Post: #1

I often get stuck with this, where she says she cannot meet on a certain day and does not propose alternative. I feel beta when asking her "well how about on tuesday" and if she cannot do it either "well how about wednesday"? .... see below the conversation i copied and pasted from facebook.

Background is that I got to know this girl on Thursday at a bar at the lake via friends. We all went on to another bar and she chose to walk with me and we had a good conversation about 15 minutes till we arrived. We all hang out there alot. she was talking to me but also to another guy. i asked her for her number/facebook as i liked her and she gave it to me. I then left the bar as i was hungry, it was late, i had to work next day and thought it would a) take a long time to get her into bed and b) she was around friends and i thought it was almost impossible that night and chances are better when meeting her alone.

Conversation started Thursday

11:35pm
ME
just finished eating! feel so much better haha

12:11am
HER
Hahaha am sooo hungry!!!! Not fair! Pity u had to leave soon but would love to meet up again some time
Friday

10:12am
ME
well if you and your "dirty and weird mind" were hungry, that you should have come with me
yes, lets meet. maybe sunday or monday evening?

11:46am
HER
hahaha you remember! Well you never invited me, remember? What did you guys have in mind for sunday/monday then?

1:13pm
ME
hahahah who said "us guys" ?
i was thinking about swimming in the evening sun in the nice & warm lake

1:54pm
HER
hahhahahah shit ok so this wasn't one of those "let's all hang-out-together" -type of invitations, was it? Sounds like a plan, I'll put it into consideration depending on the day. How was that for a diplomatic answer?

4:02pm
ME
diplomatic (so unsexy :-P) - but accaptable!!!
let's target sunday at 7pm at the lake. but let's text on sunday again ...
Today

SUNDAY 5:42pm
ME
Looks like I cannot make it today... How about tomorrow early evening?
Today

8:54pm
HER
Heyy we already went with friends and headin back home already so no worries. I cannot make it tomorrow unfortunately



How would you react? Just wait till she comes back?

Post: #2

Hmmmm so you cancelled plans initially correct? I wouldn't be surprised if a girl already had stuff planned for the following day. She seems pretty into you, and you got nothing to lose so definitely move forward. But how is the question of course.

Unfortunately she didn't give you a time which would work for her, which iwould have been a good indicator that she is interested. I would just go ahead and try and set up another time to meet within the next week.

Don't get too caught up in it. Good luck.

Post: #3

There's a lot of unknowns about this situation. How attractive/socially desirable is this girl?

All of the posted conversation is through facebook? Are you using fb messenger on your phone?

Give it a couple of days, text her on Tuesday early afternoon and just restart a conversation (hey [name]). Depending on how she responds "Let's meet sometime this week. Which day works for you?"

Post: #4

well, she is a 7 - quite attractive. she is an intern here (not in my company) and only here for 3months. she does not actually have that many friends. some. but when guys meet her, they are usually interested and talk to her, like that bastard in the cafe.

so i tried to play the "my time is precious and i don't have a lot. so i only offered her one chance". see how she reacted. i played cocky afterwards. i may give it another shot in a week from now as she did not propose another time again.

we only communicate via facebook but both of us use smartphones with facebook app.

ME
that's gay.
i can only do wednesday this week ...

5:17pm
HER
Hahaha ive promised to meet up with another friend on wednesday

5:23pm
ME
next time would be 2015 ...

Post: #5

Your text game is weak. Texting is for setting up dates not conversation, I would read what Roosh has to say on text game.

Her first response was about meeting you on Friday, your reply should have been "cool at 8pm".

Seems like she was into you but you talked your way out of her pussy.

I say put it on ice for now and hope you see her by the lake again.

Post: #6

My ANALysis in BOLD:

(07-07-2013 02:54 PM)Special1 Wrote:  11:35pm
ME
just finished eating! feel so much better haha

Topical, but not that interesting. Ok start

12:11am
HER
Hahaha am sooo hungry!!!! Not fair! Pity u had to leave soon but would love to meet up again some time
Friday

She's interested. Commence inviting her to something cool and setting up plans.

10:12am
ME
well if you and your "dirty and weird mind" were hungry, that you should have come with me
yes, lets meet. maybe sunday or monday evening?

I get that you're trying to flirt. It's not awful, but it's not that necessary. You want to make HER think that she missed out by describing how cool what you did was. Otherwise don't bring it up.

Saying "maybe" and giving her two options with a big question mark is no good. Just say, "Let's do X on Sunday or Monday." Questions are okay, but such weak wording is not.

11:46am
HER
hahaha you remember! Well you never invited me, remember? What did you guys have in mind for sunday/monday then?

Good response from her

1:13pm
ME
hahahah who said "us guys" ?
i was thinking about swimming in the evening sun in the nice & warm lake

Good response, cutting down the "group hang out" possibility. Okay on defining what you want to do, although I'd state it as "Let's" not "I was thinking."

1:54pm
HER
hahhahahah shit ok so this wasn't one of those "let's all hang-out-together" -type of invitations, was it? Sounds like a plan, I'll put it into consideration depending on the day. How was that for a diplomatic answer?

Definitely shit-testing with the "consideration" line.

4:02pm
ME
diplomatic (so unsexy :-P) - but accaptable!!!
let's target sunday at 7pm at the lake. but let's text on sunday again ...
Today

Target = near guarantee a girl will flake, especially without her giving a confirmation to the time/date. You further guarantee a flake by saying "but let's text on sunday again ..." which leaves you sounding even more wishy washy. Why would you commit to wishy washy with a new person?

