’ll be Muslim activists vetoing the gay pride parade.

Post: #17

All this at a time when mens barbershops are experiencing a boom in Vancouver. Go in for a cut, sip on a whiskey, talk motorcycles and pussy and just generally be comfortable.

I would love to see my barber be told he has to become a stylist. 6'3" 250 pounds of angry bearded male in sensitivity training and how to mix hair dye to get a nice ombre.

Post: #18

And when people get fed up with this bullshit and vote for an even slightly more conservative option (like in Australia), they'll decry it as "return of fascism" and "some people shouldn't be allowed to vote".

Post: #19

There is an easy solution. Ontario barbers should cut women's hair...poorly.

Post: #20

(12-16-2013 02:02 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  And when people get fed up with this bullshit and vote for an even slightly more conservative option (like in Australia), they'll decry it as "return of fascism" and "some people shouldn't be allowed to vote".

The conservative party in Canada is in power because they have support of minorities in the country. The latest polls indicate the conservatives have a 10% lead over liberals from minority voters.

There's a really interesting article on this phenomenon:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-deb...e15552302/

Stephen Harper or Rob Ford wouldn't be in power if it weren't for the bedrock of conservative districts of the GTA, which are also majority immigrants from non-European countries.

suits Wrote:There is an easy solution. Ontario barbers should cut women's hair...poorly.

Not sure if the solution is more ugly ass dyke haircuts. One Kathryn Wynne is enough.

Post: #21

I think Ontario needs more immigrants from conservative, traditional countries to out vote the left-leaning liberal nut jobs that populate the southern part of that province.

Post: #22

This is an act of pure malice. Like some straight up grinch shit.

Post: #23

This is the logical and inevitable endgame of leftism... Even the person who cuts your goddamn hair has to be licensed to do so by the government. Your tax dollars at works, folks... Your tax dollars at work.

Post: #24

Fuck! Just counting my days til I'm out of here.

Post: #25

I just talked to my barber, who was in Toronto a few days ago.

Its an oversight from the Ontario Beauty Board (or some government organization like that). It wont be enforced, it wont be payed attention to, and no one cares.

Sounds like the industry there is going strong as well. Places are booked days in advance.

I love barbershops. My guy has pictures of military planes and playboy centrefolds from the 1970's on the wall. I had three glasses of bourbon and he told me how much he loves his visits to Toronto due to the amount of ass he gets.