Post: #1

The intense hate that has followed the now infamous 5 reasons to date a girl with an eating disorder article on ROK has brought to the surface the extent of privileged white girls unhappiness.

This idea has been brought up somewhat in the all hells broken loose on return of kings thread but I wanted to focus in on this idea in its own thread.

Please share your opinions on why you think privileged white girls today are so unhappy.

Post: #2

The spoiled child cries first.

Post: #3

(11-20-2013 10:40 AM)bacon Wrote:  Please share your opinions on why you think privileged white girls today are so unhappy.

Because I swoop almost exclusively Latinas and EE girls.

Post: #4

(11-20-2013 10:43 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  The spoiled child cries first.

Good point. Never having to struggle or face real adversity usually makes people emotionally weak and generally unappreciative of what they have in life.

Post: #5

They are so unhappy because the process of becoming affluent, leisurely, and privileged have two effects: first, affluent and privileged humans no longer feel compelled by external circumstances to serve any larger purpose (such as God, the state, etc.); second, as a result of this, they become utterly and completely selfish -- obsessing over their looks, status, material possessions, and other fleeting aspects of life. They lose any sense of honor or self-sacrifice for something larger than themselves, which is an essential ingredient in being truly happy (or self-actualized, to use Maslow's word).

I think back on the wealthy people I've known, and they were far more likely to obsess over inane things like whether their cabinets were "up to date" or their yard was as well-manicured as the one next door. Their lives were so comfortable and easy that it made them miserable. Affluent women in particular are more likely to fall prey to these attitudes.

Gregg Easterbrook's book The Progress Paradox documents this phenomenon. The more wealthy and leisurely the culture becomes, the more the happiness of the population drops as measured by psychologists' happiness surveys. We live in the wealthiest, most privileged society in world history, so it is no surprise that we are seeing the extremes of these effects.

Post: #6

(11-20-2013 10:40 AM)bacon Wrote:  Please share your opinions on why you think privileged white girls today are so unhappy.

Because they've been brought up to believe that they can be strong, independent and 'special' women with opinions of their own, can be career girls and still have kids and be good mothers all at the same time. Apart from the fact that they've bought into a lie, men find all of it utterly unattractive, and to top it off they've now got competition from other species, such as cows, because they never learnt how to dress or behave.

Boom...

Post: #7

(11-20-2013 10:51 AM)Consul Wrote:  They are so unhappy because the process of becoming affluent, leisurely, and privileged have two effects: first, affluent and privileged humans no longer feel compelled by external circumstances to serve any larger purpose (such as god, the state, etc.); second, as a result of this, they become utterly and completely selfish -- obsessing over their looks, status, material possessions, and other trivial aspects of life. They lose any sense of honor or self-sacrifice for something larger than themselves, which is an essential ingredient in being truly happy (or self-actualized, to use Maslow's word).

I think back on the wealthy people I've known, and they were far more likely to obsess over inane things like whether their cabinets were "up to date" or as good as their neighbors', because their lives were too comfortable and easy. Affluent women in particular are more likely to fall prey to these attitudes.

Gregg Easterbrook's book The Progress Paradox documents this phenomenon. The more wealthy and leisurely the culture becomes, the more the happiness of the population drops as measured by psychologists' happiness surveys. We live in the wealthiest, most privileged society in world history, so it is no surprise that we are seeing the extremes of these effects.

The irony is, humans define themselves by their struggles. The cardinal lesson in the Matrix and the Bible.

Self actualization occurs when you start taking up side hobbies like learning an instrument, a language, mastery of some random subject.

Most of these unhappy people are doing nothing but consuming. They watch TV (but never created a film), the eat fine foods (but can't cook it themselves), they listen to music (but have no idea how to create, read, and product it), and they drive nice cars (but know nothing about how it runs).

You need to create something, either at your job, and in your hobbies to keep you sane. When humans stagnate mentally, the same energies that used to power learning in school gets turned inward. That energy will eat you alive.

The biggest (hidden) leason of the manosphere I've picked up is the pursuit of continuous knowledge. You have to keep always learning in the mental, emotional, and physical realms while understanding what a vice (women, drugs, alcohol, food) looks like. The real treasure is the wisdom one gets when he screws up. This is what self actualization looks like.

Post: #8

At some point, white women began convincing themselves they were victims because of patriarchy. There were some good photos around, but I am too lazy to find them, like one of a white woman telling a black man to check his privilidge.

Post: #9

Privileged usually equals educated. The root and apex of modern education is an abiding hatred of Western Civilization. These girls are just doing what all good girls try to do: what they are told.

Post: #10

Ennui: a feeling of listlessness and dissatisfaction arising from a lack of occupation or excitement.
synonyms: boredom, tedium, listlessness, lethargy, lassitude, languor, weariness, enervation; More

Post: #11

They have been sold a lie, a very different lie though.