SUNDAY 5:42pm
ME
Looks like I cannot make it today... How about tomorrow early evening?
Today

Okay, but I would've texted sooner as by Sunday evening she'll already have Monday plans very likely.

8:54pm
HER
Heyy we already went with friends and headin back home already so no worries. I cannot make it tomorrow unfortunately

She's lost interest heavily/completely.

ME
that's gay.
i can only do wednesday this week ...

Simply "gay" would've sufficed with radio silence

5:17pm
HER
Hahaha ive promised to meet up with another friend on wednesday

Even gayer.

5:23pm
ME
next time would be 2015 ...

Tryhard/butthurt response, not cocky. Better would've been radio silence, a dick picture, telling her to cancel with her friend or repeating "I can only do Wednesday this week."

Post: #7

She's not a "yes girl", as Krauser would call it. Much less after the awkward message exchanges. So it will be more complex than just suggesting a time for a random date and she comes along.

You have home court advantage. You're a local, you should be able to add value by offering her good plans and hookups.

During these 3 months in your city, what are the things she will definitely want to do?

What are the cool things in your city that she doesn't even know about unless you suggest it?

For the initial invitation, suggest a definite activity at a definite time. All the better if the activity is something alluring for her and it can't be rescheduled.

Then if she says "don't like X" or "not free on Y" then you still have somewhere to go.

At this stage she's gone cold. You will need to hook her up somehow and add value, or she won't come out. She's definitely not interested in a one-on-one date with you right now.

For the moment, reduce investment, no chat. If you're going to a cool group event, invite her along as an afterthought. "House party tonight with X friends. Interested?"

If she comes to a group event and doesn't warm up to you right away, just throw her to your social circle and let them take a shot.

Otherwise go silent for a couple of weeks and then throw out a one on one invitation. But make it a good one. It's a long shot, but with the time passing and the different stage of her menstrual cycle, it's not impossible.

Post: #8

She's probably on the girl version of RVF posting about this guy who's playing games. All up on her, sending dirty texts and then when it comes time to hit it, he flakes.

Bravo Sir, TABLES TURNED!...oh wait, you're trying to sleep with this chick?

Get her on the phone, cause this text battle shit where you're trying to pin her down in 140 characters or less will be the death of your game. Clearly you're not good at it.

WIA

Post: #9

Agree with most above. Your text game is not strong.

Best plan? Start hitting up other girls and let this one develop as it will without much more consideration.

Post: #10

Stop the "hahaha" shit and exclamation points. That gets gay real quick.

Post: #11

thanks guys. i tried to stop the "Gay shit" and the long messages and be more straight to the point.

background this time is i was at a party at the lake. saw a beautiful girl. approached her. and then something weird happened. her sister, who was with the hot chick and who was also hot, came to me and asked me if i am english. i said no german and she immediatley gave me a long dirty kiss. then she showed me her tounge piercing. she was really into me. she had to go because her hot sister was pregnant and needed to get home. i asked for her number, for her name and where she is from (=London). she gave it to me. she text me later she would like to kiss me again. i told her to add me on facebook. she did. next day i sent her the following on facebook:


10:50am Sunday
me
Hey! Hope you got home well last night! When do you fly back to london?

10:57am Sunday
her
Wednesday

1:43pm Sunday
me
Let's meet tuesday evening!

7:03pm Monday
me
hey, not sure if i can make it tomorrow. but i will be in london end of august ...

7:18pm Monday
her
That's fine


i would say she is not interested at all anymore. weird shit. i should just ignore her now, right? maybe i will text her before i fly to long end of august and see if she is wet agian ...

Post: #12

If you have her number and were already texting her why in the world did you Facebook her? Don't go backwards. You were supplicating and your messages were kind of long. No need for so many exclamation points on your end. You showed too much interest which for an attention whore like that is the death knell

Post: #13

(08-05-2013 03:15 PM)Special1 Wrote:  thanks guys. i tried to stop the "Gay shit" and the long messages and be more straight to the point.

background this time is i was at a party at the lake. saw a beautiful girl. approached her. and then something weird happened. her sister, who was with the hot chick and who was also hot, came to me and asked me if i am english. i said no german and she immediatley gave me a long dirty kiss. then she showed me her tounge piercing. she was really into me. she had to go because her hot sister was pregnant and needed to get home. i asked for her number, for her name and where she is from (=London). she gave it to me. she text me later she would like to kiss me again. i told her to add me on facebook. she did. next day i sent her the following on facebook:


10:50am Sunday
me
Hey! Hope you got home well last night! When do you fly back to london?

10:57am Sunday
her
Wednesday

1:43pm Sunday
me
Let's meet tuesday evening!

7:03pm Monday
me
hey, not sure if i can make it tomorrow. but i will be in london end of august ...

7:18pm Monday
her
That's fine


i would say she is not interested at all anymore. weird shit. i should just ignore her now, right? maybe i will text her before i fly to long end of august and see if she is wet agian ...

Why do you keep adding chicks on facebook? Roosh says there is no reason to do this as it gives up way too much information. You got the number that's all you need.

And relax on all of the exclamation points. Your messages come across as needy. Like you're ridiculously excited to talk to her. A simple "whats up" or "hey" or non sequitur message can work. I just used a non sequitur text on a chick and she couldn't stop messaging me. I just wrote, "That's ridiculous" then followed with some other nonsense and she kept laughing and responding right away even though I was being aloof and texting back when it was just convenient for me.

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