Post: #26

Lothario and Thomas the Rhymer, what specialties are you guys in? How long have you been in medicine? As someone who's applying to schools right now, it's nice to see that the career/schooling can be balanced with the lifestyle

Post: #27

(07-10-2013 05:23 PM)snoop Wrote:  

(07-10-2013 01:02 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  Nursing is a solid career choice for guys.

I work with a few male nurses which we refer to as Murses. Pretty cool cats. Its a stereotype that many of the dudes are gay. Most murses I have seen are pretty red pill and have got some decent game.

The pay is decent and gets better with overtime. I know an army murse that gets around 75k a year salary, with a 25k bonus every year.

I know many people in the medical field. Every single one has confirmed the fact that female nurses are aching for dick. Closet quickies are not rare from what I hear.

Ive worked with around 5 female nurses recently. All 5 were DTF. I was driving with one and she starting asking me personal questions within a few minutes of exhanging names. When did I lose my virginity? How many girls have I slept with? Is a one night stand slutty or ok for the female?

And in the medical field men normally hold the positions of power. These females nurses are used to taking orders from men and I assume feminism is rare in their ranks.

When I go back to school, I am seriously considering switching majors to nursing.

I hope not just b/c of women. That is a demanding job (wiping old men's asses, cleaning bed pans, getting bodily fluids like vomit on you, etc) to be doing if there aren't parts of it you truly enjoy.

If you really are interested go volunteer at a hospital first and see what kind of shit you have to do b/c many, if not most nurses have to earn their stripes in hospital or home care situations doing the worst work the other people don't want to do.

Good point. No one has brought up the literal shit work that being a nurse can sometimes be. Although their are different areas you can work in to avoid that. Most of the murses I have worked with were trauma nurses, so I don't believe they are out there wiping ass.

And it's not for the women. It's mainly for backup career opportunities. I love the job I have now, and I don't need a degree for it. I was getting a degree in business, such a general degree its not worth much (and I already run my own business, so theres not much that college can teach me about that).

This brings me to my next point: What does the market look like for expat nurses?

Post: #28

(07-10-2013 07:48 PM)Major Tom Wrote:  Lothario and Thomas the Rhymer, what specialties are you guys in? How long have you been in medicine? As someone who's applying to schools right now, it's nice to see that the career/schooling can be balanced with the lifestyle

Major Tom look for a PM from me .

Post: #29

I was very close to taking on a nursing degree a couple years back. Thinking maybe I should have as I've got no direction at the moment

Post: #30

I can't make this shit up. My downstairs neighbor went to the West Coast today for his grandma's funeral and upon my return back to base i noticed no lights on and the first thing came to mind was his live in girl friend is probably getting some doctor dicking. She's a blonde skinny nurse bunny which means nothing.

Post: #31

I was going to start a new thread then found that there was already this thread on nursing.

I have gotten into nursing school overseas and hence will be travelling overseas to Oz to do it. It is a big step up from being a warehouse laborer.

Is anyone on RVF a nurse ? Would love to here red pill insight on this field and also how safe/risky it is to have sex with nurses you work with .

I was wondering that since nursing is a fairly feminine job, I was wondering, Is this job a hindrance( mentally and status-wise) to a man who practices game on the side ?

Since nursing is mostly female dominated( which is very different from working in an all-male warehouse role) , is there a lot of feminism within the workplace of a nurse? If so, how do I "cover my ass", so to speak, from anti-male laws ? I understand that I am thinking too far into the future about his, but I want to be best prepared for my career.

Post: #32

(04-29-2014 04:50 PM)Lucario Wrote:  I was going to start a new thread then found that there was already this thread on nursing.

I have gotten into nursing school overseas and hence will be travelling overseas to Oz to do it. It is a big step up from being a warehouse laborer.

Is anyone on RVF a nurse ? Would love to here red pill insight on this field and also how safe/risky it is to have sex with nurses you work with .

I was wondering that since nursing is a fairly feminine job, I was wondering, Is this job a hindrance( mentally and status-wise) to a man who practices game on the side ?