We were sold the lie that they are special and should be pedestalized

They were sold the belief that they could "have it all" the bad boy player will eventually commit to them and that they can also have their stellar careers.

Then they hit 30 and boom. They realize the men only wanted them for sex and nothing more.

Western culture is real interesting. The guys who get laid have 0 interest in getting married, the guys who don't get laid support the egos of western women.

You'll find that the guys who don't get laid are actually looking for that "high confidence woman" or "the one".

Vicious cycle.

Post: #12

Consul and frenchie pretty much nailed it.

But to put it more simply, a lot of people who don't have any difficulties in life go out of their way to create them.

Without some kind of struggle, life has no meaning. This is why so many people desperately cling to some type of victim status these days: it gives them a feeling of identity and purpose.

Post: #13

Probably because they have had everything handed to them.

It'a like how when we play a video game and use a cheat code for infinite money. It's fun for a while but it quickly becomes dull.

Post: #14

(11-20-2013 10:47 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 10:40 AM)bacon Wrote:  Please share your opinions on why you think privileged white girls today are so unhappy.

Because I swoop almost exclusively Latinas and EE girls.

I did hear something on the news that there was a shortage of gmanifesto loving in the US.

On a serious note, ever notice how often these chicks say they are bored? They don't challenge themselves because the potential of failure would crush their fragile egos. Yet, they are bored and rather than address it themselves they want to be entertained. Check Craigslist ads every now and then, see how bored some chicks are wanna text with someone, but never meet lol.

In that fastlane millionaire book the guy mentions how society tells everyone they deserve the best - though they have never earned it. It makes people nuts thinking they deserve everything without having earned it.

Talk to someone who is a millionaire (self made) and talk to someone who is not and ask them how they would spend that money. You are gonna get two distinct answers. One knows the struggle to get it the other has no idea what it takes.

Post: #15

Beta as fuck dads, thirsty as fuck herbs and a consumer driven culture that capitalizes on their every desire.
The ancients are facepalming at how their pitiful descendants failed to heed the warnings. "You did what, and you allowed them to vote?"

Post: #16

Because spoiled white girls have everything handed to them except a nice thin body.
They have to work for that and that pisses them off.

Post: #17

(11-20-2013 12:16 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  Beta as fuck dads,

They grow up being a princess......then reality sets in.......then the race to the wall.

Post: #18

Because they've been sold an unattainable, unrealistic bill of goods.

Post: #19

It's because black girls, muslim girls and 3rd world girls call them 'privileged' instead of joining them in a pan-racial, socio-economically inclusive feminist struggle.

This hurts their feelings. Makes them sad.

Post: #20

Hear the battle cry of the privileged, "strong", "independent", white woman:

Post: #21

(11-20-2013 10:51 AM)Consul Wrote:  They are so unhappy because the process of becoming affluent, leisurely, and privileged have two effects: first, affluent and privileged humans no longer feel compelled by external circumstances to serve any larger purpose (such as God, the state, etc.); second, as a result of this, they become utterly and completely selfish -- obsessing over their looks, status, material possessions, and other fleeting aspects of life. They lose any sense of honor or self-sacrifice for something larger than themselves, which is an essential ingredient in being truly happy (or self-actualized, to use Maslow's word).

I think back on the wealthy people I've known, and they were far more likely to obsess over inane things like whether their cabinets were "up to date" or their yard was as well-manicured as the one next door. Their lives were so comfortable and easy that it made them miserable. Affluent women in particular are more likely to fall prey to these attitudes.

Gregg Easterbrook's book The Progress Paradox documents this phenomenon. The more wealthy and leisurely the culture becomes, the more the happiness of the population drops as measured by psychologists' happiness surveys. We live in the wealthiest, most privileged society in world history, so it is no surprise that we are seeing the extremes of these effects.

I cosign this 100%. Consider the following personal anecdote:

I've lived all over L.A. for the past 13 years. On average, I move once a year, usually for work. I don't see myself moving from my current spot anytime soon as I really love it here.

My last apartment was in West Hollywood. It was an extremely affluent neighborhood less than a block away from Sunset Blvd. I still work over there. In West Hollywood, houses are landscaped and manicured to a T. Everything is physically very beautiful. BMWs and Mercedes are probably the two most common cars on the road. The grocery store options are Whole Foods (not really west hollywood but close enough) Trader Joe's, Gelson's (a very upscale market) and Pavillion's. Especially with Whole Foods and Gelson's, the people that shop there are without fail in some sort of hurry and seem pretty miserable. On weekends, West Hollywood thrives when the gay bars go apeshit and the party spills into the street, unleashing a horde of gay partygoers to puke in the street, get in fights, make out in back alleys and god knows what else. Scratch that, it's not just weekends, it's pretty much every day. They party like college kids who got their first taste of liquor. Almost every. single. day. There are huge amounts of women that are only too happy to join in these binge drinking habits. Children are scarce and when you do see them it's usually in a stroller being pushed by a Mexican or Central American nanny. People drive extremely aggressively and noone is particularly friendly.

