Post: #1

There is some justice in the world after all perhaps

http://t.foxsports.msn.com/nascar/woman-...ping-papis

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Post: #3

I guess that gives new meaning to the "HOW CAN SHE SLAP?" meme.

Post: #4

Ehm, that's stupid. She shouldn't be charged 2.5k for slapping nor be banned. FFS. Neither should any man, of course.
Why does everybody need to call authorities for every non-issue? heh.

Papis should lobby for having her un-banned and the fee dropped. In a perfect world that is.

But no. Nowadays we think like little bitches. "Boohoo. She hit me. I am happy she's banned!"

Come on.

Really.

Post: #5

(09-05-2013 02:37 AM)muc Wrote:  

Ehm, that's stupid. She shouldn't be charged 2.5k for slapping nor be banned. FFS. Neither should any man, of course.
Why does everybody need to call authorities for every non-issue? heh.

Papis should lobby for having her un-banned and the fee dropped. In a perfect world that is.

But no. Nowadays we think like little bitches. "Boohoo. She hit me. I am happy she's banned!"

Come on.

Really.

Unfortunately these are the laws/system women have voted into place.

Either use it to protect yourself/against them, or just get walked all over.

Post: #6

(09-05-2013 03:21 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Unfortunately these are the laws/system women have voted into place.

Either use it to protect yourself/against them, or just get walked all over.

No. Be the change you want to see in the world.

Post: #7

(09-05-2013 03:30 AM)muc Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:21 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Unfortunately these are the laws/system women have voted into place.

Either use it to protect yourself/against them, or just get walked all over.

No. Be the change you want to see in the world.

So just let women go around and slap men and do nothing about it?

Post: #8

(09-05-2013 03:33 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  So just let women go around and slap men and do nothing about it?

You want to be real men, alpha men and whatnot. In this case: Yes, don't do anything about it. What you are feeling is a female emotion. It's not how you should feel.

He should say to NASCAR-organizers: "Come on, unban her. She got a little bit emotional there, it happens to all of us. No biggie."

Post: #9

(09-05-2013 03:36 AM)muc Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:33 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  So just let women go around and slap men and do nothing about it?

You want to be real men, alpha men and whatnot. In this case: Yes, don't do anything about it. What you are feeling is a female emotion. It's not how you should feel.

He should say to NASCAR-organizers: "Come on, unban her. She got a little bit emotional there, it happens to all of us. No biggie."

Either women are equals legally or they are not. White knighting to protect women and excuse their behavior all while giving them equality has destroyed our society. No way would I allow it to continue when put in a position to at least help change the system to help protect men from women's violence.

Post: #10

(09-05-2013 03:39 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Either women are equals legally or they are not. White knighting to protect women and excuse their behavior all while giving them equality has destroyed our society. No way would I allow it to continue when put in a position to at least help change the system to help protect men from women's violence.

It's not white knighting. White knighting would be if Papis grabbed her and another guy stepped in saying "hey man, don't touch her".

It's about proportionality. Don't be a pussy, is all I am saying. Men being pussies is part of the reason why society is the way it is, too.

Post: #11

(09-05-2013 03:46 AM)muc Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:39 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Either women are equals legally or they are not. White knighting to protect women and excuse their behavior all while giving them equality has destroyed our society. No way would I allow it to continue when put in a position to at least help change the system to help protect men from women's violence.

It's not white knighting. White knighting would be if Papis grabbed her and another guy stepped in saying "hey man, don't touch her".

It's about proportionality. Don't be a pussy, is all I am saying. Men being pussies is part of the reason why society is the way it is, too.

You are white knighting by saying that men should just allow women to assault them and do nothing about it.

I agree that I would rather live in a system where this was handled without lawyers and laws and police. But women are the majority voters and this is what they wanted.

Standing up for myself legally, and knowing that if I did have a son here in the USA that he could legally protect himself is not "being a pussy". It is doing what men are supposed to do, protect their loved ones.

Post: #12

(09-05-2013 02:37 AM)muc Wrote:  

Ehm, that's stupid. She shouldn't be charged 2.5k for slapping nor be banned. FFS. Neither should any man, of course.
Why does everybody need to call authorities for every non-issue? heh.

Papis should lobby for having her un-banned and the fee dropped. In a perfect world that is.

But no. Nowadays we think like little bitches. "Boohoo. She hit me. I am happy she's banned!"

Come on.

Really.

You're right.

What he should have done is smack her right in her mouth.

However, that would have been career suicide. Sponsors would have dropped him overnight.

The other driver should keep his bitch in check. She's way out of line.

I wouldn't be lobbying to unban her anytime soon. She asked for it. Article didn't make it sound like he asked for this to happen, but since it did happen, well, tough shit. Her own doing. Live with it.