Since nursing is mostly female dominated( which is very different from working in an all-male warehouse role) , is there a lot of feminism within the workplace of a nurse? If so, how do I "cover my ass", so to speak, from anti-male laws ? I understand that I am thinking too far into the future about his, but I want to be best prepared for my career.

Congrats man.

It should not be a hindrance - you can make it work for you status wise since it is unique.

There are some informative videos from male nurses on youtube.

I think in one of them, they talk about how male nurses are in demand in part for leadership roles.

Post: #33

I know most here are anti-marriage, but if it came down to it, would you marry a nurse?

I see some potential cons with regards to family life, like long hours, rotating shifts, and getting AMOGged by any hotshot doctors at the workplace.

Thoughts?

Post: #34

All the male nurses i've known have been hard-ass stand-up guy types. Former paramedics, ex-army rangers, etc.

Post: #35

(07-10-2013 01:59 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Architekt your questions can not be answered in one post, I will try to Simplify . Do it only if you love it and have passion for the field not for money. If money is your goal you better put your hours of hardwork else where.

yes , you can be a physician and still have life outside if you are living a life with minimal expenditure and have a lifestyle that fits what you make.

Just curious, but why do you say that go into medicine only if money is NOT important to you? Currently, there is mad bank to be made as an MD if you choose the right specalties. I really don't know of too many other sure things that allow a dude by his late 20's and early 30s to make $500k+ the way EM does, for example, while still giving plenty of flexibility and lifestile options. Or, alternately, be a spine surgeon and by your mid 30's be closing in on $1 million/year.

That is the current state. Is your warning about money in reference to where you foresee the medical field moving in the medium to long term?

Post: #36

(04-29-2014 09:10 PM)Sombro Wrote:  All the male nurses i've known have been hard-ass stand-up guy types. Former paramedics, ex-army rangers, etc.

I'm an RN and most of the guys that I know and are 2nd career ones came from the oilfield, welding, special forces etc.

Post: #37

(04-29-2014 04:50 PM)Lucario Wrote:  Is anyone on RVF a nurse ? Would love to here red pill insight on this field and also how safe/risky it is to have sex with nurses you work with .

I was wondering that since nursing is a fairly feminine job, I was wondering, Is this job a hindrance( mentally and status-wise) to a man who practices game on the side ?

Since nursing is mostly female dominated( which is very different from working in an all-male warehouse role) , is there a lot of feminism within the workplace of a nurse? If so, how do I "cover my ass", so to speak, from anti-male laws ? I understand that I am thinking too far into the future about his, but I want to be best prepared for my career.

I am a RN. It's just like anyplace you find a lot of women, their cliques and groups, gossipy and catty. When they ask me if it bothers me listening to their shit day after day I usually just tell them I used to manage strip clubs so there really isn't much difference. That usually stop that.

As far as sleeping with them goes, I've done it two ways, be a complete player or none at all. If they all know you're banging around the hospital then they don't care and many will even want to get a drink after work because they know you won't get all clingy etc. Or fuck none of them and don't worry about listening to their shit (that's what I'm mostly doing now).

As others said, yes nurses seem to be the easiest and are always talking about sex. I don't see too many Dr's that actually pull much for a variety of reasons.

Like any career, you will have days you love your job and days you wonder why you chose it. For the most part I like it. I write my own schedule and make good money.

What kind of anti-male laws are you referring to?

Post: #38

(04-29-2014 09:13 PM)rekruler Wrote:  

(07-10-2013 01:59 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Architekt your questions can not be answered in one post, I will try to Simplify . Do it only if you love it and have passion for the field not for money. If money is your goal you better put your hours of hardwork else where.

yes , you can be a physician and still have life outside if you are living a life with minimal expenditure and have a lifestyle that fits what you make.

Just curious, but why do you say that go into medicine only if money is NOT important to you? Currently, there is mad bank to be made as an MD if you choose the right specalties. I really don't know of too many other sure things that allow a dude by his late 20's and early 30s to make $500k+ the way EM does, for example, while still giving plenty of flexibility and lifestile options. Or, alternately, be a spine surgeon and by your mid 30's be closing in on $1 million/year.

