Post: #1

all my notches (10) so far have been from nightgame. the underlying frame is clear: this is a bar/club and i'm talking to you because i'm attracted to you. regardless of whether i open direct or indirect, in a short amount of time i will escalate things verbally and physically, and so if we don't smash on the same night, then i'll get your number and invite you out on a 1on1 date, which is a prelude to a smash.

however last night i tried something new. i went to a language meetup in my city. it is a mix of natives trying to learn new languages and foreigners trying to learn english. i went because there is also a pick up angle to it, though i don't yet know exactly how deep it goes.

i ended up talking to this black french girl who's here for 3 months to learn english. she was tall and thin. strong bbc genetics, like the kind of woman who'd give birth to olympians, lol. anyway, we had a decent chat. i came off cool and interesting and funny and so on, talking about life in the city, my job, my desire to learn spanish, etc. eventually i got the number, asking if she'd need an "english language buddy" or some shit like that. i teased her a bit on her first name (celine... celine dion) and we did that european-style kissing on the cheeks farewell and then i bounced.

now this is a completely indirect frame i'm starting out with. this shit is new to me. i don't know if there's any inkling of attraction at all. i mean, there may be, she could've come out that night to farm dick prospects, but then again for all i know i really am just a 'new friend' to her.

how does one get out of this indirect frame? what steps do you suggest in terms of texting/date set ups? please help me because i wanna bust all kinds of nuts up inside of her.

if i had to guess on my own, i'd say i should invite her early one evening to show her around the city and get coffee or something, and build attraction/comfort/whatever from scratch, and THEN go for the bar hop.

Post: #2

Just curious, how good is your french? That could definitely be a demonstration of higher value. Regardless, this is a pretty good angle(gaming women that are fresh off the boat).

You could go any number of ways with this as I see it. Just text her to meet up for drinks, meet up and as if you met her from a night game approach same as usual. Run game on her and bring her home and smash.

You could try to get her to come directly to your place and you can practice English together. You can move the language of the conversation to sexual topics and talk about different sexual positions and how to say them in French and English. Continue to escalate and then bang.

Post: #3

(08-22-2013 01:03 PM)bodmon Wrote:  now this is a completely indirect frame i'm starting out with. this shit is new to me. i don't know if there's any inkling of attraction at all. i mean, there may be, she could've come out that night to farm dick prospects, but then again for all i know i really am just a 'new friend' to her.

how does one get out of this indirect frame?

My take is that indirect should turn into direct asap. You go indirect only to break the ice and get to the hook point. Then you gradually switch to direct and the frame becomes man to woman.

It's like you're just talkative and social but not interested in her at first until she qualifies to you somehow so you're curious about HER and base your interest on that trait or something about her. Then you floor the gas. So the whole indirect phase has a purpose of moving things forward.

So do that at first so that she knows your intentions before inviting her somewhere.

"english language buddy", no offense but it's gay. Start getting interested in her because of something you like about her. Now you can't switch 180 to direct instantly. Just challenge and qualify a lot so that she knows you become more and more interested in her.

(08-22-2013 01:03 PM)bodmon Wrote:  what steps do you suggest in terms of texting/date set ups? please help me because i wanna bust all kinds of nuts up inside of her.

In your case you have to make that switch in face to face interaction. So when she's cool with that and you both part ways she knows now it's game on. Then text/call "hey let's meet this week I know this cool place let's go" and set up a proper one on one date and go from there. If you really hit it off with her then you can even send "hey! let's meet this week so I can take advantage of you already, xxx or yyy day, cool?". I don't know what's up with this taking advantage thing but it works really well for me.

Basically, no matter how friendly and gay you start you can always switch to interested based on her personality. After all, that's the whole point of qualifying and preventing LMR, to let her know you're "brain's been hijacked" because of who she is, not how she looks.

GOOD LUCK !!!

Post: #4

That's a great idea hitting the language course. Most of those people will be there for not a long time, and may be more willing to experience new things while they're visiting. It's also good because unlike in a bar or club they aren't expecting guys to Mack on them. That way they don't have their shields up like the USS Enterprise. Plus if you're into collecting flags, seems to me like a one-stop shop.