Post: #13

Back in the day, driver could of slapped her back and that would have been the end of it.

Well, news flash our current system doesn't allow that, so fuck the bitch she can take the fine and ban.

Post: #14

(09-05-2013 04:04 AM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Back in the day, driver could of slapped her back and that would have been the end of it.

Well, news flash our current system doesn't allow that, so fuck the bitch she can take the fine and ban.

Exactly. Women voted in this big brother govt. to destroy men, so use it back against them.

Post: #15

Alright, whatever.

But where I grew up, women are emotional beings, and men are not affected by their emotional outbursts that much - or at all. I sure as hell would not have lawyers earn money over bullshit situations like that. And who the fuck knows, maybe he even deserved that slap.

Post: #16

(09-05-2013 04:16 AM)muc Wrote:  Alright, whatever.

But where I grew up, women are emotional beings, and men are not affected by their emotional outbursts that much - or at all. I sure as hell would not have lawyers earn money over bullshit situations like that. And who the fuck knows, maybe he even deserved that slap.

Not sure where you are from. But in the USA men have almost no way to protect themselves. The laws prevent it. If this man even would have tried to scare her afterwards he could have been arrested. Much less slapped her back.

So the only way for men here to protect themselves is to use the giant police state and laws.

Post: #17

(09-05-2013 04:20 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Not sure where you are from. But in the USA men have almost no way to protect themselves. The laws prevent it. If this man even would have tried to scare her afterwards he could have been arrested. Much less slapped her back.

So the only way for men here to protect themselves is to use the giant police state and laws.

I'm German. (Certified Beta-Man country, according to RoK. ) Yeah it sucks, you are ruining your country with all that B.S. And probably my country will soon follow. Doesn't matter, I'll just emigrate to Russia and be happy.

Post: #18

He should have offered her a counter-slap so she didn't have to take the fine/ban.

I wonder what she would have chosen.

Post: #19

(09-05-2013 04:22 AM)muc Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 04:20 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Not sure where you are from. But in the USA men have almost no way to protect themselves. The laws prevent it. If this man even would have tried to scare her afterwards he could have been arrested. Much less slapped her back.

So the only way for men here to protect themselves is to use the giant police state and laws.

I'm German. (Certified Beta-Man country, according to RoK. ) Yeah it sucks, you are ruining your country with all that B.S. And probably my country will soon follow. Doesn't matter, I'll just emigrate to Russia and be happy.

The country was ruined long ago. Most men don't want this BS, but women are the majority of voters and get their way.

Post: #20

I can certainly see where muc is coming from.

They were on camera.
The right way to have handled this was to say that she's just a emotional little girl that have problems controlling herself and give her a pat on the head.

If she had kept it up after that then of course, go ahead and ream her legally.

Post: #21

The law had nothing to do with it.

She was banned from all NASCAR sanctioned events and fined by the sanctioning body.

I'd guess she had a crew pass as she is one of the drivers GF's and was in the pit area. Since those are issued by Nascar, they can revoke them and fines are regularly levied against teams, drivers and crew members for various incidents.

Post: #22

I can certainly see where muc is coming from.

They were on camera.
The right way to have handled this was to say that she's just a emotional little girl that have problems controlling herself and give her a pat on the head.

If she had kept it up after that then of course, go ahead and ream her legally.

Post: #23

(09-05-2013 04:16 AM)muc Wrote:  Alright, whatever.

But where I grew up, women are emotional beings, and men are not affected by their emotional outbursts that much - or at all. I sure as hell would not have lawyers earn money over bullshit situations like that. And who the fuck knows, maybe he even deserved that slap.

I didn't see anywhere in the article that the driver is spending money on lawyers to have this happen, or asked for it to happen, or is even endorsing the punishment.

I am reading that NASCAR fined and banned her. I see nothing about the driver pushing for it, so your argument is irrelevant.

You are trying to make him sound like a pussy for pressing charges or lawyering up, when I didn't read anywhere in that article about that actually happening.

Do you have a link to where you are seeing him getting lawyers and/or pressing charges? Or even asking NASCAR to do this?

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Post: #25

(09-05-2013 05:50 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  The law had nothing to do with it.

She was banned from all NASCAR sanctioned events and fined by the sanctioning body.

I'd guess she had a crew pass as she is one of the drivers GF's and was in the pit area. Since those are issued by Nascar, they can revoke them and fines are regularly levied against teams, drivers and crew members for various incidents.

Correct.

This is no different from there being a forum rule prohibiting women.

No one called the cops. NASCAR just decided they didn't want her trashy ass on their facilities.

What's the problem with that?