That is the current state. Is your warning about money in reference to where you foresee the medical field moving in the medium to long term?

Not every med student can go into those fields. There are limited numbers of residency spots and the higher paying/ better lifestyle ones are extremely competitive to get into. I give props to the ones who do spines, that is something I would never wish on anyone, those surgeons are miserable because of the patients and workload.

Post: #39

I'll drop in my bit of advice as someone who HIRES/FIRES nurses, LVNs and RNs respectively.

If you're a male, don't go into nursing!

Your choices will be severely limited, especially if you go into home health or pediatrics. Most people will prefer a female nurse as they think every male nurse if a perv or possible rapist...I'm not kidding. It hurts every time I interview a male nurse as I don't have much work for him.

On the other hand, you can excel where women cannot. That is with higher acuity or heavy/violent patients. Taking that into consideration, you can ask for a higher pay rate due to the environment.

If you go into nursing, have a great work ethic and be dependable. The last two are traits that female nurses lack because they know they're more in demand. A male nurse who is dependable and has good skills with always have a job and make good money. I know an RN who is making 200K a year making his own schedule because 1- he knows his shit 2 - he's always up to the challenge, no matter how challenging it gets.

Post: #40

Post: #41

Question.

How do you spot Nurses during the day and at night? I've always been interested in nurses but they have so far evaded me.

Post: #42

Male nurses with MBAs also get fast tracked to management. No one wants female nurses running the show.

Post: #43

Thank you for the advise. I was always told to not go into female dominated workplaces by my red pill friends but Nursing looks good and fits well with my natural attitude to help people and interest in the human body .

(04-29-2014 11:09 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I'll drop in my bit of advice as someone who HIRES/FIRES nurses, LVNs and RNs respectively.

If you're a male, don't go into nursing!

Your choices will be severely limited, especially if you go into home health or pediatrics. Most people will prefer a female nurse as they think every male nurse if a perv or possible rapist...I'm not kidding. It hurts every time I interview a male nurse as I don't have much work for him.

On the other hand, you can excel where women cannot. That is with higher acuity or heavy/violent patients. Taking that into consideration, you can ask for a higher pay rate due to the environment.

If you go into nursing, have a great work ethic and be dependable. The last two are traits that female nurses lack because they know they're more in demand. A male nurse who is dependable and has good skills with always have a job and make good money. I know an RN who is making 200K a year making his own schedule because 1- he knows his shit 2 - he's always up to the challenge, no matter how challenging it gets.

Are there anyways of assuring the employer that I do not go by the "perv or possible rapist" male nurse stereotype ?

What are the best fields of nursing for a male to pursue fresh out of university ?

(04-29-2014 09:29 PM)scubadude Wrote:  I am a RN. It's just like anyplace you find a lot of women, their cliques and groups, gossipy and catty. When they ask me if it bothers me listening to their shit day after day I usually just tell them I used to manage strip clubs so there really isn't much difference. That usually stop that.

As far as sleeping with them goes, I've done it two ways, be a complete player or none at all. If they all know you're banging around the hospital then they don't care and many will even want to get a drink after work because they know you won't get all clingy etc. Or fuck none of them and don't worry about listening to their shit (that's what I'm mostly doing now).

As others said, yes nurses seem to be the easiest and are always talking about sex. I don't see too many Dr's that actually pull much for a variety of reasons.

Like any career, you will have days you love your job and days you wonder why you chose it. For the most part I like it. I write my own schedule and make good money.

What kind of anti-male laws are you referring to?

Is it possible to keep a low profile and still sleep with them ? I have never actually pulled in a workplace situation and would appreciate pointers on how to go about this.

By anti-male laws, I was referring to sexual harassment laws like false rape or false sexual assault accusations that women make against men in the workplace . The law assumes guilty until proven innocent. I was curious about the likely hood of such a thing occurring in the nursing workplace and how to avoid such a thing since it can cost one their career.

Post: #44

This is all I can think of while reading this thread:

Post: #45

(04-29-2014 09:37 PM)scubadude Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 09:13 PM)rekruler Wrote:  

(07-10-2013 01:59 PM)Lothario Wrote:  Architekt your questions can not be answered in one post, I will try to Simplify . Do it only if you love it and have passion for the field not for money. If money is your goal you better put your hours of hardwork else where.

yes , you can be a physician and still have life outside if you are living a life with minimal expenditure and have a lifestyle that fits what you make.