Now let's contrast that to my new neighborhood. I moved here back in February or March. It's in a Mexican working class neighborhood. A few blocks south of here things get a little rough, but not that bad. I'd say my current neighborhood is about 50% latino, 30% asian, and 20% white. Lawns are not manicured. There are some delapidated buildings with piles of crap in the front lawn. There are some nice old buildings that need a little TLC but they've got character. There's a lot of minivans and trucks, being driven by Mexican contractors and construction workers. The main grocery store is Ralph's. As soon as I started shopping there, I was SHOCKED at how polite and nice everyone was. The checkout cashiers are genuinely friendly. There are groups of people in the store chatting and there's a much more relaxed vibe. There are many times I go there and I'm the only white person. On weekends, families get together and throw massive parties and barbecues. They hire live Mariachi bands and rent out entire sections of the nearby park. There are kids EVERYWHERE, being tended to by their own parents. People are dressed "normally", and everywhere you look there are husbands with their wives, boyfriends with their girlfriends, holding hands, being affectionate in public. There are no women with short, multicolored hair. I'm not trying to say they're attractive (they're mostly fat), but there isn't this incessant need to "be different" or "stand out". There's isn't the same desperate desire to showcase some manufactured individuality.

I feel at home in my own neighborhood, and English isn't even the first language here. I feel more at home around these people than around white people on the west side. There's this mantra in L.A. of "being yourself" and it's anything but true. People feel the need to express their identity through cutting edge-fashion and trendy hairstyles, which only reinforces their lack of identity. It's only when you get to the middle and lower income areas that you find people really "being themselves".

Post: #22

(11-20-2013 10:51 AM)Consul Wrote:  They are so unhappy because the process of becoming affluent, leisurely, and privileged have two effects: first, affluent and privileged humans no longer feel compelled by external circumstances to serve any larger purpose (such as God, the state, etc.); second, as a result of this, they become utterly and completely selfish -- obsessing over their looks, status, material possessions, and other fleeting aspects of life. They lose any sense of honor or self-sacrifice for something larger than themselves, which is an essential ingredient in being truly happy (or self-actualized, to use Maslow's word).

I think back on the wealthy people I've known, and they were far more likely to obsess over inane things like whether their cabinets were "up to date" or their yard was as well-manicured as the one next door. Their lives were so comfortable and easy that it made them miserable. Affluent women in particular are more likely to fall prey to these attitudes.

Gregg Easterbrook's book The Progress Paradox documents this phenomenon. The more wealthy and leisurely the culture becomes, the more the happiness of the population drops as measured by psychologists' happiness surveys. We live in the wealthiest, most privileged society in world history, so it is no surprise that we are seeing the extremes of these effects.

Nothing to add to this except that you bloody damn nailed it. That was almost poetic.

Post: #23

thedude3737,

Solid post.

I think there is a misunderstanding that people grow up with. Everyone is told they are "special." Actually, everyone is unique (yes like a snowflake), no one is exactly like another person. But not everyone is special, there are some that do stand out and make a contribution to the world. But most, driven by the belief that they are "special" desperately try to make sure everyone knows how special they are.

And we should check kids names before putting their names on birth certificates. I don't mean just spelling, but like choices - like naming kids after Hitler http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31...1046.html, and tweaking traditional spellings.

One thing that always puts me on "guard" is a chick with a crazy spelled or random name. Especially when you find out they chose that for themselves. But if they didn't, you know that their parents blew sunshine up their ass.

America is not #1 in much any more, but we are the best in the world in fucking up our kids.

Post: #24

(11-20-2013 01:24 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  Everyone is told they are "special." Actually, everyone is unique (yes like a snowflake), no one is exactly like another person.

Here's a demotivator on that:

Post: #25

One very basic reason is that the human brain evolved to help humans maximize their status within the social group, which takes a lot of psychological effort. It's why we have such big brains that take lots of time to develop and let's of resources to keep alive.

When you make someone's life incredibly cushy and consequence free, the brain has to find something else to do. It starts focusing on insignificant things and spinning those things into major drama. In the absence of actual hardship, the human brain starts toamufacture psychological hardship.

As a parallel, one of the theories as to why there are so many food allergies these days is that kids are growing up in overly sterilized environments. The immune system has nothing to do, so it starts attacking benign substances, like peanuts.

Bottom line: you don't do your kids any favors when you coddle and shelter them from every bad thing that might possibly happen.