Post: #1

met this girl in Dubai while i was on vacation...she was british.we were in a exhibition..i was taking pics of me and she came to me and ask if i can take her photos as well...so i took some photos of her by her own camera...she was glad.

after some while i saw her at another place of exhibition..then here is the conversation.

Me: so do you need more photos of you?

Her: lol,no i got tired of shoping now.

Me: nice.
Her: so where you from?
me: American..and you?
Her: im british...here on vacation.
Me:you have friends here?
Her: yeah just two of them..they are not with me..they are on work.
Her: why you are here?
Me: on some business tour..and you?
Her:oh i see,well i work in communication.
Me:good.
Her:can i leave for shopping now?

Me:. yeah sure,i also have to leave my friends are waiting...do you have facebook acount?

Her: I dont have facebook......

Me: Email?

Her: I dont think so i can give you my email.

Me:..ah okay..bye.

her: .....(walks away)

what went wrong ???????????????

Post: #2

Maybe she is just a bitch. Move on?

Post: #3

Rule of thumb that I use religiously when travelling and even at home: not even bother with girls from english speaking countries and instead go for the tourists/locals, depending on where you may be.

Post: #4

Too direct. It sounded like a professional conversation.

You have facebook? Fail, too personal and desperate.

Try again. G'luck

Post: #5

Is it just me or was that hard to follow? anyways from what i understood, it seemed like a boring conversation. It is like you were using text message game when you should have been using day game.

Post: #6

(11-28-2010 12:30 PM)mrnice Wrote:  Me: so do you need more photos of you?

Her: lol,no i got tired of shoping now.

???

(11-28-2010 12:30 PM)mrnice Wrote:  what went wrong ???????????????

here are some possible reasons:
1. you didn't go direct
2. you went indirect but didn't build enough value
3. girls asking you to take a photo of them is a frame that puts them in a better position and in a way is a subtle putdown. you can play this out by taking the camera and pretend it doesn't work when pointing it at her but takes pictures fine when you point it at something else.
4. you tried to close without her showing solid interest
5. she's british

Post: #7

I think your opening was not that strong. Do you have enough pics? Lame...do you really care. She said she was tired of shopping. Could have been a sublte hint, plus you got the additional info that her friends are at work. So let us assume she was a bit bored. Your response could have been I am going for a drink, care to join me?

She is British - which means she is easy and loves to drink. Your convo may have come across as too hungry etc.

Not too worry, WE have all made these mistakes.

Post: #8

From the looks of it, it wasn't something you necessarily said that screwed things up, it was most likely HOW you said what you said.

Roosh or many of the other skilled guys in this forum could have said the exact same lines, but could have taking the interaction MUCH further. This is because much of how a set initially pans out has to do with your general vibe (general confidence, being relax, non-threatening, solid vocal tone, body language, etc. etc. etc.) They normally make a decision of you within the first 10 seconds, where the content of what you say plays a small role.

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Post: #9

No vibe established

Zero

None

Post: #10

@ Mr. Nice,

If I can tell you one thing that would be to........

" Wait for the girl to show interest before you show Interst in her "

Of course it's not as simple..

Specifics : when you open a girl, be ready with a follow up line and for the Sake of Game less or no questions

1. Opener is for breaking the Ice nothing more nothing less

2. Follow up is to do a normal conversation.

Try step 1 and 2 with out asking any questions for 2-3 min meaning have a normal conversation for 2-3 min and you will see if a girl is intersted or closes the conversation and leaves.

Review you approach and see how many questions you asked, too many ? Asking a question is you showing too much interest which is what you want her to Do , Yes... you want her to ask you questions, more questions she asks about you, more she rationalizes that she likes you

3. DHV or change / throw intersting things about you that will lead her to ask questions .

As soon as she asks you a question that is when you can go into where are u fom, name, number etc.

My Friend just go ahead and buy Bang , I do not want to take the credit away from Roosh as most of what I just wrote have been compiled after reading this blog for a long time and attending roosh's workshop.

Post: #11

(11-28-2010 12:30 PM)mrnice Wrote:  she was british

in dubai

Post: #12

though I admit your approach was somehow "weak" at the end of the day she is just not interested, let her go

speaking of dubai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG3bgTDWYOM

Post: #13

(11-28-2010 01:27 PM)exe Wrote:  

(11-28-2010 12:30 PM)mrnice Wrote:  Me: so do you need more photos of you?

Her: lol,no i got tired of shoping now.

???

(11-28-2010 12:30 PM)mrnice Wrote:  what went wrong ???????????????

here are some possible reasons:
1. you didn't go direct
2. you went indirect but didn't build enough value
3. girls asking you to take a photo of them is a frame that puts them in a better position and in a way is a subtle putdown. you can play this out by taking the camera and pretend it doesn't work when pointing it at her but takes pictures fine when you point it at something else.
4. you tried to close without her showing solid interest
5. she's british

I like that one. I just take the camera turn it around on myself, smile real big and take a pic haha