Just curious, but why do you say that go into medicine only if money is NOT important to you? Currently, there is mad bank to be made as an MD if you choose the right specalties. I really don't know of too many other sure things that allow a dude by his late 20's and early 30s to make $500k+ the way EM does, for example, while still giving plenty of flexibility and lifestile options. Or, alternately, be a spine surgeon and by your mid 30's be closing in on $1 million/year.

That is the current state. Is your warning about money in reference to where you foresee the medical field moving in the medium to long term?

Not every med student can go into those fields. There are limited numbers of residency spots and the higher paying/ better lifestyle ones are extremely competitive to get into. I give props to the ones who do spines, that is something I would never wish on anyone, those surgeons are miserable because of the patients and workload.

if "EM" means Emergency Med, those numbers sound way off too (at least double what they realistically make)

Post: #46

(04-30-2014 09:25 AM)The_CEO Wrote:  if "EM" means Emergency Med, those numbers sound way off too (at least double what they realistically make)

I do mean emergency medicine, and nope, it's not double what they realistically make. The average salary for EM certified docs is slighty above 300k at an average of 12 shifts/month. Go to a part of the country with higher than average pay (medical pay is highly location dependent) and work more than 12 shifts in a month and you can realistically earn $500k if you're not afraid of putting in the time. For a young dude just out of residency who still has stamina, it's more than realistic to be making mad bank in that specialty while still having plenty of "me time" due to the shift nature of the work.

Post: #47

(04-30-2014 09:09 AM)Lucario Wrote:  What are the best fields of nursing for a male to pursue fresh out of university ?

I think ER, the operating room, or the ICU would be the best options. If you have a few years under your belt in ICU , you're able to apply for a CRNA program (nurse anesthetist). I've worked in the operating room as a surgical technician for five years love it. The ER from what I've heard can be love it or hate it depending on your personality. If you like trauma and fast paced environments then an ER at a teaching facility would be a sweet gig.

I'm also surprised no one has mentioned travel nursing here. There are companies that offer travel assignments for a wide variety of medical fields, including nursing(in several departments), surgical technicians, radiology techs, etc. You get a tax free travel stipend, housing is paid for, or you can choose to find and pay for your own place and receive a tax free housing allowance and pocket the difference. I know a guy who owns a nice renovated trailer, travels solo, and rents a lot in an RV park and makes bank just on hype housing allowance. You have jobs available all over the country, and take 13 week assignments. Most companies prefer a year or two experience in your field however and won't hire a rookie fresh out of school. You're generally expected to hit the ground running once you arrive at a facility.

Post: #48

Good to see this thread. I'm knocking out my prereqs now in between overseas work trips (semester on, semester off) and will start nursing school next fall.

I'm going to go the military route; I was in the Army before but am looking to be an ER or CC RN in the Air Force.

I am curious how most male nurses in their mid/late thirties have fared in nursing as a second career? A good friend of mine here in the mountain West became a nurse at 38, he's now 43 and killing it as a flight nurse.

Post: #49

(04-30-2014 12:07 PM)rekruler Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 09:25 AM)The_CEO Wrote:  if "EM" means Emergency Med, those numbers sound way off too (at least double what they realistically make)

I do mean emergency medicine, and nope, it's not double what they realistically make. The average salary for EM certified docs is slighty above 300k at an average of 12 shifts/month. Go to a part of the country with higher than average pay (medical pay is highly location dependent) and work more than 12 shifts in a month and you can realistically earn $500k if you're not afraid of putting in the time. For a young dude just out of residency who still has stamina, it's more than realistic to be making mad bank in that specialty while still having plenty of "me time" due to the shift nature of the work.

My understanding is that the ER median salary is about 250-300 approx. and the top end is around 390.

Your explanation makes sense: competitive market + OT.

Post: #50

Female nurses are extremely catty and not efficient. I predict in one generation. The majority of nurses will be men.